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  The interview didn't give me much confidence. I don't see this role working out the way Hilary did and while I respect her for wanting to try something new this just sounds so....blah.

Tonight's episode has been hilarious so far. Shannen was definitely the missing piece of the puzzle and I'm loving them trying to figure out who the stalker is.

Guza and Phelps put together a much more sleek and interesting show. Acting, production, dialogue etc were all consistently better. It was like three days into Frank and Ron's run and you had lighting fixtures accidentally being left in frame, the instant decline was sad to see.

6 hours ago, xtr said:

 

I thought Chloe was the best part of today's show. I have actually been enjoying her latest return. And I have been liking her scenes with Billy.

Ever since Chloe came back and shot Adam when JH was exiting she's been a nice adrenaline shot for the show at least for me. I haven't watched in a while but I scrolled through some of this weeks episodes just to see her (even been willing to suffer through Kevin's annoying ass).

10 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Does anyone else have the feeling that Kyle's secret was bigger than what aired and that CBS or Sony might have interfered?  Or is it just me?

I don't know, seems like the usual lack luster trash Griffith typically spews out to me.

I hope Angelica McD is somewhere seething and panicking over this flop ass wedding. No one cares about any of the Rosales and Kyle and Lola has been a bust since she revealed she was a virgin.

At first I didn't catch any shots but then I reread the go be an actor part 

I have no use for teeth grinder or Howarth as anything other than Todd Manning

Griffith is a master at writing stories so boring you don't even care enough to complain about. You just stop watching.

Yikes at the ratings drop,  I think they probably should have released all of the episodes at once so people could binge. I see someone leaked their salaries to The Hollywood Reporter too .  Only way I see this getting more episodes is if it sells well internationally off name recognition like all the other CBS produced brand reboots.

Ian did an interview saying they wanted 13 episodes and for the last one to be the actual 90210 reboot episode they spend all season making but the network only ordered six. Hopefully the finale is still that.

I did like the second episode and the soapiness of the potential stalker, setting Christine Elise up as the villain, Jason's wife pregnant by the head writer, and the Jason Jennie angst. Hopefully Shannen is in more of the epsiodes because we don't get nearly enough and I find the take on her character to be the most interesting next to Gabrielle (which has shocked the hell out of me because I only ever liked Andrea in season 1, Clare >>>>>>). I get Tori came up with the concept but she has way too much airtime for me. Her face comedy is only tolerable in small doses.

As for the CW reboot discussion, I actually liked the 90210 one best once they got rid of the OGs. They were never utilized properly and once they realized Naomi and Adrianna were the real stars, threw Shenae Grimes to the bushes and got a solid group dynamic I think the show found its footing nicely. I stopped paying attention when they went to college though. Melrose Place was a fail from the start, I don't know why they let those idiots from Smallville get their hands on it but they were horrible writers who admitted they never got the original. Katie Cassidy literally carried that whole thing on her back I'm sad she got forever stuck on The CW. They should have fired the writers when they initially wanted too instead of letting them try to reboot during the last half of the season 1 order, probably would have gotten the five seasons they wanted.

Hope a pink slip is in her future.

I kind of enjoyed it but I still agree this is such a waste of a great opportunity. Like @Chris B said shows like Big Little Lies are huge right now, people like seeing adult, sharp written soaps this could have been an easy win for everyone. They could have done all the things they're attempting to do here with an actual reboot. Tackle aging in Beverly Hills, bad finances, mid life crisis, death of friends, etc and people would have ate it the hell up. CBS just has never understood how to properly utilize this franchise. I expect the show will have this one season and be done.

I want Heather Locklear to get herself together and for Darren Star and the peak Melrose Place cast to give us the 90s reboot we deserve because I know they'd all actually be down to do it the right way.

This is epic to see, glad they used the best version of the theme song too and not the cheap version they've been playing in the ads

JT is clearly on his way out, they're not even being subtle by making Billy unhinged like they did GT's Phyllis just before the recast.

I'm really going to enjoy he and Tony's impending firings.

Josh has never written much for black characters so I'm not surprised Mattie & Charlie were done away with and Devon & Co pop up every two weeks to burn through most of their stories offscreen. I hope if/when Mishael gets back they get more material but if she's playing a doppleganger expect the same ole same ole. Mal's reign was the only time she was ever given the highlighting as a leading lady that she deserved, I doubt the good ole boy regime is going to want to showcase a black actress like that again regardless of popularity, probably the main reason she wouldn't be back as Hilary.

9 hours ago, dio said:

the more I'm seeing of Billy's SL on Y&R the more I think JT's the popular actor that isn't a fan of his current SL... male actor rarely ever want to play "crazy" and it seems like that's where this is going.

He probably realizes this is headed with him holding a pink slip and Miller back in the role playing the reformed and recovered fallout story.

Loving these numbers! 

I wonder if they will put Knots Landing up.

The fact that he's manged to survive this many regimes and even outlast Khalil is insane. Now that she's gone he's not going to be able to keep using the nutso Lane base as blackmail so he should tread a little more carefully.

I agree @Chris B Lily should absolutely be recast. I'd call Davetta Sherwood, get Michael Graziadei back on a recurring basis and try Lily and Daniel again. The twins should also still be on the canvas. Didn't care for Mattie but Charlie was growing into a decent young lead so them vanishing like they have right after Neil's funeral is ridiculous.

I'm watching Monday's episode, they are showing way too many flashbacks for her not to be returning soon.

5 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

i don’t care much about either actor returning in the coming weeks from the 2013 era. I didn’t hate them, but don’t see the reason to bring either back. But all day long I’ve read bit_ching about 2013, and to me that’s tiresome. 

I'm pretty sure you've been here long enough to know that the main thing we do around these parts is bitch. If you're tired of reading it pivot the discussion to something you do like about the show and I'm sure other people will chime in, but posts like your last two do nothing but keep the cycle going (I say this as a poster who's been in a similar boat through more than a few unpopular regimes).

The whole canvas has been reverted back to 2013 so I'd say yes. I'm interested in seeing if the ratings jump back up at all.

I knew it was only a matter of time before JG brought her back, she was one of the leading ladies his last run. I LOVE JC and JFP was stupid to get rid of her in favor of Condiment. She's probably the only pairing JM's had in recent years outside of Shick and Phick that was actually tolerable but they were still pretty damn lackluster.

Watched Monday and Tuesday's Phyllis scenes...biggest thing I miss about Gina is her unpredictability. You never could tell how she was going to play a scene so it always made her fun to watch (I know some people found her to be OTT with this but I loved it)

With MS you can predict every tic laden choice. You know when she's going to give you the fake gasp for air, the smirk, the awkward slimy walk up, etc. Its just all so run of the mill. So far she's not bringing anything to the table that makes this cast change worth it IMO. I agree that her scene with Summer was awkward but HK and Gina didn't really develop any chemistry till HK's last run so I'll give her a pass on that but yeah I wish Gina was still here.

I'd take JFP and Guza back in a heartbeat.

I think it'd be stupid to do the new role thing. There's a lot of drama to be mined out of Hilary being alive. They should have had Devon use her eggs to make another child  and had Elena be the surrogate so we could have had an extra layer of drama by the time she got back.