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I don't have any great desire to see to see Sela again either, but I've seen a lot of people like bummed out she hasn't popped up yet. I was just speculating since I've seen her basically say she's involved and they haven't shown any hint of what she could be doing. I wouldn't be surprised if she appears as Tasha somehow but I just can't help feeling they'll shove Sela in somehow. I'm also thrilled Crusher is finally getting the focus she deserves. She was also completely underutilised in the movies and it's never made any sense to me that she wasn't there when Picard needed help these past two series. I also saw people mention that that looks Thomas Dekker for a moment or two in the trailer. It might just be a coincidence but if not, that could be an interesting callback to Star Trek: Generations since he played Picard's son in that dream sequence. Forgot to mention it before, but the "We're All Gonna Die" from Riker got a good laugh out of me. As great as it will be to see Geordi's kids, I hope we also get another appearance from Riker and Deanna's daughter because I thought that actress was such a gem and a really good fit.

I figured Lore would be back since Brent Spiner was announced to be involved but my jaw dropped when I saw Moriarty. I haven't really been following the tea for this season but I don't think anyone had that on their radar. Really intrigued about what the plot line here is though. I wonder if this is some thing where Amanda Plummer's character sends various TNG villains after them or something in the vein. Crusher says they're being hunted. Isn't Denise Crosby involved in this season too somehow? I guess there's also the possibility that they activate Moriarty to try and defeat Lore since he was supposed to be the only one who could defeat Data. Also, I don't think we got a glimpse of her in the teaser, but I think it's sweet that Levar Burton's daughter is playing one of Geordi's daughters.

I mean, are we surprised about all that with Hasidic schools? I can't tell you how many former Hasidic Jews I've known in my life who made it to adulthood and basically knew nothing outside of the Talmud and could only speak Yiddish. It's bad. I attended Hebrew school growing up and every once in a while there'd be a former Hasidic kid whose family had left and again, they basically had no education or knowledge of anything. I don't want to disparage other Jewish people and how they chose to live and practice but I think we can all agree there are some severe issues with Hasidic Judaism that needs to be addressed.

There's always going to be negativity but the fact is they have almost 70% approval from the British people which is only slightly lower than Queen Elizabeth. If they count in the Commonwealth, their approval is probably even higher. A lot of that is some apathy or just general neutral feelings but the point is that they're not universally reviled. They're actually fairly popular as far as royals go. Again, I'm pretty left wing and so are most of my acquaintances and friends and I know like two people who have issues with William and Kate. If Charles and then William and Kate steer the monarchy and issues they're interested in where it seems they're going to, then their popularity will probably even slightly rise.

It'll never end, especially since it's basically just a ceremonial thing now as others have mentioned and they're the main source of tourism in the UK. There's a lot of apathy in from some people but still a lot of love from others or people that think it's a tradition and should stay (even if they don't deeply care). Plus, like BetterForgiven mentioned, the love is still there in the Commonwealth and very strong in some places. A few people here in Australia have brought up becoming a Republic the past few days and immediately gotten shot down by people yelling that we can never get rid of the monarchy. Americans, no offense, always say stuff like the love isn't there for Charles or William; meanwhile, I'm drowning in people praising and loving them and supporting them, even people on the far left. The way people have been acting the past few days has been eye opening in realising how much support they have if you look past sections of twitter and certain groups of people. It's hard for Americans to understand how ingrained some of this is in people and society. Anyway, not a royalist, but a lot of complicated feelings about this. My parents and my stepmother were all born under British colonial rule. All of my grandparents were saved by the British during the war, either by accepting them into colonies or by liberating the camps. But I can also recognise the pain and hurt the monarchy has caused Africans and other people of colour for generations. I saw that first end growing up in South Africa and going to visit Kenya a lot. No one is obligated to mourn, but I do think there's a nuance in these conversation that's missing and that you can't get from the surface level discussion you get on twitter and that again, no offense, is filled with people who have never lived or been a part of any of this. However, no part what side you fall on, I do think she was devoted to her country and gave her entire life for public service. It was a life of consequence and we'll definitely not see the likes of that again. Also, mostly hoping for them to finally kick Andrew to the curb.

I don't watch GH anymore, but how on earth are they going to make Dominique having a son with Mac work? That's a huge retcon. They met onscreen and I don't think she was offscreen till she died. And why would she hide a son from Mac?

I think we rehashed the whole Fluke thing just earlier this year in this same thread, but yeah, that was clearly Bill Eckert before Ron got mad people figured it out and then the medical delays from Tony Geary. That was all around the same time they had Luke saying stuff only Bill would have said, as Vee mentioned, and were randomly bringing up the old Eckert house, Jenny, and Julia out of nowhere for probably the first time in a decade. Luke having DID was horrible and I think a poor story choice, but we won't get into all that. My personal feelings are that they still should have just gone ahead with it being Bill and whatever they had planned in regards to Julia and whoever. Who cares if the audience already had an idea, especially when it was so obvious onscreen. @carolineg Connie's DID was really one of the worst things I've seen on GH. Bad all around.

This is at least the fourth or fifth time Kin and Jackie have both tweeted like that and they never leave. I'm not saying there's no something up but just saying that they're both overly dramatic on twitter. Kin especially tweets some variant of that tweet every few months.

He did a really terrific job, especially considering how removed he’s been from the show. I don’t think he’s done anything with Neighbours since he left and he fit right back in. I know people like Guy Pearce and Kylie Minogue have done a lot of the reunions over the years but I don’t think he’s done any of those. I totally agree. It’s remarkable what they pulled off with such a relatively short amount of time. I also think they deserve heaps of credit for getting back a lot of people not just for the finale but for appearances over the past two or three years. Having people like Clive, Jane, Melanie, etc (along with of course Karl, Susan, Paul, and Toadie) be around the past year for the final stretch was a real win for the show as it headed into the finale. It gave them a lot of ways to realisticly bring back in people without it seemingly just like a parade of cameos. I think that really helped the finale have a lot of heart and mean something.

Yeah, and Paul, Jane, Mike, and Harold seemed shocked to see them and they didn't interact with Melanie or Lucy, so I suppose it was definitely Shane who invited them for whatever reason. I'm glad they didn't move back either. I think Mike moving back was enough, especially since we don't really know if Izzy and Shane stayed. I try to avoid the Daily Mail so I missed it was going viral. She's extremely bitter. It's sad to see. I'm glad they went with Izzy too. She's the better character, she works better with the whole street, and irl, she's a much more pleasant person. I've been completely over Sarah the last two times she popped up so I'm glad they didn't go there again. I don't know how they could have even worked her back in in a way that felt natural. Izzy having a daughter with Karl and other ties on the street makes her popping up as a thorn in everyone's side much more organic story wise. I saw that also. Given him and Craig McLachlan's personal problems, it's obvious why they weren't included. I guess that's not stopping them from ranting in the press though. I do wonder who all asked and the show turned down and who the show tried to get back and couldn't. Something that I saw pointed out somewhere else- when Izzy is looking through the Ramsay street history book, you could see other letters from past Ramsay Street residents that weren't in the finale. I know someone said that they were pausing and looking at each page and that one of the letters was from Beverly (Paul's former stepmother) mentioning that she still missed her nephew Todd. Todd's death was one of the big Neighbours events I remember as a kid so I thought that was a nice touch. Loved all the photos they had in there also.

I thought they were there because Shane had rung them up and told them he bought the old house and they decided to come down and see it lol. They never really explained why though so I guess we’re just supposed to assume. It definitely tied into Shane though since he had that line telling Jane and Mike that he had told some old friends of theirs to wait at the house for them. I do agree that it worked nicely to have them all in their little worlds and groups and then we see them all together as it ends. I’m sure it hasn’t made the news outside of here in Australia, but Nicola Charles and Craig McLachlan have been whining in the press about “cancel culture” keeping them out of the finale. Nicola Charles’ whining is especially funny since she claims it’s because she’s anti-vax and her political views. Considering there was at least one person in that finale who isn’t vaccinated and another with similar political views to hers, I imagine it’s just that they didn’t want her there lol.

This is good news for the Dems right? They were covering the US election on the news here and said that the Democrats have basically regained all the momentum, at least on the Senate front. It seems wild that the odds are stacked against them but they're still polling that well, especially since apparently most of these polls don't take into account the abortion issue from the past few weeks it seems.

Yeah, we only got the first one after the fact in Australia and unless I completely missed it, we never even got the second series. Days is fairly popular here so that’s always been slightly worrying and confusing to me.

I imagine this means it's done internationally soon enough.

@DRW50 Oh I watch more often than not these days too and think the show is in pretty good shape. As pointed out in the other thread, they've really basically abandoned the history the past decade or so (outside of Alf's family) whereas Neighbours had really circled back to the history in recent times. Once Sally was gone, the appearances from people like Pippa and Sally's siblings stopped and that whole side of the show faded away. Neighbours really had a lot of older characters back towards the end and active connections that allowed them to bring back characters like Scott, Charlene, Mike, Shane, Izzy, etc. Home & Away is basically down to Alf, Irene, Marilyn, and I guess Roo and Leah and they haven't done the best job of keeping the connections to past characters active. I guess that comes down to Neighbours having a lot of families whereas Home & Away doesn't. All those connections on Neighbours allowed for such an emotional episode and I'm just not share Home & Away could reach that again outside of the few people mentioned. I'm sure they'd go for people like Sally, Pippa, Don, Colleen, Ailsa, Bobby, and even people like Hayley, Brax, Gypsy, etc though when it ends. The people that would really serve a nostalgic punch, like you said, would be so far removed from the current show outside of Alf, Irene, and Marilyn that it would be kind of jarring even if done nice. The show that Ailsa, Don, and Sally existed just feels so far removed from the current show, at least to me.

Oh it was defo Joel that got Amy pregnant I think. I just meant that Lance said in his message that he never got to marry Amy but there was still time and raised his eyebrows and they cut to Amy smiling. It was like a reverse of the 20th when Amy appeared in the montage and said for Lance to give her a ring and they cut to Lance in the audience reacting. I would have loved if they had had them finally get together instead of doing another thing of them just hinting at each other, but the moment was cute either way.

I forgot to mention it before, but I'm so glad they gave Susan the last real lines of the show (not counting the chatter when Harold and Paul ran up on Scott and Charlene) and ended on her and Karl. I was slightly worried they would give that honour to either Jason Donovan or Kylie, and that would have been fine, but I'm glad it went to Susan who really has been the constant all these years. I also thought ending on the Scott/Charlene/Harold/Paul group, over to Jane and Mike, then to Melanie and Toadie, and finally on Karl and Susan was the right way to end it. It just felt right that all of them were the last ones we saw. I've seen and heard a lot that if/when Home & Away ends, they'll have a hard time touching this. I agree with that. Not to turn this is into a H&A discussion, but I don't even know who they could bring back that would get this much of an emotional response outside of Sally or ghost visits from Ailsa and Bobby. Bringing back Chris Hemsworth and the likes of Bec Hewitt and Steve Peacocke just wouldn't have the same feelings that Neighbours got out of all their returns. It just shows I think how uniquely special Neighbours and those characters were.

Another life long Neighbours watcher and fan here. I've gone in and out of watching it the past ten or so years, but started catching up when I knew it was ending. I loved the final weeks. I'm glad it went out with a dignified end and in a way that I think pleased everyone pretty much. Started tearing up during the video messages to Mel and Toadie and was full on in tears by the time Susan imagined Madge, Sonya, Hendrix, and Doug at the party. Just a lovely, classy ending. Also, good on Guy Pearce for so game with his appearance. He was great. As for stories and characters, I was a child the last time Jane and Mike were a couple but I'm thrilled they got together in the end. Even with only an hour, they really sold the love story. They were better to me than Scott and Charlene (not that I didn't like finally getting to see them back). I've always loved both Melanie and Izzy and I'm glad they both ended in a good space. Loved seeing Nina, Lance (should have brought him back in person for Amy instead of just having them hint at it), Billy, Joe, and everyone else in the messages. I know both of them have some troubling views now IRL, but I always loved Flick and Steph too so I'm glad differences could be set aside to get them both there as well. Beth's shoutout to Ned was lovely. A little surprised they couldn't get Jane Hall (Rebecca) and the woman who played Ruth back, especially since Phil was there and I assume he's still married to Ruth. I would have liked to have seen both of them one last time. But other than that, I think it was a terrific and heartfelt finale.

How could I forget! I don't know how any of them kept a straight face. This and Luke and Felicia's singing at the Nurses Ball one year are truly the nadirs of my GH viewing. Few things reach the depths of those two moments.

That early 90s era of GH always had people doing cheesy pop singing, even before the Ned days. I don't remember the specifics off the top of my head, but I have memories of various people singing at the Outback way before Ned and Miguel. It was always horrible and cheesy lol.

I've seen clips and it did seem nice. I do wonder what they'll do for the 60th next year since it's probably the last big one, unless they make it to the 70th by some miracle. Most of the vets they brought back for the 50th ended up staying but I assume they'll at least try to get Robin, Brenda, Lesley, and Tracy back. For non-GH shows, I remember really enjoying whichever anniversary it was on AMC where they brought back literally all the big past characters and they had a party at the Martin house. Also, for as horrible AMC was in it's last decade, the memorials they did for Phoebe, Palmer, and Myrtle were very nice from what I remember, as well as the 40th anniversary episodes.

GH can usually pull it together to do a good anniversary or tribute show. The 10,000th episode isn't anything great, but I remember the 30th anniversary episode being good. I haven't watched the Sean tribute episode; however I thought the Lee and Gail ones were nice for what they were. I don't think the Gail one should have been tied to the anniversary but besides that, I thought it was nice. You see people complain about not enough guests coming back for the memorials but I don't know what more they could have done for Lee and Gail when all those characters are gone. It was nice they brought Serena back for the Lee one. Again, I haven't watched it, but the Sean episode was missing just Frisco, no? And that's not really a situation the show can do anything about when JW doesn't want to be there. As for older memorial episodes, the Mary Mae one was very well done from what I remember. The whole 50th celebration was really a good era for GH. The Sabrina stuff was a bit much but other than that, I think that was a good time for the show and they pulled off some great episodes around then. The Nurses Ball has always gotten a bit silly (both in the 90s and in recent times), but I remembering think that first one or two they did when they brought back were excellent.

That whole teen to 30s scene- outside of Trina, Spencer, and Brooklynn- is a dud to me and I'd get rid of or recast all of them. That includes Maxie and Michael, both of whom need LONG breaks. I'd bring Michael back as a recast in a few months but Maxie needs a years long break. That she has three kids and two dead baby daddies is obscene. Like it's been mentioned, there's heaps of untapped potential out there that the audience knows about and would accept and they do nothing with any of it. It's been so long I wouldn't mind them trying another around of Liz's brother even. Sarah I think is basically a lost cause at this point, but I think they could do something with Steve.

I'd rid of all of them in a heartbeat if I was in charge. Willow and Sasha are interchangeable from what I could tell. There's got to be some 20 or 30 something year old girl out there in GH history they could bring on to date Michael that's not one of these two duds. Chase is fine I guess but there's no reason for him to be getting so much story while Lucky and Dillon are MIA.

I don't have any desire to see Jenny Eckert again, but I do think both Julia and Sly could add something to the show and still be viable these days. Like you said, there's the business angle, along with everything involving Sonny and Brenda (even though she's offscreen). Besides those two, she has relationships with Ned and Scott. I think last we heard she was friends with or friendly with Lucy. She knows Mac, Felicia, and I think Anna and Robert. There's some stuff they could work with. Like Vee mentioned, she always fit right in when she popped in during the Guza days so it's a shame they never circled back to her. Sly could easily be filling any of these nobody guy roles they have on the show- Roger Howarth's character, Chase, Brando, etc. I think he'd be a better love interest for Liz and Maxie than the ones they have too. For whatever reason, GH has a lot of characters that are basically gold mines with family ties or connections just sitting offscreen. There's heaps of untapped potential in a lot of those characters but they'd rather focus on Willow, Sasha, Brando, Roger Howarth's latest role, Harmony, whoever. It's baffling.