NothinButAttitude

That's the whole reason why DTC even did the plot--so he could be the one who did it before he left. What he failed to see is that it further proved to the audience how much of a hack he is. How he thought it was OK to greenlight that paternity reveal--the biggest secret in UK soap history is mind boggling. IMO, Mark's reveal should've consisted of Peggy and should've never happened if Ross Kemp was gonna take a hiatus during the arc. At the end of the arc, Mark & Grant should've grown closer, and Mark should've left w/ Grant & Courtney to become better acquainted with them. I could not believe the ending we got with Grant not wanting to have anything to do with his child. Not after we all saw how he fought so adamantly against Tiffany for Courtney decades earlier. It was abysmal (too) to see Mark flirt with his baby sister and act like it was OK. SOC is gonna have to do some serious overhaul to Michelle's clan to fix them if he is gonna bring them back. That's what he might wanna focus on instead of Michelle's secret.

Well I just hope that if they are both brought back that their fixed b/c they've screwed up both of Michelle's kids.

It still bothers me that Vicky nor Mark had American accents when they grew up in America. It isn't that hard to find out of work American actors that'd be thrilled to occupy these roles.

Last night's episode was OK. I wasn't that much impressed. It was just a lot going on that made me roll my eyes throughout the entire telecast. - Phil miraculously getting a liver on Christmas is bullsh-t. I hope his body rejects it and his ass dies. If anything, TPTB ought to realize from this last year that Phil is also at the end of the road. They should send his ass to the great beyond with Roxy & Ronnie too. There's nothing more he can offer. Free Sharon and Ben of his grip. - Martin & Stacey were cute, but I still feel that Martin loves Stacey more than she loves him. With Max being back, I'm sure I'll feel this way even more. - Dot's scenes were tragic. If they had Michelle do anything, she should've at least popped over and visited Dot, Pauline's dear friend. - I'm not the least bit interested in what Michelle's secret is. After Mark's paternity, Michelle shouldn't have anything else to conceal. Why must soap characters return with secrets? Why can't Michelle simply just came home b/c she felt it was time? I bet this 'secret' pans out to be something stupid. - So is this is how Lee is being written off? That he'll be going to prison? If so, it is better than them killing him off and us watching Mick and Linda mope around be victims for all eternity. Speaking of the Carters, can we get them out of The Vic? They just don't fit mold of being the family occupying The Vic. Sharon and Denny need to be back in there with Michelle now that she's returned. I'm sure Mark & Vicky's returns aren't long from now either. Let them all live there.

@DRW50 I know you're excited that Max returned last night.

At least they recast her with a critically acclaimed actress with a strong theatre background. O'Connor actually tried and I give him props for that. Could you imagine DTC trying to recast Michelle? He'd cast a weak actress who would've disappointed. I'd be interested to see what you felt about Phil, but I am over Denise's baby story too. I feel like no regime even tries with her when she has all the story in the world via Libby, Chelsea, and Jordan. Bring her damn kids back full-time! Everyone else's brats are back on the Square but hers. It's annoying.

No! Why would you wanna kill Quint?! Nola still could've had stories outside of him, Quint could've still assisted Nola in various capers surrounding her journalistic career, which we all know she would've involved in. I do think that a Nola/Fletcher/Quint triangle would've been hot and interesting to see how Maureen would've reacted as she had a soft spot for him in later years. I seriously think that Quint should've been transitioned into an educator, who struggled with the steadiness, restrictions, and bureaucracy of education versus being an ex-archeologist. A restless Quint could've caused tension between he and Nola, which led to him being written off for a few years had Nola chose to stick around.

@DRW50, what is your thoughts on nuMichelle?

She is Conservative nut now.

Honey, the Stacey Dash avi ought to tell you that he's here to troll. I just ignore his post TBH.

Well I hope she and Andy get a happy ending. I hope this doesn't mean that the writing is on the wall with Luke either.

No!!! Why are they getting rid of Steph?! http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/feature/a130011/eastenders-coronation-street-emmerdale-hollyoaks-whos-leaving-returning-joining/

I would say it is. All b/c Trump Satan is taking his place on this throne.

Yes. Sorry. Oops. So scatterbrained today that I cannot even think straight.

Unless Phil dies, I wouldn't've cared. If you've seen one Phil bedside scene, you've seen 'em all. I'm sick of the Mitchells to be honest (minus Ben).

True. But you know the GOP and Trump are gonna pick a side even though us not getting involved would possibly be the smartest thing. This is how WW2 started. This is Franz Ferdinand all over again.

This Turkish shooting is gonna lead to something major. I wonder what side of history Trump will have America on...

They renamed Denise's mother? Why? So stupid. I've been at arms length with EE as of late. I'll probably slide back into watching it some time this week. I do wanna see Roxy and Ronnie's asses depart on New Years. Now that you've pointed it out, now would be the proper time to recast Michelle as DTC would've had Michelle doing stupid sh-t. I still get pissed how they told that abysmal story and reveal of Mark Jr. that went nowhere. I hate how they stripped him of any history and made him some English chap when it was always stated that Mark was raised stateside. Just so many flubs in that stupid ass story.

They might as well recast Michelle. They should've done it when Grant was around and Mark Jr. was on the show b/c her presence was greatly missed and the story flopped like a f-cking fish. Glad that Denise's mom might be coming now. Now if they'd only bring back Jordan and Chelsea...

So tragic that this monster is about to become leader of the free world. Ugh...

Question--did the show ever hint where Madison was located?

Exactly. If Eileen were secure, she wouldn't've made a whole damn beef with LVP over asking how she and Vince met. She would've simply answered the question or shut it down and moved on.