Everything posted by Paul Raven
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
thanks for that. So plenty of sets to come, which is great. I wonder how many of those sets are permanently set up and what sort of flexibility they have in using the sets. Also, there must be room and provision for one off sets like Bill's hotel room and the room where Vanessa was preparing for the wedding. Maybe those sort of sets will be repurposed in the future.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Maybe a bit of both. I don't think at that point Pickering could choose to leave as he would have been on a 3 yr contract. More likely was that he wasn't working out in the role-maybe he was unhappy in daytime and producers agreed it wasn't working and hence a recast. They lucked out with Hulswit and Stewart. So within a year there were 2 new Bauers fighting over Miss Leslie.
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
At least Ashley's apartment is supposed to be mid range rental whereas Bill/Hayley's is supposed to be high end luxury. Thinking about the various occupations of characters and how it fits into the storytelling. I assume Vernon/Anita are retired and living off investments so they are able to be at home mostly. We've seen that Nicole works from home? Is she going to be shown at work with clients? Ted has an office at the hospital,right? Bill's office has been shown and Hayley and the Tomas work there. Dani is a momager and her daughter a model so they can be at home or on shoots. Ashley is at the hospital and Derek is supporting so doesn't need to be seen at work. Andre a photographer. Was that his studio where Dani/Andre got it on? Naomi is a lawyer and her husband a cop but we've yet to see them at work. What about Martin? He should have an office and staff. Does Kat have a job?
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Ratings from the 80's
Why not just got to Jason's page and click on pre-emptions?
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R.I.P.: AMC, ATWT and ABC Daytime EP Felicia Minei Behr Passes Away
Felicia also brought on Gillian Spencer as ghost Jennifer and began the story of Kim's heart issues but for whatever reason it was dropped. We don't know what BTS stuff affects what makes it to air.
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R.I.P.: AMC, ATWT and ABC Daytime EP Felicia Minei Behr Passes Away
Wasn't Felicia also at RH at one point?
- BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
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R.I.P.: AMC, ATWT and ABC Daytime EP Felicia Minei Behr Passes Away
Was it under FMB that a lot of the focus was in Georgia/Eddie/Alec- brand new characters that had no connection to the canvas? With such a rich history to dig into, that was the time to bring back Frannie or Christina Hughes or the Ward quads and really shore up the canvas. Seems such a no-brainer but for some reason TPTB want to alienate the audience.
- Y&R: February 2025 Episode Rankings
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
That's exactly what I was getting at. At least if Ashley had had a previous convo with the woman and we found out this was the first pregnancy she'd taken to term or something... Unless Andre is a total p***y hound can't understand what he would see in a dowdy nurse. Sorry Jen/Ashley! Are they really taping 6 eps aweek? Guess the plan is to take a break every few months to make the budget work and give everyone a much needed rest. Wonder if Danni will be on every day this week? Not a fan of Cady's look, what's with the braid?
- Y&R: March 2025 Discussion Thread
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
With all this discussion on characters and stories I have to remind myself that we are only one week in. There many days/weeks/months ahead for things to develop. Relationships to be explored and characters to have scenes together. eg seeing Smitty at the Dupree house -how does he interact with the family etc? If that twin thing was mentioned, that was poor planning. How much better for the story to gather momentum and then drop a mention that Ted is a twin. Agree about the men's haircuts and Bill/Vanessa's house -way too generic and cheap looking. And the baby in the elevator-not the best choice to interest in a character many are already bored with. Maybe if we had seen that woman before interacting with Ashley and she was given some sort of backstory there might be more of a care factor.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I think the wholesale cast changes were the result of a few factors. The belief that faithful viewers would stick by the show no matter what (usually an older, less desirable demographic). A misguided belief that a bunch of new young characters in more plot driven stories would attract new younger viewers. Well a chunk of long term viewers did stick with GL but I would wager a number gave up when their favorites disappeared one by one. Some new viewers enjoyed the goings on but perhaps weren't as faithful as the old guard. If you enjoyed Tony and Annabelle for example, they were done and dusted in a couple of years. Beth and Phillip, Rick and Mindy, Reva and Josh, Quint and Nola were also split up or moved on. Shorter storylines meant less engagement.
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
So far in terms of location shooting we have seen The opening sequence when Nicole drove up to the Country Club The car crash sequence Naomi and Chelsea in the park Bill and Naomi in the park Is 'the park' part of the studio lot? Hopefully they will keep up with location shoots sprinkled through each week. Adds some variety and realism.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
By Mid 85 the transformation of GL under Kobe/Long was complete. The departure of Trish and Katie meant the last of any characters from previous regimes onscreen had been pretty much completed. Only Ed (recast) Ross, Maureen and Vanessa remained as main characters. I don't count Phillip or Rick as they had been children in the past. In two years to have pretty much decimated the cast was no small accomplishment.
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread
Mixed feelings about the cliffhanger. If it's a fantasy that would leave a sour taste but if not, what will be the fallout? If it's all brushed aside then BTG is already leaning into the trope that has destroyed other soaps of letting criminal/psycho acts be brushed aside. Dani would be arrested and need professional help after pulling a stunt like that.
- BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread
Bill is a big unit- Hayley gotta look up. From the writing and the actress' performance I am not getting what Bill finds so special about Hayley that he finally ditched his marriage . He told his daughter 'I fell in love' but I'm not feeling it. Hayley's glitter top and sprayed on pants were giving me Y&R fashion vibes. YUCK I agree,having characters baldly declare how incredible someone is, that they see everyday was annoying. And too many factoids dropped in eg Jacob's dad is police chief made the dialogue clunky. Wk 2 awaits.
- BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
As the 84/75 season progressed the A Team held strong but WTB was growing. eg by April 85 A Team was #16 WTB was #27 and 3s A Crowd was #36 Wk ending May 5 A Team was back to #10 but WTB was up to #16 3s A Crowd was #36 so WTB was on fire. Interestingly when ABC announced their fall line up Diff'rent Strokes scheduled for 8pm Tues He's The Mayor 8.30 WTB Tues 9pm and Growing Pains 9.30 Changing the Tues lineup worked for ABC. In the new season WTB/Pains/Moonlighting beat A Team/Riptide from the get go.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Tuesday was an interesting night from a scheduling point of view ABC dominated for years with the comedy block but let those shows age with no refreshing. The hit shows they introduced in protected slots eg Taxi, Too Close for Comfort and 9 to 5 were moved elsewhere. NBC by design or luck launched the A Team when ABC was fading and NBC immediately had 8pm in the bag. Still#3 they didn't have much else to offer, Bare Essence couldn't capitalize on A Team's ratings and Remington Steele did slightly better. Next season NBC placed Riptide @9 which complemented A Team and sent 3's Company out of the Top 10. ABC could only offer Just Our Luck which flopped @8. It looked like NBC had a stranglehold on Tues, especially when ABC scheduled Paper Dolls. But ABC saw A Team was fading and moved Who's The Boss which boosted the night-then Growing Pains and Moonlighting. A team fell to #30 and Riptide even further. ABC was back, but NBC weren't finished yet ...Matlock and In The Heat of the Night to come...
- BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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DAYS: February 2025 Discussion Thread
I think Ron and Jamey's 'love' for soaps comes from watching in the 80's and thinking that soaps are all about shocking twists involving evil twins, split personalities, brainwashing/amnesia and various other done to death stories that can keep things popping rather than well written characters whose motivations and actions keep things moving. Not interested or caring much about how these shows came to be or what kept viewers tuning in. Before Leah Laiman and James Reilly, Bill Bell and Pat Falken Smith wrote Days for years and established those shows and I doubt Ron and Jamey would know much about them.