Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
CBS had trouble initially finding a compatible 8.30 sitcom to AITF. Funny Face with Sandy Duncan finished #8 but lost a lot of the lead in. Her show was revamped and moved to Sun the following season. Bridget Loves Bernie was next and again did well #5 but was dropped due to controversy over the theme (odd considering that AITF thrived on controversy) For 73 they went with MASH which proved to be a winner and established itself as ahit and critical success. But CBS moved it and replaced it with Paul Sand which again, lost too much of the AITF lead in and had mixed reviews. So mid season CBS went with The Jeffersons. That was one of the few spinoffs that aired following the original show. As of Feb. 3, Norman Lear's The Jeffersons (CBS, Saturday, 8:30 -9 p.m.) looked like the only certifiable hit among the networks' batch of second season shows. It got a 28.5 rating and 45 share on Feb. 1, making it the fifth highest rated show of the week. CBS's Tony Orlando and Dawn (Wednesday, 8 -9 p.m.), after a number of sub survival ratings weeks, chalked up a 21.6 rating and 32 share on Jan. 29, on top of a solid 33 share on Jan. 22. Norman Lear's controversial The Hot l Baltimore (ABC, Friday, 9 -9:30 p.m.) also had its second good week in a row with a 19.4 rating and 31 share on Jan. 31. The only successful second season transplant so far is ABC's The Six Million Dollar Man, which hit a 20.6 rating and 31 share in its new Sunday time period (7:30 -8:30 p.m.) on Feb 2. NBC's new private eye series Archer with Brian Keith, out of Paramount (Thursday, 8 -9 p.m.), got off to an unpromising start on Jan. 30, with a 17.6 rating and 27 share. Two other new second season shows - The Mac Davis Show (NBC) and Baretta (ABC)- continued marginal in the ratings. The second -season shows (either new or shifted from other time periods) that, based on the Nielsens, look like sure losers are: Karen, Barney Miller, Kolchak and The Odd Couple.
- Y&R: January 2025 Discussion Thread
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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NBC Daytime
NBC had an hour slot to fill so a 1 hr soap seemed inevitable. Half hour shows were out of fashion at that point. CBS and ABC persisted because they had that slot to fill. And a I hr show was cheaper to produce than 2 half hours. And in daytime ,profit was a major motivator. NBC squandered TD and SFT, both legacy shows that had years left in them but were systematically destroyed.
- GH: January 2025 Discussion Thread
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
Sitcoms 8 of the Top 10. CBS had 6 of them. Good Times indeed! And they had Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart etc also doing well. NBC foolishly did not try to build on the Fri night sitcom success. Rockford Files and Police woman did well off the back of Sanford/Chico but perhaps they should have moved Chico to 9pm and introduced 2 new sitcoms at 8.30/9.30 and move Rockford to another night. Both ABC and CBS got to #1 on the sitcom success but NBC missed their chance.
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
@hendersonite Thanks for reminding us of Kylie. I suspect Henry Slesar's stint at SFT was always intended as short term. The Corringtons had been hired by P&G to study their soaps and write some treatments.They might have not been the only ones so it was quite possible that Slesar was there until decisions were made about which writers would go where. Once the Corringtons arrived,Chance,Donna and Kylie were dropped.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
I wonder if it's going to be short scenes a la GH or they'll take time to play things out? Hoping for a mix and they go for longer scenes when called for. So many things to watch for. Characterization, acting, pacing, plotting,direction, sets, lighting, costumes. We are going to have A LOT to discuss.
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Murder, She Wrote
Shootdown was an NBC Monday movie and ranked #27 16.0/25 In the film, Nan Moore (Lansbury) loses her son in the Korean Air Lines Flight 007 disaster. She wishes to discover the truth about her son's death. Competition was ABC Football #21 16.8/30 CBS Murphy Brown # 32 15.5/22 designing women #30 15.8/23 Almost Grown #44 12.9/21 So this was a more dramatic role than her CBS offerings.
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NBC Daytime
Another nail in the coffin for NBC daytime. Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. House Party was flop. I guess the idea of counterprogramming had some appeal but soaps had never worked in the morning, as witnessed with Texas earlier in the decade. Maybe Days leading off might have worked bit I guess they were loathe to move their top rating soap. Broadcasting Dec 11 1989. WNBC -TV New York shuffles network daytime schedule With NBC's OK, owned station moves to consolidate soaps and game shows, strengthen lead -in to 'Donahue,' accommodate 'House Party' NBC has endorsed an unprecedented reshuffling of its daytime schedule by its owned- and -operated station, WNBC TV New York. The move is designed to boost the station's daytime performance, where WNBC TV and WCBS TV are in a close battle for second. But WABC TV is the dominant leader, with almost double the household rating in daytime of both of its affiliate competitors. The reshuffling will bring the four network soaps on the station into a new block that starts in mid-morning, while three game shows will move from the morning to a new afternoon block. In part, the new daytime schedule, which takes effect Jan. 22, is being made to ac- commodate the new NBC Group W program, House Party. But just as important, the station hopes the new schedule will beef up the lead in ratings of Donahue, seen as a solid performer at 4 p.m. that often does three times the rating of its current lead in, Santa Barbara. WNBC TV is canceling its 9 a.m. -10 a.m. magazine block, consisting of King World's Inside Edition and USA Today, effective with the start of the new schedule. USA Today had been canceled anyway by its distributor, GTG. Bill Moll, vice president and general manager, WNBC TV, said the station would move Inside Edition into the graveyard hours, but, as a result, King World had the right to seek a better clearance for the show on a competing station in the market. Last week, a King World spokeswoman said talks had begun with other stations in the market. As to WNBC TV's decision to, in effect, cancel the show, she said, "It's just not indicative of intellectual programing. The station will program 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. with Golden Girls and 227, which the network currently schedules from 11 a.m. to noon. House Party will follow at 10 a.m. At 11 a.m., WNBC TV will launch a mid morning soap block, starting with Santa Barbara. The show moves up from 3 p.m., where it has been a close third to CBS's Guiding Light, but far behind WABC TV's General Hospital, which provides a lead in to The Oprah Winfrey Show that helps it keep far ahead of both Donahue and WCBS TV's Geraldo from 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. Moll said that Santa Barbara, in its new time period, may fare better, being the only soap in the time period, against The Price is Right on WCBS TV and The Home Show on WABC TV. Following Santa Barbara, in order, from noon to 2:30 p.m., will be Generations, Days of our Lives and Another World. The newly created game show block will follow, with the syndicated Third Degree and NBC's Scrabble and Concentration. It is widely rumored that Warner Bros. will not bring back Third Degree next season. Last week, Moll confirmed WNBC -TV's acquisition of ITC's Tic, Tac, Dough, and said the station was looking at other game show product, which could be placed in the new afternoon block. Donahue will continue at 4 p.m., leading into the station's evening news block. Nightly News will continue to air at 7 p.m. Family Feud airs at 7:30 p.m., and is delivering competitive demographic numbers, said Judy Girard, the station's director of programing and broadcast operations. Traditionally, network owned and operated stations have carried their network feeds with little deviation. A notable exception is KCNC -TV Denver, which became an O &O when General Electric acquired NBC. That station has for some time juggled the network's daytime lineup, and is number one in the market in daytime. Nationally, NBC is ranked third in daytime. According to Moll, NBC TV President Pier Mapes "enthusiastically endorsed" the reshuffling on NBC. All the NBC owned stations are making adjustments to their daytime schedules to make room for House Party in January. It is understood that some of the owned stations, including KNBC TV Los Angeles, are also considering changes that would move soaps to morning. At deadline, a KNBC TV official said no decision had been reached on how to proceed.
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Ratings from the 80's
Or perhaps it was TOO personal but not confidential enough. Or TOO confidential, but not personal enough. Got to consider all possibilities...
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Y&R: January 2025 Discussion Thread
Putting Sharon and Nick back together is not the worst idea in the world, especially in light of the stories they've been given in the past few years. A lot of them could have been played with the couple together. Sharon's breast cancer (w/o the useless Rey marriage) Adam's return, Faith's bullying, Mariah surrogacy,various Victor dramas, Cameron's return etc
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Murder, She Wrote
Dec 89 Angela Lansbury has agreed to return as star of CBS's Murder, She Wrote for a seventh season. As part of the agreement, Corymore Productions Inc., which produces the show, has been given an order by CBS to develop an additional series for the 1990-91 season. Previously, Corymore agreed to produce several made for TV movies, and has been given a 13- episode commitment to develop a half -hour series with Lansbury when Murder, She Wrote has finished its run on the network. The renewal of Murder, She Wrote for another season is especially important for CBS in that it is one of only two top -ten ranked shows that CBS has on its schedule
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Ratings from the 80's
Personal and Confidential, was a magazine style show which was described as "Cosmopolitan, Vogue and People [magazines] and Entertainment Tonight all rolled up into one." NBC gave it a one week tryout in August 83 in the 3pm slot. And it was never heard of again.
- Y&R: January 2025 Discussion Thread
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
We have established that Kathy was introduced in 71. The latest script French Fan mentioned is NYE 71. and Scott and Kathy are dating. So Scott and Kathy marry in 72.
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
I agree about the look of the show in the promo. A stark look that made it feel as though the show was being done live. Tape can look cheap unless the lighting/post production deals with it. Definitely needs to be addressed that if that is what we are going to see onscreen. A few location shots included. Hopefully this will be a regular thing.
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
I hope over the next month CBS shows a range of promos so that potential viewers aren't sick of the show before it begins and they can highlight different aspects to appeal to a variety of audiences. Maybe some character profiles. Even something like the IG post above. 'The women of BTG will be serving looks!' Or 'Meet the men of BTG'
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
DICK LATESSA Edge of Night one day role as a gangster prior to role of Noel
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Y&R: January 2025 Discussion Thread
The tiny GP rooms looked like a mid range hotel-hardly the upmarket boutique hotel it was supposed to be. And just like the GCAC the same room was used for multiple characters. It's a pity both sets aren't used to provide some variety. Back to Billy - I'm confused about his living situation in the past few years. He was at the Chancellor Estate when they did the awful blue makeover and I remember him with Lily in the condo, but where else has he lived? Also how wealthy is he?That apartment is nice but not the sort of place you'd imagine a rich guy living in.
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ALL: Errors, Myths, Omissions & Firsts that weren't
Ok...the marriage proposal you give for some reason as Feb 1970 with the abortion the day before then say the abortion was in 72. Am I missing something?
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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Murder, She Wrote
Mrs 'Arris Goes to Paris Dec 27 1993 ranked #3 behind MSW #6 NBC Movie Opportunity Knocks was #25 ABC Movie Married to the Mob #29 The Shell Seekers Jan 31 1993 ranked #27 behind MSW # 37 This was counter programming to Superbowl/Post Game on NBC #1 and #3 ABC Movie witches of Eastwick #63 Mrs Santa Claus Dec 8 1996 ranked #3 8-10pm FOX movie Home Alone #8 7-9 X Files #23 ABC Lois & Clark #86 Movie Passenger 57 #48 NBC 3rd Rock #33 Boston Common #54 Movie Greedy #23 Mrs Santa Claus rpt Sat Nov 29 1997 ranked #62 NBC Movie The Brady Bunch # 47 ABC c-16/Nothing Sacred #74 and #71 So Angela delivered!