Everything posted by Paul Raven
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Sheila's reign of terror ended on Y&R when she was exposed and the move to B&B was a good twist. However due to shoddy writing, they brought her back and the whole thing descended into farce. I do not want that to happen to Leslie. She needs to be a viable antagonist who is punished in some way but picks up and continues. Not getting away with crimes and walking around town. There has been too much of that on soaps and BTG needs to avoid those poor choices.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Re Vanessa/Holly. By the time Vanessa was in town, Holly's story seemed to be winding down. Doug Marland didn't seem that interested in her. The Peter/Holly marriage was aborted and after that Holly is hardly mentioned, so you would assume her appearances were fewer as DM prepared to write her out. Holly was probably involved with Barbara, Andy and Ed. At that stage Vanessa was mainly involved with Ross and Alan. So it is possible that the two never crossed paths. As for Vanessa knowing about the rape case etc, she was not in town when it happened and was also the sort of character that was pretty self absorbed, so likely she wouldn't be overly interested in a ase from the year before.
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Y&R: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Those 3 recent deaths had no purpose. It wasn't like there was some involved murder mystery, with multiple clues and suspects. Instead random psycho was revealed and dealt with in one episode. Damian had plenty of story potential. OK if plans changed BTS send him and Amy out of town to continue her treatment. They had no interest in Chance, despite Connor Floyd being a capable and attractive actor. He could have been stabbed but recovered. He was recurring. So simply state Chance has been transferred. Leaving it open for the character to return (or not) Bringing back Cole after all those years was a smart move as Victoria's romantic options were severely limited. They could have developed the story further. After all those years away, surely there was backstory that could be explored. Maybe a women turns up that Cole was involved with and announces she's ready to accept his proposal. Cole has to explain he was involved with her etc thus alienating Victoria. Claire could dislike and vice versa. As they are loathe to hire new contract people, this character could be recurring like Cole and appear from time to time just to progress the story. But no, kill off Cole and leave Victoria with nothing to do.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
When the Duprees assembled at the house to wish Anita well, it was overflowing with females. The really needed to have included more men in the family from the outset eg Andre could have been Vernon's nephew or something. Or have a third child, a son. No Jacob at the concert? Was that explained? He seems to miss out on family events. And if this was such a momentous occasion wouldn't Bill and Hayley be there? Elon? Dana is a valuable character to stir things up. A pity they made her an attempted murderer. That makes it harder to redeem her. That made me think back to the first episode where Laura was talking to Mona about seeing her as a mother etc. You got the impression that those characters and relationships would be explored but they've been hardly seen since. Maybe there are/were plans down the line?
- Y&R: August 2025 Spoilers
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I agree the group number and the solo were forgettable. But the staging with just a few extras was effective. Did not like Dani's outfit at all.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
This is weekbeginning July 27 1981 . Royal Wedding was a preview of Charles/Diana nuptials that aired Tues 8-9 It's A Living aired after 3's Company, hence the Top 10 ranking. Taxi and 20/20 aired 9.30 and 10pm Thursday showing that during Summer people tune in later as they outrated Barney Miller at 9pm. CBS Royal Wedding special aired Wed at 8 and Champions was the CBS Wed movie at 9pm. In fact all networks had Royal Wedding specials on Wed. CBS at 8pm ABC at 9pm and NBC at 10pm. Robert Klein was a repeat airing Fri @9 opposite Dukes. Eight is Enough, BJ and Games People Play all aired Sat night.
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Y&R: August 2025 Discussion Thread
With so little happening, this counts as an event in the Y&R world. Mind you Jermaine Rivers got in the main titles... I wonder if Y&R actors are watching BTG with envy after seeing the concert sequences, while they spent 5 weeks standing around in a maze of plastic greenery.
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
I believe that 1974 schedule was a complete bust for ABC. Only The Rookies and Streets of San Francisco made any impression. Paper Moon, Get Christie Love, New Land, Texas Wheelers, Kodiak, Sonny Comedy Revue, Nakia all bombed. It looked like ABC would be in the basement for years to come. But Happy Days, Six Million Dollar took off and ABC slowly started building hits. By mid season 76 they hit #1.
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Dallas Discussion Thread
Thinking about some of the casting of those recurring/guest characters. I really wish Tina Louise had have stayed beyond the initial eps. If she had been there when the show took off maybe she could have finally shaken off the Ginger from Gilligans Island' tag. Maybe Julie could have shot JR!! Barbara Carrera and Marc Singer were duds. By the time Barbara Eden was cast, it was too late. There would have been way more publicity and interest had it happened earlier. Or should it have happened at all? Lois Chiles? Leigh Taylor Young? What do you think?
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BTG: July 2025 Discussion Thread
Exactly!
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BTG/Y&R: Crossover promo
If anything some of the BTG cast should be visiting Y&R to give that show an energy boost. The only Y&R cast member I want anywhere near BTG is Sean Dominic in a new role.
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BTG: July 2025 Discussion Thread
Yes and she could have been the first woman on the moon. It isn't in any way necessary to the story or character. There is enough suspension of belief inherent in soaps and other forms of drama w/o adding unnecessary details.
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BTG: July 2025 Discussion Thread
I don't see it as negativity. Just an overreach that takes away from 'reality' Like Anita being an EGOT. I could buy a Grammy for something like 'best group vocal r&b performance' or some such category but an Emmy,Tony and an Oscar?? Really?? As for Alex Alegria-how did he get past the audition? I get that they don't want to recast and let the weaker performers grow into their roles but he is not improving at all. It's spoiling the Kat/Eva storyline.
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Y&R: July 2025 Discussion Thread
3 deaths occurring at the same time... But it gives the characters something to talk about for a few episodes. Maybe Josh should go full throttle on this. Bring back Scott, Noah, Anita, Ana etc just to kill them off.
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ARTICLE: Conner Floyd Exits ‘The Young And The Restless’ As Legacy Character He Portrayed Is Killed Off Soap Opera
Remember at one point Griffih had Chance join the corporate world so he could be a part of 'The Young and the Business'. But that went nowhere b/c it was dumb move. Maybe have Chance become a PI so that he would have more reason not to be bound to the GCPD. The set issue seems to drive Y&R story decisions so Chance as PI would make more sense if he was always at CL,Society etc. Oh well...too late.
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ALL: Speculation on the Future of Successful Daytime Soap Operas
I think one of the problems with the current soaps is that a lot of those involved have the 80's/90's soaps as their experience/reference point. So their vision of what a soap is involves far out plots, back from the dead, big business etc That's not how soaps played earlier on with character based domestic stories. With the shrunken budgets, it would make sense to return to the roots and and once again focus on intimate relationship stories, Instead of pale imitations of the big budget years, As for location shooting, Neighbours had decades long permission to film in a particular suburban street to represent Ramsey St. I'm assuming if you bought in that street you would have to agree to filming taking place. Don't know they could enforce it.
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BTG: July 2025 Discussion Thread
I hate the whole 'man creates romantic fantasy for woman' trope so Andre/Ashley left me cold-even more so b/c I'm not buying for a minute that Andre would be attracted to a wet blanket like Ashley.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Another World Discussion Thread
He killed off Mary in the first place!
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
CBS reinvented themselves with AITD and MTM. They followed up with MASH, Bob Newhart, Rhoda, Maude, Good Times, Jeffersons etc But they failed to replenish the sitcom stockpile. Admittedly that is hard to do when you have so many hits, that available timeslots are few. ABC faced the same problem when they failed to replace the likes of Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, Three's Company, Barney Miller etc with new hits. And how did NBC get to #1? On the strength of sitcoms. The network with the most successful sitcoms in the 60's,70's and 80's was always #1.
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ARTICLE: ‘The Young And The Restless’ Star Bryton James Heads To ‘Beyond The Gates’ For CBS Soap Crossover Event
Please, I don't want anything Y&R to taint BTG. Using the word exciting in association with Devon? Bryton will probably be disoriented to be on a set that's bigger than a shoebox and with extras milling about.
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DAYS/Y&R: Casting Shocker!!
Talk it up any way you can Billy, but you've been handed a poisoned chalice. Hope the money and working conditions are an improvement on Days, cos the role and the writing is a dud.
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Y&R: July 2025 Discussion Thread
To be fair he also likes to bring in a psycho every few months eg Martin/Allen, Ian, Jordan, Cameron to kidnap someone or some antagonist that ends up dead eg Jeremy, Ashland.
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Y&R: July 2025 Discussion Thread
Again, we had the makings of a potentially interesting story. Who exactly was Carter? What was in his past that created this devotion to Cane? Had we got to know the character over a few months and sense his instability there might be some investment. Instead he is just some random cliched weirdo day player who kills off a promising newcomer and legacy character with no consequences. Chance was only brought back to be offed. I'm sure the funeral will take place out of town. Can't wait to get back to GC. Really missed CL,GCAC, Society and Jazz Lounge. More sitting around discussing big business.