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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

@DemetriKaneThat's a wonderful discovery. To think it was on there for two years without anyone even noticing! I am thrilled to get to see any glimpse of that period, or of the Anne and Paul story. I wish we could see more of Anne - Judith Barcroft was such a luminous actress, as shown here, and I would love to see her interact with Peter White, Ruth Warrick, etc. It's a shame that her main surviving soap work is her poor role on Ryan's Hope. 

Right!!

It would’ve been easier to find if she had put “All My Children” in the title (as opposed to “AMC”).

I periodically search YouTube for “All My Children, followed by various years in the ‘70s, to see if anything like this clip pops up.

23 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

La Lucci's mom passed away. She was very quiet on IG for a few weeks and now it makes sense. Her mom was 104. May she rest in peace.

I’m sad to hear that.

ETA:

https://people.com/tv/susan-lucci-mourns-her-mothers-death-at-104/

7 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

I ran pass this short clip with Anne and Paul from 1977. And Constance McCashion makes a cameo. I have to see more of this era.

 

 

Paul scared me at the end with his

”AAAAAANNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Btw, it was interesting how the little girl identified herself as “Elizabeth” (the same name as Anne and Paul’s dead baby), and the commercial that immediately followed was, “Hey, LIZ!!”

Wasn’t Anne married to a Duke or something (from a small European country) as her last husband??

I believe she died via a car bomb??

I can’t recall the details.

Who is Nelson Blanco??

I’m being sincere - I never heard of him before this.

1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

 

I mean come on! This clip always makes me smile. These are the episodes Susan Lucci should have submitted for the Emmys.

 

Incidentally, during the E! reunion show, Eva La Rue said that back in the day the show was only allowed to use the word "bitch" in the scripts twice a year and said they were always given to Susan. Rightfully so.

Do you remember 1994, at Erica’s trial for the “attempted murder” of Dimitri??.....

Right after Kendall commits perjury on the witness stand  by saying she NEVER told Erica that Dimitri had raped her (the catalyst for Erica going crazy and hallucinating Dimitri as Richard Fields, stabbing him with the letter opener).....

ERICA: “She is LYING!! She is LYING!! She is nothing but a lying BITCH!!”

2 minutes ago, allmc2008 said:

Where is the "Raging Bit*h"/"Why don't we name it after you" thing? I think it was pulled from YouTube.

Yes, Bianca - witnessing the tumultuous, toxic relationship of her parents (and uncle) at such a young age (and setting her dolls on fire), already suffering an eating disorder and relentless bullying at school - developing a substance abuse addiction would totally fit.

Kendall actually had a comfortable, middle-class upbringing in rural Florida, with her parents, by all accounts, spoiling and doting on her (which might explain her sense of entitlement).

While Bianca grew up privileged, with wealthy, high-profile parents (the apple of both their eyes), the emotional scars ran deep.

I agree about Kendall, too - while the girl obviously had “issues,” she was too determined to get what she deemed as rightfully her’s in life to fall prey to drugs.

21 hours ago, Liberty City said:

 

I hope the beard is temporary... because, it doesn't do anything for him. But good on them for reuniting. I know fans loved their pairing!

Agreed 100%.
 

I also liked how the seeds of Mark’s cocaine addiction were planted early on (with Erica treating it with casual disdain).... and then him hitting rock bottom in 1987, with Erica staging his intervention.

The “slow burn” of it made it seem more realistic (to an actual, authentic drug addiction), rather than, perhaps, just playing out over a few months to a year.

Btw, given Erica’s eventual addiction to prescription pain killers, I think it would’ve been interesting if they had either Kendall or Bianca suffer some sort of injury and develop the same addiction.

Substance abuse/drug addiction often runs in families.

I think that would’ve been better than all of the rape/baby sh!t the Kane women had to endure.

On 6/19/2021 at 5:55 PM, Paul Raven said:

Feb sweeps daytime ratings 10am-4pm 84 v 83

1984

CBS 7.6

ABC 7.1

NBC 5.3

 

1983

CBS 6.9

ABC 7.5

NBC 4.6

 

NBC must have been cheered about their improvement and hoping Santa Barbara would further help.

ABC's decline may have been attributed to Loving and the various 11am shows failing to make an impact.

All My Children also lost many of its’ most popular stars around this time period (1984) - Kim Delaney, Dorothy Lyman, Taylor Miller and Marcy Walker.

1983
 

Erica must contend with a bunch of annoying industry cokeheads during her Manhattan penthouse cocktail party.... meanwhile, bitchy gossip columnist Audrey “Bloodhound” Wilson drops in unannounced!! 

8 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

 Finally had the chance to watch the reunion on e!. It was great seeing everyone again, Big booty Jacob still fine as wine. It was a cute and fun special and i enjoyed it. Loved the AMC50 license plate. They had Eva narrating and giving out a few wrong facts; also your character libe in the same house with erica and never got slapped? That just proves how useless Maria really was imo. 

I had forgotten about JY’s fine ASS

Thank-you for reminding me.

Anyhow, just from that clip, I was amazed how everyone pretty much looks exactly the same as a decade earlier (when the show left ABC).

See All My Children Co-Stars Reunite & Relive Their Craziest Soap Opera Moments
 

https://www.eonline.com/news/1277401/see-all-my-children-co-stars-reunite-relive-their-craziest-soap-opera-moments

1 hour ago, DemetriKane said:

Omg! All this sounds incredible to me. I have to watch this kitty/kelly saga before i die lmao. Just from that promo posted a few pages back, 78/79 feels like a different show to me. 

Yes!!

And I forgot to mention that the Phoebe/Charles/Mona saga was reaching its’ climax, with Charles filing for divorce and marrying Mona in 1980.

11 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

Do you happen to know what storyline pushed AMC to number one in 1978/79? Was it the Eddie Dorrance murder?

It could’ve very well have been Eddie Dorrance’s murder.

Eddie was pumping Kelly full of drugs and beating her; she needed amphetamines to perform her singing act, and barbiturates to come down.
Eddie had also raped Brooke, with her getting pregnant and having an abortion (a plot point many seem to have forgotten).
I believe it was briefly mentioned in ‘94, when Brooke had her ectopic pregnancy w/ Tad, and perhaps earlier when she was having fertility problems w/ Adam.

Anyhow, ‘78-‘79 was also the year when Erica wed conservative, old-fashioned  Catholic Tom Cudahy, with her posing as a wholesome housewife, yet taking contraceptives (while stating she wanted a child) behind his back.

Erica was also planning the construction of her dance club - a.k.a. “Disco Deceit.”

Crazies Ray Gardner and Billy Clyde Tuggle were center stage, w/ B.C. tormenting Donna Beck and Estelle LaTour.

There was a quadrangle with Tara/Phillip/Donna/Chuck.

‘78-‘79 was also the introduction of the Cortlandt Family.

18 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

@Pine Charles it was well deserved. Not sure why "Most improved show"  because i remember 86 being very good too, that was the year of Erica/Jeremy/Natalie triangle taking center stage. Cortlandt manor was the main draw of 87, yea i believe she was writing the show at that time. Lorraine just get it! Secrets, scandals, affairs = soapy goodness; she lowkey redid this storyline with Jr/ Annie/Brooke/Adam too! 

From my recollection, SOD wrote how the cast was bloated and that there were a bunch of “island” storylines - with characters isolated in their own particular plots.

I remember the article being posted here before, so perhaps it will be again (so we can get more clarity).

And not like ratings are the measure of quality storytelling, but the ratings did dip significantly over 1985-1986.

Three huge stars left around 1984 - Dorothy Lyman, Kim Delaney, and Marcy Walker. I always thought that contributed - at least somewhat - to the dip.

But ratings shot up again in the latter half of 1987, I believe largely due to Natalie’s rape trial, with AMC reaching #1 in December ‘87.

ETA: I believe Taylor Miller also left (for the first time) around ‘84/‘85 as well.

23 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

Really good episode. I was enjoying all the storylines, 87 wasn't that bad of a year imo. Ross and Natalie affair was so hot and steamy, they should have let them pushed forward with it instead of making ross rape Natalie. I was very intrigued by the jesse/Yvonne/angie story too. I adore the character of julie, I wish Beth Elhers was brought on as Julie chandler recast.

I believe AMC was given the “Most Improved Show” acknowledgment for 1987, by SOD, thanks largely to the drama at Cortlandt Manor (Ross/Natalie/Palmer/Julie).

IIRC, that story is credited to the wonderful Lorraine Broderick.

On 5/22/2021 at 9:22 AM, victoria foxton said:

 

  

Great find!!

The host is incredibly irritating, though.

Anyway, I thought I’d share these photos from the wedding of Kate Collins & Charles Newell (renowned Chicago theatre director & producer) in October 1992:

Current:

I wish Wisner had spilled the tea regarding Megan McTavish.

She definitely has a reputation for being stubborn/difficult.... but I wanted DETAILS.

Wisner is classy, of course.

Anyhow, I, too, had a hard time understanding the cohost (his voice kept breaking up).

I did feel bad for him, though.

Oh, and the Lynn Carson (Daytime’s first OUT character, correct??) story played  - and ended - in 1983.

So they were quite off when they mentioned “25 or 27 years ago.”

I read somewhere that the show was going to have the character be a gay male, but decided to make the character a lesbian because Dynasty had a gay male character (Steven) at the time.

That could just be an untrue rumor, however.

Having Devon develop a crush on Lynn seemed quite random, and, as Wisner stated, it’s unfortunate the writing wasn’t better. 
Still, it was a gutsy move considering the time period.

20 minutes ago, cassistan said:

The highlighted part is what stick out the most.  When I read up on her, Erica is who I thought of and who I probably would have fashion her after. I Questioned who and where is her birth father? Her relationship with her mom is very similar to Mona/Erica.
 

Well I don’t think a new Erica necessarily have to come from humble beginnings I.E. greenlee. I would argue she did come from humble beginnings, yea her parents had money but most rich black folks in the 90s were new money. She also had her time being a have not and whatnot with Noah, that’s when I would have placed her at enchantment and let the story write itself.

 

 

@EricMontreal22 I was bothered by the fact that he, focused on the same couple storylines that everybody else has: Erica’s abortion, Bianca coming out, the war etc. I would like for someone to really go into detail about All the things she tackled like the home invasion, Michael Delaney coming out (which was a true umbrella storyline), Janet’s journey in PV, Taylor/Terrence deconstruction storyline, injecting comedy into soap opera and becoming the first dramedy, Angie’s sexual harassment, all the other career driven females on all her shows,  being the first to do twins, being the first to go on location, etc. I wanted it all highlighted at once. I guess I’m acting like a brat. 

OK, I totally misunderstood that YOU think of Taylor as a “Black Erica Kane” after reviewing her character.

I was originally thinking that some random site with the character’s bio listed her as a “Black Erica Kane.”  

Forgive me.
I need more sleep!!
(I also misconstrued a previous person’s comment regarding Erica, Janet and Natalie to mean they thought Erica should’ve been an accomplice in Janet’s well plot - when all they meant was Erica should’ve given Janet her original makeover )

Btw, you made very good points about how a “new Erica” doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of the original.

@ghfan89Thank-you for that information.
 

Yeah, “Black Erica Kane” is confusing, since Erica came from humble beginnings (her father was successful in Hollywood, but abandoned the family, with her mother working as a secretary).

Erica procured her wealth through an entertainment career, cosmetics company, ect.

Taylor grew up rich, and I guess chose to become a cop to “prove” herself (to those who dismissed her as a vapid rich girl).

Both are feisty, scheming characters, but I don’t see any similarities other than that.

Of course, if Taylor had lasted for YEARS (instead of about 4), perhaps they would’ve gained a bit more in common. LOL

Btw, what bio proclaims her as the “Black Erica Kane” (didn’t Lil Kim also give herself that title)??

Taylor - played by the feisty, charismatic Ingrid Rogers - should’ve lasted longer.

I would’ve written the hell outta that character.

Was she fired (I know they had the recast) or did she leave??

If she was fired, I would like to know why.

Greenlee - after Frons shackled her to Ryan.

Just now, David_Vickers said:

Kim Delaney (ex-Jenny Gardner Nelson) still looks damn good as well, and she's doing great as Jackie Templeton. 

She does indeed look fabulous (especially when you consider her battle with alcohol, which isn’t exactly a youth serum). 

2 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

He looks great, yeah. The dodgy Streetcar Named Desire accent he’s using is unfortunate.

I had the television on MUTE.