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Agreed. LVP, Kyle and Rinna absolutely should have owned it openly and without shame. After Yo got her leaky implants removed and a lump-sum divorce deal on the table with David, that 'chronic Lyme' cleared up mighty quickly. She was holding out for more money. As she had done with Mohammed (couldn't happen to a more deserving fellow, apparently he was cheating on her with every escort girl in LA). And that is probably why LVP didn't believe Yo one bit -- she'd seen it first-hand the first time around. LVP, Rinna and Kyle second-guessed audience reaction and guessed wrongly. As it turned out, the audience already had their doubts and are VERY well-informed on chronic illnesses, some of them having suffered themselves. Yolanda's story did not ring true to them. But LVP, Rinna and Kyle are deathly afraid of audience backlash. LVP's sweet spot is being BH's beloved heroine. She desperately wants to be admired and loved by her employees as Lady Bountiful, by her friends, and by the viewers, and she is deeply hurt by rejection. It is her Achilles heel. For whatever reason to do with her childhood, this unquestioning love and admiration makes her feel safe. Anyway, she couldn't bear to lose even a few fans over this, so she backtracked and covered up and... the cover-up was so much worse. They are all trying to control the narrative and grab that beloved-heroine status. As I've said before, it is killing the show. Rinna especially has made it her mission to target a weak link every season. You best believe that won't stop once LVP is gone. Kyle is definitely next in her sights, and so is Dorit. I wish LVP would walk out mid-season with a dramatic hair toss and pay those bitches dust. I'd like to think that after the loss of her brother, she has come to a realisation that all that glitters is not gold, and taken stock of the things that truly matter in her life. She does not need these women's love/approval/dubious loyalty for her life to be happy. My worry is that after the lawsuit and the Todds' inability to sell Villa Blanca, LVP needs the Bravo cheque to cover damages and litigation.

The site won't let me access it, because I am in foreign lands and therefore not to be trusted. But if this is anything like yesterday's TT post http://tamaratattles.com/2018/10/04/what-is-wrong-with-these-pictures/ ...then I think I know what this is about. (Don't know what the Kyle-Ken screaming match is about tho). LVP is being iced out, or she has chosen to ice herself out. RHOBH is a Jenner-Kardashian wannabe hybrid, and The Lost Collins Sister doesn't fit that template anymore. LVP is better off doing VPR and having her own mini-show tbh. The mini-show could follow Lisa & Ken on their travels to London and the South of France. Back in the early days of BH, they went to the SoF to visit Ken's son (her stepson) and his wife. There was some contention about the relationship because the wife had been LVP's peer age-wise and Ken's son was much younger. LVP laid the dynamics out there. It made for an interesting, rather moving, trip (as well as a glamorous one). This is LVP's natural stomping ground. There is something wonderfully 80s about Lisa, from her looks (Lost Collins Sister meets Scarlett O'Hara) to her Alexis Colbyesque aura, to her connection with the go-go 80s London nightclub world. Sir Alan Sugar, Dame Joan Collins! -- there are lot of big names that could show up if the Todds wanted to tug on their UK connections. I would rather see her dip a toe in that Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous world than attempt another SoulCycle class. As for the rest of these BH HWs -- let them ape the rapidly-declining KUWTK in their bid for relevancy. I am willing to enjoy this new grouping for what it is -- ex-actresses in a second tier reality show which E! churns out and then cancels with alacrity. BH won't be the way it was in the first few seasons. Rinna and Erika have seen to that. The show has evolved and LVP is not part of that evolution. If Bravo really wants to give the franchise heft, they would hire Naomi Campbell (who has a place in LA) to be Queen Bitch of BH. She would be SUPERB.

Right? CBS's Friday line-up and NBC's Saturday schedule were literally appointment TV. I remember my parents ordering pizza instead of cooking on Saturdays so they could relax and enjoy the Golden Girls at al. In the early 90s, NBC put Sisters on Saturday nights at 10pm, and that was a surprise breakout show for the network in that timeslot. Thank you @Paul Raven for starting this topic. It really takes me back to some happy memories in my childhood. I never realised this but another show I adored, Murder, She Wrote, was the #1 show on CBS at the time. Starring a 60-something female, no less!

Ahh got it. Sorry, I misread what you were saying. Seriously, this season would be so good seeing preggers Kenya and Porsha bonding, giving each other advice, talking about the hopes they have for their babies, etc. I would watch that. I don't know why she isn't a HW either. Danielle brings it. Why does Bravo feel it must absolutely edit out most of the marriage stuff? This is drama, and organic drama at that. And it is very Danielle. I'd rather watch that than the Gorga family restaurant. Sad that the burgeoning Danielle-Margaret friendship did not work out. Sounds like Margaret talked about Danielle's marriage. So once again I have to ask: why is Danielle not a HW?? ETA: She is right about Jaqueline.

Oh wow this is news to me. I thought Kenya and Kandi have been tight for years, especially when Kandi started to pull away from Phaedra. But yeah I totally agree. More than any other season, Kenya needs to be there. Her story has come full circle and fits perfectly with Porsha, Eva and Shamea's pregnancies, too. I really like that Kenya has kept in contact with the other HWs, and I'm especially happily shocked by the pic with Porsha. I honestly never thought I would see that, not after all these years of animosity.

Hey @Mr. Vixen ! Glad to have you back! Missed reading your posts tbh. About Potomac, I don't think Ashley is delusional. She has always been very clear headed. I do think she is an opportunist and her reaction is pure Trumpian spin. She's basically putting fake news out there to confuse and diffuse the issue. I hope Bravo put out every scrap of relevant footage out there! She's always claimed to put it all out there.

I liked OC too @DaytimeFan . Shannon was sweetly terrified at QVC, but it was great that this story anchored the episode. We saw them prepare the QVC segment from start to finish (that stuff is fascinating to me). The best part? All the ladies were so supportive of Shannon's gig, either going with her for moral support or hosting a viewing party back in California. Kelly looked especially happy for Shannon. She really came across well this episode. Vicki and Kelly prank-calling QVC and getting hung up on -- twice -- was funny too. Budget Jeana and Stevie Nicks still not doing much for me, but I can live with it. The relationships of the core four are where it's at, and I think the trip will deliver. Shannon's blue jacket was a gorgeous color on her. She needed a better blouse/top, though.

It may not be on our screens anytime soon, but the good news is that Potomac is currently filming. I can't see Bravo cutting this out of the show. Especially as Ashley always claims to 'show everything.'

He went after BBG's finances at reunion and luxuriated in the Hugers' issues with the IRS. Karma's a bitch!

I can believe it. When Gretchen first came on the show, it was clear she was a copier -- closely SWFing Tamra in her look and the things she liked. She coveted what other people had. It stands to reason she would remake herself through surgery. I can't believe she is still under 40, damn. She doesn't look it.

Ask and yea shall receive!

There is speculation that Jim & Alexis's divorce (somewhere in heaven an angel weeps) is actually a front so that Jim can preserve his assets. He is being sued for some reason to do with these Skyzone trampoline parks, and doesn't want the court seizing his (alleged) ill-begotten gains. Anyway, he has transferred some of his property into Alexis's name and that has got tongues wagging. So much Shakespearean comeuppance! As soon as Alexis was iced out (one down, one to go!), Tamra knew Gretchen would hang herself if given enough rope. She understood that Gretchen always copies the other women in order to one-up them. Tamra wants a pink motorcycle? Oh, look what Jim gave me! Tamra got a wedding spin-off? Oh, hey, let me stage a fake proposal from Slade! Heather is on a TV show? OMG, I'm so glad they gave you the part that I turned down! Tamra basically caught Gretchen out on her lies and delusions, and took much delight in obliterating her at reunion. It was a takedown that was over two years in the making. And it was EPIC!

There are moments when I get deluded into thinking we might be on the cusp of another Lynne (who seemed to symbolize the breakdown of 2008 America) with Lawn Guylind. But then she says everything is super-fine between her and her invisible ex, and I am left thinking 'What did I just watch?' Absolutely nothing! Bargain-Basement Jeana is an even bigger disappointment. She looks like a core original HW. She has known Tamra for some years, and am I right in thinking she sided with Simon and possibly Gretchen at one point in their relationship? The show has led us to believe there is unmined history there. And yet instead, all we are getting is rehearsed scripted bullshit between her and her rodent hubby. Snore!

Anything for relevancy, eh, Gretchen? SO HARD to know who to root for! But I'm Team Shamra. I don't know if I could ever side with Wretched, Slave and Hair-Plugs Bellino. Why do I get the feeling Gretchen is making calls to Bravo saying she will no longer testify if RHOC brings her back as a HW? Given the duds that are Lawn Guylind and Budget Jeana, Bravo might just hear her out.

So I guess Andy Cohen wasn't so OK with Carole calling him full of [!@#$%^&*], huh. http://dlisted.com/2018/09/25/andy-cohen-is-feuding-with-carole-radziwill/ Carole is conspicuously absent from the Housewives Awards, including Best Style (a nomination I am sure she coveted).

Incidentally, Rinna and Erotika are clogging up my Instagram with appeals to vote for them in the Housewives Awards. Erotika is up for Best Style, which she is bound to win because her rivals in that category are Margaret of NJ (!), Gizelle (!!), Kameron, Luann (JOVANI!) and Shannon (huh?). Oh, I see Cynthia is also in the running. Rinna is up for Miss Congeniality which, WTF. She is running against Cynthia, Cary Deuber , Dolores, Tinsley, Shannon and Monique. All I know is, Grande Dame Karen Huger better smash Most Memorable Wig ! http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-awards-2018 ETA: Just saw Rookie of the Year nominees. Eva Marcille (!!!!! when?), Teddi Bear ('kay...), the two Whatstheirnames on the OC (wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!), Candy ass (who earned her place during Reunion imo), and Margaret. Surely this is Marge's to lose.

I wonder why LVP refused. Erotika implies it's because she feels she is above all the other women and not part of the 'ensemble.' Is this Production's hand? Or are the other women are behind this? They seem to be Danielle Staub-ing her so she has no story and therefore no purpose on the show. Rinna started beating the ageist drum last year about how LVP was too old and it's time to get rid of the oldies. I really cannot stand Rinna. She and LVP are only 3 years apart! But Rinna is one of those idiots who says sh*t like "People think me and my daughters look like SISTERS, ISN'T THAT FUNNY??" It is ironic that LVP actually has more chemistry with the VPR cast, who are younger, than her BH cast. Kyle seems to have dropped the LVP alliance. Dorit has been ready to dump LVP for over a year now. The story in that article/comments about LVP's birthday on Sep 19 was kind of mean. Nobody wished her HB on social media, except for Rinna who posted a pic of birthday cupcakes with pills on them. Another nasty jab. Rinna either really hates LVP, or she forgot that LVP's brother died of a drug overdose in May. I wonder if she will even finish out the season, or refuse to show up to Reunion. I also wonder if Bravo will give her a raise at VPR to do VPR alone and leave BH quietly. Even though LVP no longer fits BH in its current incarnation, I feel bad that this is happening to her and that Rinna, Erika and Kyle are succeeding where Adrienne and Yolanda failed. They will squawk their triumph from the rooftops, make no mistake.

Yeah, the drop between RHONJ and Potomac is large. I was surprised that Million Dollar Listing surpassed M2M (though that awful dirge Bethenny & Fredrik is not even listed!). I am also surprised that Southern Charm: New Orleans just tipped Dallas. RHOD deserves to be higher, so does Potomac. Amazingly, Shahs stays consistent. Pretty much everybody on there seems to be randomly vile to each other ! Then again, I can't get into VPR either so I'm clearly not Bravo's target viewer.

Wow. Those ratings were not at all as I expected. Last season's BH was #3? No wonder they didn't bother to change the line-up.

I was about to give up last night's M2M episode halfway through, but held out for the team-bonding stuff because I wanted to see Heathenly get hit on the back of the head with a dodgeball. Heavenly, I noticed, is very insecure about her sporting skills and, by extension, her physique. That's why she purposely messes up/gives up on a sports challenge before it even starts. Contrast that with Mariah who throws herself into them even though she herself may have some of the same insecurities Heavenly has. My point is, Heavenly cannot stand being in a situation where she isn't top dog and lording it over others. The Contessa/dad stuff is almost impossible for me to watch because I went through something like this with my mom. One thing I can say is that NONE of my friends did what Toya is doing to Contessa. Toya is so selfish and spoiled. As Contessa says, Toya is just starting a fight for the sake of it. She is pretty much cancelled for me until she readjusts her attitude.

As @DaytimeFan and @j swift said, no she probably wouldn't. She is old school and moves in rarefied circles now. The Rothschilds are definitely not into that lol. A girl can dream, though! I always hoped that Kathy appearing on the show in past seasons, coupled with Andy and Bravo rolling out a charm offensive (Kim still loves Andy, apparently), might sway Little Kathy.

See, if Bravo had hired Kathy Hilton like I suggested, we wouldn't be having this problem! Kyle and Rinna would be too busy fighting with Kathy.

Ever since Munchausen Season (seasons 6), production and cast have been working to edge LVP out. They've brought on people of a different demographic (Erika, Dorit, Teddi). They've had Rinna age-shame her with 'It's time to get rid of the old' -- this fool forgets that she and Eileen are LVP's age group! Kyle has been trying to push LVP off the show for centuries. Ironically, their obsession with LVP actually keeps her on the show. LVP has outgrown this franchise. Like @DaytimeFan said, she is better off focusing on VPR, which pulls in the ratings and demos. She can be the tough, strategic boss lady and nobody is bothered by it. On RHOBH, wealthy, over-privileged women attack her for her cunning and strategy; they cultivate their victimhood as a weapon against her. It is deathly boring. And no offense, but 18 episodes of LVP adopting poodles is boring, too. I'd rather see her in her natural work habitat.

The trailer does look good. FYI the Kyra Sedgwick one [(c) @alwaysAMC ] is actually called... Jacqueline ! I'm bummed there is not much Danielle, but she is definitely in this season. E! News had a feature about it a few weeks ago, and Bravo gave them footage from the new season of Danielle being proposed to by her now-almost-ex-hubby. Melissa and Teresa were looking on because they had apparently helped to set-up the proposal. One thing I really liked about last season was the very lovely friendship blossoming between Danielle and Margaret. It seemed to be the real deal and not as alliance-based as some other friendships on the show. As for Teresa and Melissa fighting -- this actually makes Melissa vaguely relevant for the first time since S3. I wonder which side Danielle will choose?

I watched the first episode of that season and literally switched off halfway through. I just couldn't.