Everything posted by bongobong
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B&B: December 2025 Discussion Thread
Sheila's exclusion is logical but with sloppy execution. Deacon is finally in a good place with Hope but their relationship isn't on firmly solid ground. I can see him not wanting to rock the boat there. However, having Beth being the vetoer was dumb, it should have been Hope. Missed opportunity for a logical story beat there. I don't disagree with anything you said about Luna's reign of terror as the FC intern, but Katie being marginalized works for me. Ridge doesn't consider the feelings of women, especially ones he isn't sleeping with, and Brooke doesn't go against him by default. Likewise, I buy Ridge pushing Eric out but Daphne shouldn't have been the only dissenter. Maybe they'll go there (not holding my breath) but Steffy would/should be pissed that Ridge made a huge decision without consulting her. The biggest problem with the show this fall has been how vanilla the millennials have been. Hope, Steffy & Liam have been entirely too agreeable for months now. With the exception of Brooke, the GenXers are the ones allowed to have a clear POV.
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B&B: December 2025 Discussion Thread
The show is telegraphing Eric & Katie leaving to create a startup fashion house but I don't know if there will be a follow through.
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ABC pulls “Jimmy Kimmel Live” from air indefinitely following host's Charlie Kirk comments
Damn, I should have made the bet!
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Entertainment Business Thread
I'd much rather it went to Paramount. They'd be more likely to keep enough HBO execs & just roll Paramount+ into whatever they called the new service. This is a sad day. Despite its slogan, HBO's shows operate as the best of TV - they have distinguishable episodes that form a larger story. In 95% of Netflix shows you can't distinguish one episode from another and that is very much by design. There's room for that model - heck I'm posting on a soap board. But that's a small portion of my viewing.
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B&B: December 2025 Discussion Thread
Dec 2026 - Eric does something or another to use up John McCook's guarantees for the year again. Good on Daphne for standing her ground against Ridge when everyone else passively went along with his plan.
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ARTICLE: ‘General Hospital’ Hits Season Highs In Key Demos, ‘The Young And The Restless’ Ranks 10th Among Women 18-49 – RATINGS
The first time in a while. Y&R lost weeks until this year, but it was the late 2000s when it pulled away from the pack in that demo. Before that the leaders were mostly: Early 90s: AMC Mid 90s: Days Late 90s to Mid-late 2000s: A horse race between Y&R, Days & GH I assume GH, AMC & OLTL ruled the 80s with an iron fist.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Yeah, the Clarke story suffers in the same way the Macy/Thorne/Karen does - it's so sporadic. That said, I find Clarke annoying when he's not paired with Sally, so I don't mind the stops. Kristin is my least favorite character ever so I find it hilarious that no one in her family gives a damn that she's back so she's just slumming it with Clarke.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Mid 1992 is entertaining even if it's the sloppiest I've ever seen the show: -Sheila uses her real name (OK, they don't want to confuse viewers) when applying to FC AND her reference is the place that thinks she's dead? -Blake holds Karen hostage and the police are called. But after chilling out for a few weeks he can go about his business of selling his house, as well as visiting Taylor & Brooke. -No conflict or any hint of tension between Taylor & her dad until she returns from her honeymoon. She then remembers his gambling past and is wary of him. -Even though she's as close as she's ever been, Stephanie does a 180 and out of the blue accepts that Eric doesn't want her and moves on, and now she likes Taylor too. The last one I liked, because it's nice to see Stephanie not play the loser in love for a change. But it seems like moving Sheila to B&B was a somewhat last minute decision and the writers quickly rearranged things. It makes sense that they needed to move Stephanie out of Eric's orbit for the start of Sheila getting her hooks into Eric. Other thoughts: -Yikes, was Lane Davies miscast as Ridge for the fill-in job. Ever seen felt like he was on a completely different show than his scene partners. I think his reputation saves this from ridicule as an all-time stinker performance. -The zany music cues at Spectra are super annoying, but Darlene Connelly is excellent and makes everything they throw at her work. -Colleen Dion is such a nice presence as Felicia as @DRW50 , even if the show didn't know what to do with her. I feel that because the confrontation scenes with Macy were a bust, the show began to devalue her (and scrapped the quad with Jake & Thorne). The Zack storyline feels like a worse retread of the Jake storyline. The show chemistry-tested her with the cop who investigated Thorne's shooting/Belief theft - now that would have been an interesting pairing. Her mother/daughter scenes with Susan Flannery are excellent. -Everything Macy/Thorne/Karen is so stop & go that it's hard to get any traction.
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B&B: December 2025 Discussion Thread
I was hoping they'd clarify what Brooke's title is. Does she just run the Brooke's Bedroom line? Is she President again? If the latter, PR would be in her purview. Katie annoyed that Brooke goes back to siding with Ridge over her family is - dare I say - natural conflict. The new sets are great & all, but they really need another office set at Forrester. Why would the head of PR be working in the design office? There should be a smaller third office that they can redress for Katie, Carter, Daphne & Ivy/Electra would logically have their own spaces. They don't need an elaborate shipping set like back in the day, but having only 3 spaces at FC makes the company seem tiny.
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ALL: Recasts for popular characters that weren't accepted.
Pretty much by 1994 Imgflip
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ALL: Recasts for popular characters that weren't accepted.
Jane Elliot as Beth is a fascinating What IF. Even if she didn't stick around beyond her initial contract (wasn't she over LA in the 90s if I remember correctly?) it would have changed the trajectory of the show in a major way. I can't imagine that Beth vs Stephanie wouldn't have been a more prominent rivalry with Elliot in the role. Sally replaced Beth as Stephanie's over 40 foil in '89, would there be a Sally Spectra in this universe? Still amazing after all these years. This clip has it all: the worst actress in Days history (Rahmer), DAYS' best recast of the 2000s (Lindell) & the guy from Good Morning Football.
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ARTICLE: ‘The Bold And The Beautiful’ Top Soap Among Women 18-49, ‘General Hospital’ Bounces Back – RATINGS
ABC really outsmarted itself marking The View as specials. Good for B&B. It's having a (relatively) great fall. I guess we'll see how it fares until Luna comes back. Odd that none if its big 5 of the past decade (Hope, Steffy, Brooke, Ridge, Liam) are driving story at the moment. Looks to be the worst hold yet for BTG vs its lead-in in W18-49, falling below 2/3rds for the first time. Also fell below The Talk for the first time in W25-54. On the bright side, it had its best retention in that demo from B&B in weeks.
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ALL: They Almost Became
I assumed the actress was in her late 20s when the show started. Even then she seemed too young for Ethan to refer to her as Aunt Sheridan. Not to mention being best friends with Princess Di!
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ALL: Recasts who were quickly accepted by the audience
I could be mistaken but I thought Valley's Jack was divisive at first because his stoic take was so different than Ashford's more comedic character. If we're counting actors who replaced unpopular recasts I remember Lisa Brenner being well liked as Maggie on AW taking over for Jodi O'Keefe (who went on to a good career after). In the category of returns after a long gap Mark Collier as Mike on ATWT & Wendy Moniz as Dinah on GL qualify. For quick turnaround recasts, Windsor Harmon was accepted quickly as Thorne. No offence to those 4 or 5 Jeff Trachta truthers who protested the studio.
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Primetime stars - Their hits and misses...
Absolutely, it was an amazing performance. Joining 24 in season 5 was a great career move: - Connie Britton went on to Friday Night Lights the next season -Jayne Atkinson stayed on for a few more seasons then went on to a solid career (House of Cards, Criminal Minds) -Stana Katic got Castle a few years later -And the strangest, Brady Corbet who played Britton's son went on to direct the Brutalist
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ARTICLE: ‘General Hospital’ Sets New Lows Among Key Demos Amid Disney/YouTube TV Carriage Dispute – RATINGS
Probably because its more of what we've seen from the show since it returned from its Labor Day week break. Falling behind The Talk in W18-49 again. Even in W25-54. Demo growth when its lead-in grew but lackluster holds of 73 & 71%. Up until the said break its demos and retention rates were much better, with similar viewer numbers.
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Primetime stars - Their hits and misses...
Thanks for letting me know about this, it has a good cast and interesting premise. Did you enjoy it? I think Boss is the only Starz drama I've seen.
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Primetime stars - Their hits and misses...
Tichina Arnold has a perfect record on broadcast, with a hit every decade. Martin in the 90s, Everybody Hates Chris in the 00s and The Neighborhood in the 10s.
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B&B: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Is Remy going to be texter who hit "Luna"? He filled in for Luna as the psycho last year around this time last year when they rested the character for a few months. The lengths the show goes to avoid mentioning RJ in connection to Luna is comical. Half the episode was talking about Luna causing bad PR for Forrester. Yet no one brought up that she was dating Ridge's son during her murder spree. And oh yeah, he was an influencer who probably posted hundred of pics of them together.
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LATEST RATINGS: November 3-7, 2025
Wasn't this the first week of Roger Howarth on Y&R? Good week to be Michael Easton's agent!
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ARTICLE: Rewatch The Articulettes’ Reunion Concert On ‘Beyond The Gates’ (EXCLUSIVE)
Because the topic at hand was the reason behind the repeats. I provided links by a credible source (Errol) who provided solid reasoning for it, confirmed by his sources. But believe what you want.
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ARTICLE: Rewatch The Articulettes’ Reunion Concert On ‘Beyond The Gates’ (EXCLUSIVE)
As I said in the original post, they can just start airing the next batch after the first one. Also, Errol reported on this during the first week of repeats. https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/12/#findComment-2035240 https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-2034027
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ARTICLE: Rewatch The Articulettes’ Reunion Concert On ‘Beyond The Gates’ (EXCLUSIVE)
We also know that CBS can start airing the second batch of ordered episodes after the first one has completed airing. Enough are already in the can, the show does the Days method of production. It's obvious that the repeats have nothing to do with the limited order despite the PR spin. The major holiday pre-emptions were planned, but none of its 8 executive producers knew that the repeat weeks were coming - at least the first one. Now its being pulled on Veterans Day Eve and the day before Thanksgiving.
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B&B: November 2025 Discussion Thread
She faked the miscarriage so when they do the autopsy on the fake Luna body it won't raise red flags. I guess the guard helped her fake it. -1 for no one at Steffy's house grilling Li if she's keeping Luna alive again.
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B&B: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Kudos to the director, I can't think of another soap episode that looked better. The shot of Steffy & Finn zooming out from their house was amazing. This show still has its fastball.