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I've love to see actual footage from Kay shattering the patio windows with Jill's screaming at the revelation that Katherine was actually still alive. The audio I've heard made it sound absolutely terrifying. I also thought Jill had married the blind guy David but my memory of reading the late 70s' synopses must be really skewered although it was part of a bit of redemption tale for Jill if I recall right. That photo of Neil and Dru did seem odd to me and screamed more 1987 than early '90s. Steve Ford and Colleen Casey don't look too flattering next to Davidson and Bregman either.

From November 1985, Mindy's wedding to Kurt Corday when Billy went nuts...

Some classic photos of Y&R from the 80s and 90s:

I forgot to mention that the first photo that is Keith Charles as Ralph Mitchell, he made a guest reprisal in 1998 which I really don't recall at all. In regards to that 3/29/96 episode there on Youtube, several years ago the old WOST site had I think either the 3/27 or 3/28 episode up which featured an angry John trying to choke Lisa to death after she interrupted his hospital board reinstatement hearing with Kim, Nancy, and Lucinda trying to pry him off. That scene has always disturbed me since.

I was just going through the archives on this site particularly reading old every weekly/monthly discussions on ATWT and I guess I never realized that even to the end in those final three years I was committed to the show, Cleo, the Iraqi wife of Noah, Holden/Carly, and the Z twins all excluded of course. Anyways I have a few pics to share, these appeared in the 11/24/98 issue of Soap News:

I was just reading some recaps from 1996 and saw Katherine actually did offer a piece of her inheritance to Kurt Costner in exchange for him living with her. I wonder if he'll be involved somehow with Katherine's death storyline.

I should upload the August 1995 episodes I have. The two or three eps I know I have tucked away mostly deal with Nick shooting Matt and the weird stuff of Cole and his nutty apprentice. Epperson took an extended maternity leave if I recall right and the whole Blade/Rick tale sputtered and got confusing. I'm glad to hear someone re-uploaded the revelation episodes, Jill's involvement and Jess Walton's performance stole the story as did Diane Barton.

Good to see early Phyllis there and a young Eddie Cibrian. I think Cibrian was on what, Baywatch Nights concurrently with Y&R during his last days on the show, and yes that is LOL-worthy. Is that Steven Culp as Brian Hamilton? The Victor and Ashley scene was nice and ironic in hindsight. I think they were becoming sparse by this point as Epperson was in and out during this time if I recall right. Much better than the flat scenes we'd get a couple years later of Shattuck's Ashley breaking down before Victor confessing her affair with Cole.

Oh yeah, Dinah inserted herself into Edmund and Cassie's lives by becoming their surrogate. She miscarried but took part in Edmund's baby switch scheme until he locked her up and left her to die. After that I don't think they had any interaction too much after Nicole Forrester took over but I stopped watching regularly. Speaking of the 1970s GL, I was wondering about Sara McIntyre. Who were her contemporaries and what other leading ladies was she comparable too?

Thanks for sharing those 1984 videos Carl. Always like seeing young Lauren with her bad sexy self and always enjoy seeing Brenda's Jill pre-Alexis Jill phase. I had forgotten about that ladder story, I think there was big ambiguity over whether or not Jill's fall was an accident or not due to the fact the baby was possibly Jack's. I guess Jill did make up for it in the end with Billy a decade later. I'm not sure when the sainthood of Katherine began, growing up she was always a wicked old lady to me. If I had to pick a point in time when it started, my guess is when Katherine went into hiding and wound up in the homeless shelter with Mac.

The weirdest bit came from the Alden/Smith years when I think either Victor or Jack invited a Muslim businessman to a Fourth of July party and discussed with Neil what American life and freedom meant to him in light of the 9/11 attacks.

One more thing I got from this scene about Traci inquiring about Lauren from Ashley was a completely missed opportunity to do a possibly huge story--a Lauren/Brad/Ashley triangle, with Epperson as Ashley of course. IT could have come very easily together, would have been sexy, and would have created a ton of priceless drama.

Haha I loved the scene with Ashley and Traci talking about Sheila. I forget how isolated the story was, it's pretty surprising I guess it didn't all become about a certain sister of Scott......but I guess that would be one too many psychos at once.

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In addition to it being the 50th anniversary of GH, it's also the 50th anniversary of The Doctors. Too bad the show met an early end because the show always had a truly talented major cast over the years--or would we have Pamela K. Long come write for the show and make Nola the star while Reilly come aboard in 1993 to save the soap. I've always been fascinated by the fact The Doctors won the first Daytime Emmys and also had a major supercouple even prior to Doug and Julie's height.

I can't remember if this has been posted, but I'll repost again but this is from the March 1978 SOD's synopsis of what was going on the show thirty-five years ago this month(give or take):

Can some light be shed on the Vanessa/Alan/Reva triangle from late 1987? I've always been curious about the short-lived storyline cut abruptly by Kinkead's exit. I've seen the Christmas 1987 episode(all about Johnny dying!!) where Alan quietly surprises Reva with gifts but haven't been able to ever get too much information on the actual details of the story.

It was Tom's decision to leave because the show was offering her bad terms during contract negotiations so she jumped ship. One more thing I should mention is I did always like was Nick and Sharon. My biggest problem is Nick and Sharon were married for ten years (1996-2006, they celebrated their tenth I recall) but spent at least eight of them engaged in some sort infidelity story of sorts. Nick and Sharon were at their best during the Cassie story and later on in 2003 when it was Nick&Sharon vs. Victor&Nikki.

Heh I love reading this thread the most, I don't know where to start replying lol. Let me say this about Y&R's redeemed characters is what made them work best was the fact they continued to be gray characters haunted by their pasts. The two most prominent examples of this are Michael and Phyllis. For years Michael spent most over of his time hanging with the other lowlifes (ie Phyllis, Diane, Isabella) and his attempts at being good for Christine were always hampered by his selfishness and poor judgment(becoming Victor's goon in 2003). Phyllis reorganized her life but still had the edge she always carried, and always haunted by her past whether it was having nightmares upon being jail for the pool-house arson in 2002 or breaking down before Danny in 2003 about how much she has improved yet couldn't take back the past. I had enjoyed the creep-fest that was Kevin Fischer as the perp terrorized GC and found the bizarre relationship he had with Lauren quite chilling. I wasn't entirely against a redemption arc of Kevin yet the show went about it wrong on so many levels. The whole fake rescue of Lily, Colleen in 2006 and Gina in 2009 both being belittled for their criticism of Kevin, Kevin never truly owning up or even apologizing etc. Yeah Kevin saved Collen's life when Jana tried to kill the both of them but beyond that Kevin in my eyes never lost it all and his redemption was always on shaky grounds being he was always up to no good, yet somehow under LML and MAB this became comical(falling in love with Jana, gambling, Angelo & Angelina, stealing Katherine's money). Then again after 2005 both Michael and Phyllis were no longer written as tortured characters and until the past year their history was for whatever reason was swept under the rug. Maybe by doing that it made it easier to keep Kevin around for so long. Don't even get me started on the writing for Adam for the last five years. As for Y&R 2004, well what a mess. The show had its moments that year but so many things went so terrible or stupid. The Bobby/Brittney hour was unusual, the Jill/Katherine/Arthur/Harrison story ended in disaster, the less said about Malcolm's return from the dead the better. Maybe Nikki and Sharon digging through the sewers of Genoa City looking for Cameron Kirsten's body was the perfect image of the show that year. The mistakes of 2004 of course lead Smith to panic come up the oh so brilliant ideas of killing off Cassie and writing a return of Sheila, thus leading to the downfall of the show. I refuse to believe Victoria was at the creative dead end at the end of 2003. Sure Victoria hadn't been in a leading story for a good year but letting Tom get away was a big mistake on the show's behalf as Tom continued on a successful career with OLTL and B&B.

Just of out curiosity what did you guys think of Nancy Pinkerton in the role of Dorothy Connors? I know Pinkerton had some popular runs at other soaps her role on ATWT was her last soap role and didn't last a long time either. Most I've really seen is her breakdown at the trial and confession to murdering Whit. Does anyone also think the McColl family could have lasted a lot longer than they did?

Oh its the same one I got the details mixed up while posting about something else lol but it was with the Jack Kiley character who she tried to date and the he repeated tried to harass and attack her and in the middle of all of it Fletcher saved her life. It's been so long but I didn't like the story.

Vanessa and Fletcher are such an odd pairing...I hate when Vanessa is written as weak too. I think Fletcher and Vanessa paired up around the same time Vanessa was sexually assaulted in the park by a mentally ill man and decided to not press charges wanting to keep it secret and avoid attention. Then when it was exposed her assaulter got a lot of sympathy to his past and Vanessa ended up dumping Fletcher on their wedding day. I think the assaulter finally went to jail but it was just a strange story and I enjoy Vanessa more when had to tangle with Billy, Ross, Alan, Roger etc. than stories like this, or her endless comas and dying, Matt/Beth etc. Out of all the women Fletcher romanced(everyone but Reva it seems) I think the only one I liked was his relationship with McKinsey's Alex.

Looking back it seems sadly so many of the Spectra stories have been long forgotten sadly. I enjoyed the Anthony/Ivana debacle as it played out (the strange scary letters) even though it had a traumatizing climax (Sally being shot), and enjoyed it when Grant got his revenge on the Forresters by showing up at Spectra with the entire Forrester collection for sale. Actually, it's sad that so many of B&B's secondary stores have been lost even though I feel a lot them supported the show more than the main Forrester story.

That's because at the time they were still writing for Victoria, not the hot mess shell of a character they write for now. Heinle is a miscast but she has had her moments and I did like her pairing with JT in a way. It was Latham who started around 2007 writing for Heinle's strengths that weakened Victoria a lot and pairing her with Miller has been a disaster for the character. I'm surprised Victor didn't think of bringing back Cole to town to break up Billy and Victoria instead of the mess played out on screen.

According to what I have, Chuck was indeed on the show and was played by three different actors, Don Chastain, Michael Ebert, and Bob Kaliban in the late 1960s all before Jennifer first appeared.