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2 hours ago, JAS0N47 said:
FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 11/11/91-11/15/91 & 11/18/91-11/22/91:
FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 11/25/91-11/29/91 & 12/2/91-12/6/91:
Whoo hoo! GL hits No. 3 with a healthy 6.0!
Funny to see a 5-way tie for 4th place with a 5.7.
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5 hours ago, Fevuh said:
The little I’ve seen, that’s it in a nutshell. It’s fine to be free wheeling and write the show with bed hopping and marriages by the week, annulments the next week, - and on to the next. On this show it’s by the week. Sure, if that’s the show you want. Don’t be surprised that the viewers change - to expect surface level only and the reactions and emotional heartstrings aren’t there.
But this is the result. You reap what you sew and there’s no thought - why should the viewers care? And we had the “last party” with Stephanie. It’s old hat. This sours viewers more when you drag this out then - oops - Eric really just has long haul Covid and a hangnail, y’all! Thank GOD! Woo hoo!
Someone mentioned Katie. Has she cried and gone into hysterics recently? No? She will, they need to give her Emmy reel material. Anyone that got an Emmy after about 2005 to 2010 needs an asterisk next to it (*90% of the really good actors and actresses who were in this category were the victim of a cancelled show).
I try to remember there’s people on the other end of the role, but honestly - they’ve gotten a good life out of it. They phone it in 50% of the time or more. Like people I work with that still Take up salary budget but are on vacation 3 months out of the year. John will be fine I’m sure but Bold has churned out crap for years. It deserves what it gets.
There's a disconnect with the Eric storyline because as others have mentioned, the story itself is bad, and Eric was never portrayed as this strong, steadfast loyal family man. He's always been a philanderer and in the last 15 years, he's had some truly oafish moments... him being back with Donna, the horny, honey-loving younger woman is a reminder of his days being naked outside a window. No offense to the actor, but the character just doesn't give off a warm, "America's father" feeling like a Tom Hanks or whatnot, that would give the audience a cozy, gushy feeling for the character.
B&B's canvas has felt aimless ever since Stephanie Forrester died. The fact that so few of his children are showing up during this time period just emphasizes this feeling.
Oh yes, Katie needs something to cry over so Heather Tom can nudge out yet another more-deserving, often-overlooked actress in the Leading category. Katie will probably have another heart setback in 2024.
In terms of actors phoning it in nowadays on soaps, I would sooner give the cast of DAYS a pass at that, considering they have to film like 12 episodes a week within the confines of a strict schedule ("No overtime allowed!"). B&B is a half hour; even filming 2 episodes a day only puts them on par with hour long soaps during the good o' simple days of 1 Day = 1 Episode.
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19 hours ago, j swift said:
Ken Corday The Days of our Lives: The True Story of One Family's Dream and the Untold History of Days of our Lives (2010)
But, of course, times changed by the 1980s Roman Brady and Cal Winters specifically mentioned Vietnam in their backstory.
Jeezus, so one of Tom & Alice's kids was lost in the Korean War in the early 50's, and their great-grandchild David is in his twenties by the mid-70's. Just how old were Tom & Alice and when did Alice start popping out children?
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16 hours ago, j swift said:
Amusingly, I bet it would drive some fans nuts if Salem suddenly relocated from the Midwest to Massachusetts.
Well it seemed like it did from '93-'97 with Reilly's tone of writing. Plus there was once a mention during the early possession storyline of a "Nor'easter" heading their way, which wouldn't be a name used to describe an incoming snowstorm in the Illinois area...
Incidentally, I do recall in DAYS' first episode a scene with Marie and Tony, where it is mentioned that they could "drive down to Boston."
Funny how the location of some soap settings seem to change as the writers change (GL's Springfield was once referred to as the state capital, while previously being on the border of one of the Great Lakes. Oy..)
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Just now, janea4old said:
My family always put the tree up Dec. 23 or 24, and kept it up through January 6
Ah okay, for those who honor the 12 days of Christmas before taking it down at the start of Epiphany. I hear ya.
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RHONJ "Friend of" Jenn Fessler:
“I’m not afraid of Ozempic and I will tell you I have had an experience that was not good — and I’m pretty positive it was about the semaglutide — where I had to go to the hospital for an impacted bowel … and I’m still not nervous about it.” Fessler explained that one of the “side effects” of the drug can be “constipation,” which she dealt with for a while but decided to brush off.
“I was drinking no water, eating no vegetables because something that happens, a new experience for me, is being able to eat what I want even when it’s not the most healthy choices and still lose weight,” she explained. “So maybe for the first time in my life, I’m losing weight on pizza and bagels and ice cream."
What an idiot.
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7 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:
Shannon has been such an entitled pig about her DUI that I can’t have much sympathy for her.
Back up the Brinks truck to Alexis and let’s get this season rolling.
Oh I agree, I don't have sympathy for her due to her reactions and lack of accountability. I just think she's... reckless, which puts others in danger.
That said, yeah, I can't believe I'm interested in the return of Jesus Jugs, my least favorite of the All Blondes era.
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On 12/1/2023 at 8:50 PM, j swift said:
Also, is it just me, or is the whole culture celebrating Christmas for the entire month of December? It's a recipe for Xmas fatigue!
And I hope we're supposed to assume that Jada has more decorations in the other room, because that single stand of lights is a little pathetic.
Yes. We do it all month long. LOL
I actually like that in more recent years on soaps, we see the town's decorations up sooner, within a week or so after Thanksgiving. It's more realistic than seeing families trim their trees on Christmas Eve so that they can enjoy it for what, 2 days? (I'll give them the unwritten law of the Horton family being done on Dec. 24th, cuz that's a decades long tradition)
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58 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:
FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 9/16/91-9/20/91 & 9/23/91-9/27/91:
FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 9/30/91-10/4/91 & 10/7/91-10/11/91:
Nice to see GL hit the No. 4 spot, and with a healthy number earned, not just landing into 4th because others failed worse.
After such a dramatic slump across the board, it's nice to see AMC rebound and improve, ATWT rebound and stay strong, Y&R way ahead as top dog, and even Another World got itself back into the 4's, though I'm guessing that's a brief victory.
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53 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:
https://people.com/alexis-bellino-dating-john-janssen-shannon-beador-ex-rhoc-exclusive-8410750
Next season of OC is gonna be so messy. Alexis is dating John Janssen, Shannon's recent ex and is in talks to return to the show with this new relationship
Man, Bravo is dirty and the dirty people involved are dirtier. First, Sweet Tea brought on to Married to Medicine, now this.
It's like they want Shannon to drunkenly drive off a winding road over a cliff. Y'all know she's emotionally imbalanced.
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On 12/2/2023 at 11:19 AM, ranger1rg said:
The writing for Carter is so patronizing it makes me cringe.
I can see Brad Bell telling the writers "Make sure Carter is referred to as family at least 3 times so the audience knows we care about Black people. As we go around the room and let each character speak at least one line, make sure Carter gets a line, too -- and that he expresses his gratitude at being a part of the Forrester family."
Yeah, I cringed at the line where Carter said he was grateful that Eric accepted him so quickly. It's like, why wouldn't he? What would the reservation be to not do so? It rang peculiar to me.
Side Note: I guess that international money well for B&B is drying up. How many times are they going to use that truncated runway room? Another heart to heart between Katie Logan and a random intern?
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22 minutes ago, Khan said:
Yes, but at what cost? His work, for the most part, was simplistic and gimmicky. What's more, it reveals someone who, at their core, had serious psychological issues, particularly in regards to women and to sexuality. (Sorry, @Toups).
JER might have saved DAYS from cancellation at that point, but is DAYS truly the better for him having worked there? Are soaps in general truly better off because of him?
Always up for a good JER discussion, the good (1993-1997), the bad (2003-2006), and the hermaphrodite raping their own father and getting pregnant (Passions was ugly in general).
Though I was a huge fan of his DAYS 1.0 era, at the same time, it couldn't be sustained forever. Even by 1997, the main plot lines (John/Marlena/Kristen, Sami/Austin/Carrie, Bo/Hope/Bille) were mainly in a holding pattern, waiting for their bombastic summertime reveals (meanwhile, Jack & Jenn became a total non-factor with Jack stuck in prison).
Under the category of "What if?" I wonder what if Reilly had stayed beyond the Fall of 1997... I doubt we'd have gotten Swamp Girl and Princess Gina and Vivian Alamain with a remote control mood changer via wiring by tooth, but I also don't think we'd have gotten another round of epic sagas like Aremid, Maison Blance, etc. either. Once his initial stuff gets played out, he's played out.
But I suppose all this discussion is best saved for a different thread.
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1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:
Quad is about to make an early exit!
They brought her in to react to Greg and Sweet Tea and then said
Well damn, I feel bamboozled. They put her up there like a regular castmember, then give us only snippets? I know she started filming later, but didn't think she'd cut out so early.
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Get it girls! Speaking of, I attended my second Countess LuAnn Cabaret show this weekend in Chicago (I saw another superstar this weekend as well... Mariah Carey), and it was another fun, boozy night of songs and laughter. No real tea to share, other than they're hoping Bravo picks them up for a second season of Crappie Lake in another town.
During the audience Q&A (unfortunately I didn't get picked to ask a question like the last time), someone asked what Lu thought of the NuRHONY girls, and she turned around and asked for our feedback on each castmember. Jenna got the biggest applause by far. Jessel, Ubah, and Brynn got good applause. It was a mixed reaction to Erin. Sai got a BOO'ed across the board, to which LuAnn said she agreed with us.
Seats in the front! Can't wait for the next one
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Give me a win for Sharon Case, Krista Allen (cuz why not), and Robert Newman, who was overlooked too often for GL.
That, along with the In Memoriam, is what I'll be watching for.
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Just outta curiosity, does anyone know of areas in the Mountain Time Zone that had their daytime soap line-up airing at 10:30am to 2pm? I otherwise assumed Mountain would air the same as central (11:30 to 3pm). Mountain always seems to be the forgotten time zone since it affects the least amount of people in the US.
Years ago when I was a teen visiting family in the northwest corner of Iowa, their local CBS affiliate was KELO out of Sioux Falls, SD. And I recall seeing a commercial for Bold & Beautiful and they said it aired at 11:30am. I would think then that Y&R aired before it at 10:30am unless KELO aired the soaps out of order.
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17 hours ago, Taoboi said:
RHOP
Now that I have something like a few minutes...lol.
I hope everyone is well. There has been a lot going on good and bad, but I felt I needed a bit of a break. Which for me meant soaps and housewives. LOL!!!
I'm not caught up on any shows (sorry, RHOM, but I love you.
) but RHOP. And from what I can tell online, I appear to be in the minority because I've been liking it so far. Granted M2M has been hitting it out of the gate from Episode 1, but I don't mind RHOP being a little bit slower. Moreso because they did have some fallout to deal with. Thank you, RobynJuan's Roommate.Perhaps that's why I like it. I wanted to see Robyn punished for her lying, deflecting, and all around ditziness over Juan. And the fact that the cast AND Production have taken every...and I do mean EVERY...opportunity to clown, drag, and laugh at her is just what she deserves. Moreso because she NEEDS the money so she will film. And apparently...so will Juan now that he's jobless...a fact that EVERYONE has picked up on and picked on him and rightfully so.
And then there's the fallout from Gizelle vs Candiace...and how it has divided the group. Similarly to what I said about RHOA (which I also need to finish), the group is now divided into two groups it seems. And while I love this past Sunday's episode because it was giving the Reasonably Shady episode, I know they cannot keep doing what they are doing by just ignoring each other or not showing up. So God bless La Dame for being the fence that everyone has to ride...hehe...and trying to get them together. Who knew La Dame could be such a mini producer a la Kyle/Gizelle/etc. But...not vicious.
But that brings me to the nasty-ness of New Girl (who I don't like) vs Wendy. At first I liked it because it appeared to be going in the direction of a petty feud...a staple on good Housewives seasons. And the fact that Ashley was the one who started it? CLOCK IN, GIRL!!! That house ain't going to pay for itself. However, this past Sunday it appears like it's going to get nasty by throwing Wendy's mama into it...and cultural information that I'm not familiar with but am STILL sensitive to as a person...so seeing someone use it can be a slippery slope. And online already appears to be up in arms about it. But...I'll wait and see.
As for the ladies....to me...
LA DAME. If anyone has the memo, it's La Dame. I have laughed at her shading at the Roommate. I have hollered at her little side-plot with Messy Mia. But at the same time, she knows this group cannot stay divided. And the best way to get people together (and help herself from people saying she does not seem engaged) was to get busy. She's had group events. One on one scenes. Mini group scenes. She has been everywhere and been EVERYTHING.
GIZELLE. Making her daughters her storyline? I love Gizelle's daughters so I don't mind. And it's something that gives us something REAL. Who can't relate to the kids growing up...and we have watched them grow up on this show...and head to college. It resonates. And I...and yes, I'm saying it...liked that she has not at all IMHO softballed on talking about Juan and Roommate. She actually appears to be being a friend and trying to get Roommate to open her eyes to who she's with. But...alas. And I will always live for Wendy giving her dust.
ROBYN.ROOMMATE. I never thought I would see the day that I feel a dislike for a Housewife even moreso thanTeddiTerri Demarco, but here we are. Or maybe that is still too soon for me because I can still feel pity for her since we know the history, but this co-dependency is just smh. And she just seems so ditzy. Has Juan really gaslighted her this much? Well...not too much if she can go and sit with New Girl and start mess, but Heaven forbid someone aims mess back at her. As Ex Soap Opera Star would say...she needs to own it.CANDIACE. Well, I always wanted Candiace focused on her career. And we are getting that. But she's been very light this year. So far. lol. Looks like she's back next week.
ASHLEY. Smh. Still lying. BUT she's back to stirring the pot. And it's not bugging me like it did pre-pregancy. But we will see.
WENDY. Still the target? smh. I did get a hoot out of the fact that she timed her show premiere to that episode. So...using the platform like Candiace has been. I've been enjoying watching her so far.
MIA. We know I'm a Messy Mia fan. So I am happy to see her back. Just to see the fallout of her and G losing the company. And I know for sure she will give comic relief.
NEW GIRL. LINT. Okay, I take it back...I saw how she treated her husband and I thought of Dr. Simone at that S5(?) M2M reunion with her warning to the husband.
Love the rundown. I had to laugh at the "CLOCK IN, GIRL!!! That house ain't going to pay for itself." comment. Well done.
I definitely agree about the divide in this group, and how it can only go on for so long before people start getting cut from the show or the show itself gets too dark to be enjoyable (see: last season's RHONJ).
I think La Dame and Gizelle both see the bigger picture here in that the show could unravel (and people could get fired) and they need to mend fences and play nice with one another. For instance, after Season 5, you could've written off any type of friendship between Karen and Gizelle, yet they're back to laughing it up and throwing innocent digs instead of deep cuts. Clearly, Gizelle made a mess for herself with the Candiace/Chris debacle which I don't see Candiace forgiving anytime soon. And I'll watch and wait to see if Gizelle conjures up any maturity in regards to playing nice with Wendy, since Wendy is still the target person to get iced
off the showout of the group.I'm not impressed with the new girl either or what she's stirring up with Wendy's family, whether Wendy already knew about it or not.
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19 hours ago, Cat said:
First of all, apologies-- I meant Phaedra, not Porsha!
LOL aw snap, I made the same mistake!
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13 minutes ago, Faulkner said:
“Don’t let me whip your ass like your mama should’ve!” I know she gets hate, but Heavenly is one of the funniest Bravolebrities to me.
I love Heavenly! The way she slips and lets the "yo mamma" slip out every so often is hilarious. Again, I haven't seen *every* episode and did a lot of catchup via reunions, but despite what others may say here, I love all the women for what they bring to the show: Heavenly, Quad, Simone, Jackie, Toya. And I'd welcome back Mariah easily, along with Contessa or Lisa-Nicole.
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22 hours ago, Cat said:
Anyone watching the current season of M2M? I am hooked! Usually M2M is a slow burn in the early episodes, but they hit the ground running this season by jumping straight into the engagement of throwback Dr. Greg and his new fiancée.
Sweet Tea is not at all what I expected from a M2M cast member. Facially, she looks like she could be Toya's country cousin (Toya BTW seems like she's had a little face work done, but good work). Lateasha is proudly country and I like that. She's a little different from reality newbies on these shows -- first of all, spilling that she went after Greg in his DMs because she has an older-dude fetish. That one is going to bite her in the ass come reunion. Heavenly has already sized her up like a shark, but props to Lateasha for leaving her off the wedding guest list as payback. Heavenly has been crowing about how she got into the wedding anyway, but since she probably had to bribe an attendant to get that cameratime, I'd say its a hollow victory. While I'm not sure Sweet Tea is a GREAT cast member, I do think she adds an interesting dynamic. She's a fish out of water, she's not pretending that she's loaded, and she's just trying to fit in. She's not quite a pushover either, but there is a power imbalance between her and other cast members.
Quad was bragging some months ago about how Bravo reached out to come back and 'save' the show, but I'm not quite sure that's true. It's fun to see her trying to rile up the group, but she very much feels on the outside. I echo Toya's distrust of her and always have.
I'm not sure slippery Porsha fits. A lot of her shtick is so staged and contrived. I hope M2M doesn't tip too far in that direction. The other women seem to be clocking that and her shady background in a good-humoured way.
Curtis only showed up for the bachelor party? Sometimes I think he and Jackie are fully living separate lives.
M2M really is one of the best shows on Bravo IMO.
I'm watching and loving it. I agree this is the best Bravo show, outshining the Housewives for sure. I like how through all the comings and goings, you still have the core cast and in their 10th season, are still fun and interesting, the friendships are real, and it doesn't come off forced.
Yeah, Sweet Tea sure doesn't fit the mold, but she's kind of fun to watch in a trainwreck kind of way, what with her bridezilla antics, blowing up at her own sister, and just being a little clueless in general.
Also agree about Porsha. She's like a throwback to Housewives days gone by, when we actually believed her schtick was real and her quips weren't force-fed to her by producers to look witty and clever. I hope the likes of Heavenly, Simone and Jackie continue to side-eye her and call it out. M2M comes off as less edited, aside from the usual reality TV fare like Quad's perfectly producer-timed entrance to the bachelorette party.
Overall, I love the couple dynamics on this show, particularly Dr. Simone & Cecil, and Toya & Eugene. And god bless Dr. Damon for being the yang to Dr. Heavenly's yin. LOL.
Sunday nights with M2M and Potomac is currently my favorite TV night.
Side Note: Any tea as to why Dr. Contessa left the series? Was it her own choice?
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1 hour ago, Franko said:
Monty 2.0 is now very much a thing, and the audience ain't feelin' it.
Currently, they are! They're back up in the 7's! GH must really crash and burn in '91, similar to DAYS in '89.
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I know we soap fans scoff when industry insiders blame viewer erosion on cable, internet, etc. but I do wonder what the percentages of households buying cable was like between 1988 to 1990.
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7 hours ago, divinemotion said:
62 year old KKL looking like a snack in the last episodes.
She's doing it right. Subtle work done and staying fit. Well done KKL
Keep on being that soap goddess diva!
Side note: Glad to see Jennifer Gareis' work has settled and she looks like a snack too.
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14 hours ago, kalbir said:
Y&R been hitting 8+ since late May 1990. They are so far ahead of the pack.
I haven't done a deep dive into 1991-1994 ratings yet, but I'm pretty sure Y&R dominates in the sense that they are far ahead of everyone until the start of OJ. We know that Y&R dominance was threatened in the aftermath of OJ when Reilly's Days blew up.
Y&R hits 9+ a few times around early 1994, I think. One week hitting a 9.7. In fact, the majority of the soaps were on an upswing in 1993/1994 before the Ford Bronco chase...
Looking at these 1990 numbers, it's kind of shocking to see so many of the powerhouse shows wading in the 5's so quickly.
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DAYS: December 2023 Discussion Thread
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Unless she whipped one out today, which I haven't seen, I have yet to see Chanel, Allie, or anyone selling those baked goods ever pull out a phone with an attached credit card reader so that customers can actually, you know, PAY for anything.