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3 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Why are you here though if you hate the shows so much they should be cancelled?

I agree. I have my own complaints about the show, and I’m not happy with the writing, but I don’t understand posting here to say “I quit watching two years ago” or “I watched 5 minutes and turned it off;” — followed by a litany of complaints.

It’s more than valid to complain, but does that always have to be accompanied by comments that you don’t watch the show, or watch it once a month for 10 minutes? Do those posters see themselves as better than those of us who watch REGULARLY and keep hoping for a turnaround?

8 hours ago, KMan101 said:

New Nikolas looks like Ron Carlivati and Wes Ramsey had a baby.

I think he’s really good looking.

I don’t think a Paul Telfer is a bore. The writing for him has been bad. He was more than interesting when he was written as a wild man who had a mean streak and used everybody. I actually like him with Sarah, but taking away his edge was a bad move.

Tragic? Nicole’s hair. That brushed back look is HORRENDOUS.

I hate the convent stuff with a passion.

8 hours ago, Roman said:

you know, on top of his F up.....IMPO...he can't act. I can't hear a word he's saying. someone needs to tie him down and cut his hair, and tell him to stop doing McClane from Die Hard.

BTW....is Amanda connected to Hillary?

l’ve seen rumors that Amanda is connected to Hillary, but it’s sad that these exciting rumors never happen — or take so long to happen that we stop caring. Sorry, but Hillary has been walking around doing a lot of nothing, and MiM is being wasted.

Donny Boaz is not only a MAGAt, but he’s also stupid. He deleted that tone deaf tweet, but it was up for almost an entire day before deletion. He’s an idiot. By then, he’d been DRAGGED and a lot of viewers who hadn’t heard about his politics turned on him in a minute.

7 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Yes, I recall Nate and cane having words all the while Nate and Devon not talking about it themselves. Lol

 

If this is working for you, good. But you don't have to try to convince me that everything is just fine. JG is half assing this. Much like he's half assing Phyllis and MS's return. She seems like such a pointless character but that's another conversation. Me pointing it out is certainly not because I don't like Devon, Elena, Amanda, or Nate. 

I agree with your take on all of these characters and their stories — or lack of them.

Josh Griffith has the ability to make us like a character, but then does nothing with him or her, or certainly not enough. MiM’s return pumped me up because I love her, but I’m not happy with what’s been done with Amanda so far. If there’s a plan, it’s taking way too long to get to it.

Nate and Amanda have good chemistry, but even on today’s show, we should’ve seen those scenes with Nate going before the medical board. Why write him in trouble if we don’t SEE the fallout? Hearing the characters practice their speeches and then report how great Victor was at the hearing? Ugh. And then Nate gets a phone call about reinstatement? Ugh again.

Devon and Elena are going nowhere. The will? Devon would have a dozen lawyers working on it — not watching Chance make a stupid trip to the Maldives.

Billy and Kyle are going nowhere, just in circles. Theo’s story got exciting for a minute when he was declared an Abbott relation. Now what? Boring talks with Summer and Lola while bad boy Theo seems to be gone.

Nick was all guns-ho for a run for council — — and then he drops out? Huh?? Did JG switch course after only a week’s worth of episodes and drop that story? Abby again is googoo eyed over ANOTHER guy. No story there. Phyllis has no story. 
 

For a whole it looked like CLB would again be prominent. He’s disappeared. Lauren is nowhere in sight. Kevin and Chloe seemed important for a minute. Over.

i love Mark Grossman as Adam, but he’s still not in a relationship of any kind? Huh? This is a SOAP, for God’s sake. Sharon is with Rey, but it doesn’t feel like she’s really in love.

Josh Griffith DESPERATELY needs a co-writer. I still watch every day, but I definitely understand why viewers are dropping out.

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Poor MBE can't handle this awful material either. The whole stuff with Justin is so forced.

 

As for Sonny....they've always portrayed him as this gay saint while Will gets the shaft. Sonny will be whoring it with Evan very soon. Evan will be the New Paul in the triangle.

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Poor MBE can't handle this awful material either. The whole stuff with Justin is so forced.

 

As for Sonny....they've always portrayed him as this gay saint while Will gets the shaft. Sonny will be whoring it with Evan very soon. Evan will be the New Paul in the triangle.

Yep, the Justin and Kayla stuff was so bad. I watched Justin cry over Adrienne twice just to get my WTF fix for the day.

Evan is cute as hell, and Freddy is THE worst person to saddle him with — literally and physically. Freddy can’t get comfortable playing gay scenes after all this time. There’s never any spark or sense of heat.

And Freddy and Will having that awkward prison conversation? Man, that was horrific. I’ve seen people who hate each other with more chemistry.

1 hour ago, xtr said:

Some people prefer Sonny's looks to Will. I do.

Not me. I complain a lot about Chandler because of his smirking and lazy acting, but he’s better looking than Freddie by a mile. 
 

I don’t see this Evan being so hot for Freddie, tbh. I also think FS is a weak actor.

I like openings on shows. I think they make a statement. The major networks lost something when they went to these 7-second bumper card openings. Look at the cable networks— they know a good open can define a show and lend prestige to it. 
 

GH’s present opening doesn’t work for me because the cast photos look as if they were taken by 5 different photographers. Some have weird smiles that look like the lips of the actor are distorted. Some actors are all  teeth,  painted with the whitest paint ever. Some of the photos are great, which makes the bad ones look even worse.

4 hours ago, Fevuh said:

Love it. They won't get it.  

I will never understand someone who delights in a show’s falling ratings.

I can understand objections about the writing and everything else. I get it that some viewers are unhappy. But ENJOYING ratings that are falling? 
 

UGH.

No way that “vat of acid” is really a vat of acid.

19 minutes ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Tell us how you really feel

LOL OK, I like Adam, Nick, and Victor.

4 hours ago, Fevuh said:

Watched 5 minutes today - hoping for a Hope rape and seeing Thomas naked.  Sorry, not sorry.  Hope is unbearable.  

I agree. I cannot stand her and want Thomas to win bigly.

That “Ave Maria” singing at the beginning of the wedding ceremony was just awful. 
 

So is the writing. Why did Lani wait until then to stop the wedding? Why hadn’t  someone grabbed Gabi’s damn phone? 

Why is Nate so damn angry with Victor over his medical license? Victor didn’t force him or twist his arm — it was Nate’s own decision. His anger at Victor now seems really displaced.

At first I thought it was brave of Jessica Tuck to go without makeup — but after 5 minutes, I got over that, and thought “Damn, get some foundation on her STAT!” She looked really rough.

Kelly Monaco cut back on the makeup, but not completely. Smarter way to go.

And yeah, I’m callin* Jessica Tuck stunt casting at this point. Frank V. NEVER knows when to get rid of a character. He keeps bringing them back, and it’s all forced and awful.

33 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

I liked the costumes. But it was weird. That a Halloween party. Had no Halloween music. As always everything on GH feels flat and boring. 

It really was flat for a supposed Halloween party. No energy at all.  And Nina is now more annoying than ever. Honestly, I think Cynthia Wattros is worse than Stafford in the role.

1 hour ago, John said:

Rumor going around is that Marcus Coloma is Nikolas

Here is his IMDB with many pics

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1324844/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

I'm ok with him based on one closeup LOL. Dayum! And he does NOT look 41.

I highly doubt that Michelle Stafford made story and coupling demands before signing a contract to return. Rumors like that take on a life of their own and spread like wildfire, but there’s no evidence to any of that.

if I’m to believe what I read on soap social media, at least a half dozen Y&R actors make regular demands to the writers and producers. It’s bullshit.

Nothing wrong with the Theo retcon.

Brooke and Hope are pathetic and disgusting. Thomas is nuts, but they’re just as crazy — and they have no right to his kid.

The best part about the Lane departure scene is how cold it was — the writers clearly screwed him. Lily left without even hugging Cane goodbye. It could not have been any less emotional. 
 

End of an era? LMAOOOOOOO 

All the courtroom stuff was deadly to me.

Monica was written like an idiot, Roger Howarth’s stoic look was nauseating, and Kin Shriner was so laughably over the top I couldn’t believe it. I mean, I love legacy characters, but he was really terrible.

11 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Faints....

Seriously? That is not a good photo. The angle is off and CM’s nose looks weird.

3 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Freddie's chunky again.  I see many chins.

I see Freddie's chins, but I also see Chandler grinning in a serious moment. Good looking guy, terrible actor who no one will get in line.

36 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

It was also painfully obvious on-screen IMO that he was not comfortable having BM as a love interest. It’s was almost like he found it offensive they would even pair him with her.

I already said that. He didn't commit to those scenes with Beth, and that's on him. Look, I'm not defending the guy at all. I just reject the notion that these actors talk to TPTB and get their way. If anything, I think execs saw that the Trane stuff wasn't working, and RIGHTLY blamed it on Goddard -- then deciding to switch course and dump his ass.

Social media/Twitter do matter, but I don't believe these shows are hyperventilating and changing things every time Twitter hyperventilates. I do think Twitter can make a difference, as with Mishael Morgan. There was SUSTAINED outcry after she was cut and also a substantial drop in the ratings. Goddard will not cost Y&R any ratings points.