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A new HW, and this show still looks like it’s written by Frank on the fly.

8 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

Fans hated the work of a man who was not suited for this show, did not understand it, and whose previous work on other soaps had not been highly regarded either.

 

Complaining about yet ANOTHER bad choice by Sony and CBS is NOT "complaining just to complain." It is justifiable criticism by viewers who are fed up by the network's and sponsor's continued, repeated, endless incompetent decisions.

 

Back in the day, GH viewers routinely lambasted ABC for hiring one set of atrocious writers after another for their show. But when Gloria Monty and Douglas Marland were chosen to run Port Charles, the audience did not complain. They cheered (and the ratings soared) because the network had finally made the right moves. 

 

Fans don't want to watch idiotic dreck on daytime TV just to complain about it. What they want is the kind of serials they used to get in days of yore: well-produced, well-written, quality drama. Soap fans have not had that in about YEARS now. The fact that their chorus of disapproval is getting louder as the years go by is understandable.

Thanks for reminding us that good writers and producers can save a show — as they did in the mid 1980s.

Those glory days are gone and are never coming back. Either enjoy what we have left (with some complaining on the side) or walk away.

No matter what changes are made, ratings are NEVER soaring again for any of the soaps.

Yep, any hint of bisexuality has to be with females on soaps.

SSH was REALLY over the top when Julie had her hospital scene with Maggie. I don’t mind a little camp, but my God.

Y&R isn’t unwatchable. That’s ridiculous hyperbole.

On 9/20/2019 at 8:50 PM, AdamNewmanFan said:

Eh i like theo and amanda.

I still like the show though. Its boring but its much better than mals version to me. I get if some people dont though. It is what it is.

 

I agree with you. It’s flawed (as are all the soaps), but I still think it’s the best soap airing, and I’m enjoying it these days. I’m glad Mal is gone

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Isn't Ryan Carnes gay though in IRL? Him kissing another man would be a pics a cake for him. I say hire two gay actors to play a gay couple on soaps. 

Cranes is rumored to be gay, but Parry Shen, who plays Brad is straight. Regardless, they’re ACTORS. It shouldn’t require two gay actors to play a gay couple realistically.

The problem lies with Chandler Massey and Freddie Smith —. and a directing and production team that allows them to get away with crap.

13 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Did Y&R actually air that? Wow....tragic...

That clip is really sped up — that is not what aired, and it actually played pretty well. 

54 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

If an actor playing a gay character isn't willing to actually kiss another guy on the lips, it's time to recast. It's not like Freddie and Chandler are anything special in the acting department anyway. Will and Sonny have horrible chemistry and the chin kisses make it even worse.

I completely agree with you. It’s laughable to say that a lot of straight guys kiss this way when they play gay characters. That is just not true. Any self-respecting show would have directed them to kiss like real people kiss or fire them.

GH is a mess, but have you noticed Lucas and Brad kiss? It looks real, and passionate. They show affection to each other with subtle, meaningful touches.  Will and Sonny? There’s nothing. They may as well be strangers.

GH needs a complete lighting overhaul, I know that much.

The HD with this bright lighting brings out the worst in every cast member over 45. I mean, some of these people look really rough. 

6 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Until Chandler decides to do more than use a smirk for every scene(emotion), then Will can just not be seen much 

Thank you.

8 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Yeah he was good. Grossman is fine too just a bit too evil and on too much.

I loved Justin Hartley as Adam, but I LOVE Adam Grossman. Gotta admit it.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

 

That song tho.  Not only did it sound very shrill to me, but...come on...they couldn't track down an old audio of Doug singing "The Look of Love," or even "Always"?

 

 

When the best thing I can say is, "RS has a better wig on," you know the s**t is dull.

SOOOO TRUE about the song they used. My GOD, that was awful. 

4 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Unemployed Sonny  in his Goodfellas suit. Will in a long sleeve red flannel shirt in summer recapping. While standing in their favorite spot in Uncle Vic's living room. Not even RS as New Auntie Viv woke them up. CM looked adorable as always. Sonny had a new ugly haircut. Which makes him look like Eddie Munster.

 

 

Will and Sonny — the most boring gay people in the world. Will has the smiling smirk thing down, and Sonny looks like every reject on Jerry Falwell’s dating list.

They aren’t funny, they aren’t campy, they are interesting, they aren’t anything.

Wardrobe for the party is excellent. Every woman looks incredible, and the guys do, too. Sharon Case in that yellow? Wow.

i thought Case and Sean Dominic were THE highlights at playing wasted. Both made me  

4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

I can’t watch Monica grieve any more.

 

The character deserves better.

How many times will we see Monica talking to a different person she thinks is her son? Just awful writing.

1 hour ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Nah atleast imo. I find them interesting.

It is wonders victors new pills can be taken with the ones for epilepsy no problem

Yeah, I’m fine with Theo and Zoe, too. The problem is a couple like [!@#$%^&*], not Theo and Zoe. 

Btw, The Grand Phoenix just isn’t grand enough. That’s their main lobby? Sorry, not big enough and not expensive looking at all. And the pool table? Please.

15 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:

I saw a recent clip of Maurice Benard as Sonny. He takes 5 years just to get one word out. How excruciatingly painful to sit through.

MB forgot more lines today in his scene with Carly about adopting Dev. Painful.

I’m not feeling Robin Strasser either. Louise S is sorely missed.

9 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Disagree. It is what it is. 

I agree with you. Blaming Mark Grossman and Michelle Stafford for the ratings drop is ridiculous, especially when you’re absolving the Rosales family at the same time.

i have no problem with complaints about Y&R, but when they come from someone who constantly posts “I watched 2 minutes and changed the channel,” I have to give a side eye. 

1 hour ago, RavenWhitney said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-young-and-the-restless-teriah-kiss-is-one-of-tvs-best-lgbtq-moments-of-the-year?ref=home

To me, that’s just bullshit. They get so little airtime and have no story, so a quick kiss is meaningless to me.

And notice how styled Vinnie’s hair is LOL

The whole thing is like bad gay porn.

The actor playing Papa Rosales is TERRIBLE. They hired an AWFUL actor who spends his time grinning.

We’re back to the repetitive scenes after one week of good story. 

I tweeted that I was tired of the masks, and Camila Banus gave me a LIKE.

I’m tired of the masks.

Enough already.

I’ve just seen the Friday US show, but again it was a “Lola is so wonderful” lovefest. Just awful. We’re told over and over how great she is, but never shown it. That’s why all the nice wedding touches meant so little to me.

The actor cast as Papa Rosales? Not very good. I know it’s just one scene, but that was weak. All these actors in California and that is the best they could find?