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So exactly why was Paul fired?

The anniversary open could have been charachter sketches (like the late 70s/early 80s) which transform into live pictures (like the 88-99 intro). Or they could have re-created the jazzy red intro maybe with a different color like gold instead of red for the 50th. Instead we get a windows movie maker intro with a horror movie font. I wonder if the cast can tell how awful it looks. This is easily one of the worst soap intros of all time. It really lifts GH's off white epilepsy opening out of the gutter. Idk how soaps are allowed to come on the air with such poor quality. Audience loyalty is truly strong. I had a feeling Y&R might drop the ball in some way for the 50th, hopefully GH doesn't disappoint. Their 50th celebration in 2013 was epic.

The whole Brenda may have slept with Michael thing was odd and out of left field considering she knew him as a child. That is true, most of the characters for Brenda to play off of are gone. Jason, AJ, Robin, Jax. She would have to go against Nina and maybe have some interactions with Sam or Drew, IDK. Leslie Charleson needs to make an appearence assuming she's well and so does Tony Geary. Now that COVID is over I wonder if they'll allow Steve Burton to return. That would be a perfect opportunity for him to be paired with Brenda now that Britt is gone. It would have made more sense to say Jason is missing than presumed dead--yet again.

Eric went way too hard in his comments and needs to calm down. Eva is a decent actress and her Isabella role was a highlight of the early 2000s. I recently saw a CBS Sunday Morning profile on Eva Longoria with no mention of her time on Y&R despite it being a CBS show. Eva has always struck me as someone embarrased by her time on soaps (ironic because a nightime comedy/drama soap made her a household name). That in contrast to Kelly Ripa , Judith Light or Julianne Moore. Cant find the clip but Eva seemed coy and embarrased when the bathtub/knife scene with Christine was played on the Late Show w. David Letterman. I would understand earlier in her career if she embelleshed her daytime roots because of showbusiness bias. Now now that she's established I wished she'd embrace her Isabella role more. Soaps do get an unfair rep. Crappy primetime shows, scenes, or actors dont drag down the entire medium. Soaps on the other hand get disparaged as a whole based on a few examples. (Today's quality however doesn't help this perception at all).

I can see why GH would jump at the chance to have a hollywood star on but the direction of the plot was confusing. To top it off they had the former Todd Manning jump into Franco's role as a former rapist turned romantic lead.

Maybe if he were playing John McBain I could see him with Liz and Sam.

Boy was Peter wrong about daytime dramas getting better as a result of tightening production. Susan Picks a scene from the other day☹️

It would be interesting if they said Brooke had a sex addiction to explain the amount of scandals she's been in from "following her heart".

Off topic. Maura West in style and acting is selling the golden era soap diva camp. I could see her fitting into the 70s and 80s era.

Name an actor/charachter that had great chemistry with several (more than two) romantic pairings. Hopefully this isn't a topic already. Basically the opposite to characters that never had a good romantic lead. GH Steve Burton: Jason had chemistry with Brenda, Karen, Eobin, Keesha, Carly, Sam and Britt. Y&R Don Diamont: Brad had chemistry with Dru, both Ashelys, Jill, Nikki, Victoria, Cassaundra, Sharon, Diane, and Lauren. Didn't see much of his Olivia storyline. AMC Susan Lucci: She had great chemistry with Adam, Dimitry and Jackson. Didnt see much if her other relationships.

I was tempted to say this, but I do think this was one of B&B's last gold era storylines before it's decline in 2003.

GH Franco & Liz/Carly. GH dragged down Elizabeth and further lowered Carly trying to redeem Franco. A man that caused Michael to get raped in prison and who insinuated that he raped Sam.

So soap writers ever think, "it's enough for them to date, marriage is unnecessary?" lol.

Had this thought because I mentioned his named in a different thread. How did you all feel about James Franco's stints on GH.

Brenda Epperson was great with Brad and decent with Victor. The blade pairing is what I need to look more into. Eileen & Shari's Ashley's on the other hand... Y&R Jess Walton's Jill. Outside of John and Rex did she sizzle with anyone? Manye that young glo by jabot producer guy, I forget his name.

Life has come full circle because now some primetime shows pulling in numbers like 3-4 million which is around the audience Y&R and B&B pull in.

Good too see some older clips in HD. Some of the material looks less dark and shadowy than i remember once digitized. Aside from the actors choosing their favorite moments, it seems like the same clips always come up when the show does rememberace periods. Prime example l, Michael's proposal to Lauren.

Name a charachter or actor who you never bought in a romantic pairing (or) several romantic pairings. B&B: I never cared for any of Stephanie's romantic pairings outside of Eric. She seemed too tough of a charachter to be in a relationship. Y&R: Eileen Davidson's Ashley or Peter Bergman's Jack never really sold it in any of their relationships. The only couple pairing of Jack's I can say I cared about was Nikki.

Name a charachter from one show that would also fit in on another soap. Erica from AMC could work on either B&B or Y&R. I could see Erica going to to toe with Stephanie Forrester or arguing with Nikki over Victor. GH Jason would definately fit in on 2000s era OLTL especially with endless crime stories and John McBain.

OLTL- Starr & Cole? Based on reading YouTube comments from that era, many viewers complained that teens were taking over the show. For the poster that said Victor and Nikki...there were a few charhters who got pummeled to facilitate their union. Namely Jack and Diane. Nikki pretty much wasted Paul's time in 2009 just to pine after Victor. Maybe Ashley in the late 2000s? Would you say the a couple pairing ate the show?

There was a time we hated pre-emptions. These days it doesn't matter. Y&R has done it to the death with alcoholism. Nikki, Katherine, Neil, Phillip III. Drugs, pills and sex exist too. Mix it up a bit. At least they tried gambling with Billy--not that it was interesting though.

In a contest of a-moral male leads, Todd was defintely worse than Sonny. Marty's rape and the dead baby lie alone gives Manning the edge. There was a stark contrast between how animated TSJ was in 2003-04 versus later in his run. TSJ appeared checked out and non chalant in the late 2000s compared to Howarth's 1998+ animated and comical style. Tea and Blair looked like two women who had a toxic addiction to Todd.

Who do you all think fit better into the show dominating trio of Sonny, Carly & Jason? Courtney or Sam? It's pretty telling that Sam, once the second female lead on the show is now nearly irrelevant given that her relationship with Jason is over. The writers stalled too much after Burton returned in 2017. By that time the pairing followed by Monaco's acting felt dull and tired.

Tell me more about Jack and Katie/Janet. I only remember a little from the final years of ATWT. B&B: Liam & Hope/Steffy. That triangle was so repetitive and dull that it sucked the life out of an already troubled soap. It doesn't help that Liam isn't a strong male lead to command years of fighting between both women. Ridge/Taylor/Brooke was overdone but they were much better television. OLTL- Where do you all stand on Todd & Blair's effect of the show.(both RH and TSJ versions).

Name a couple whose relationship came at the expense of several other charachters, perhaps even the show itself. Easy answer: Sonny & Carly ate GH to detriment of several other charachters.