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  1. I happened to find, via the Wayback Machine, an interesting PC fansite that ran up through 2007, and even included fan-fic scripts for a continuation past The Gift: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.portcharlesexplosion.com/ Does anyone remember this site? And if so, does anyone know what happened to the webmaster of this site after he closed things down?
  2. The arc era of PC gets a lot of hate on this board, which I personally feel is unfair. However, the question I pose is this: which was more ridiculous in adding supernatural elements to the show: PC or Baywatch Nights?
  3. Well, the question is, which show became more ridiculous when they began putting in supernatural elements. The choice is between PC and Baywatch Nights.
  4. Now, honestly, let's do a little comparison here. Which was more patently ridiculous when supernatural elements were introduced? PC or Baywatch Nights?
  5. I can imagine that for the crossover idea, there would be definite red herrings and misdirection, and the hints about Caleb would be more subtle in AMC and OLTL, but more blatant when entering GH proper. This way, there's just enough deniability for the "non-supernatural" people. The crossover main appeal would be in seeing the characters of the different shows interacting and being on each other's turf. Surely that would've been a ratings bonanza. I'm also under no illusions that PC wouldn't have lasted anywhere near as long as the big 3 soaps. But getting it to a solid decade sounds about right.
  6. During some of the pre-Tainted Love arcs, yes, Serena was there. Appearances did become a bit more sporadic afterwards. I can understand what you thought regarding The Gift, but I think it was in the last two or three weeks that it began heating up once more, especially in ending with Caleb and Livvie's wedding (part deux), Rafe and Alison's wedding, and Jamal discovering Imani and her being a werewolf. These were all interesting threads, and, if I'm being honest, I was pissed at how GH tried to revisit this in 2013. It pleased the pre-arc PC fans in saying "yay, no supernatural crap!", but it really irked those who felt the arcs were when the show got really good. After all, the show did get talked about more during the arcs, and the critics gushed over it, especially after Tainted Love, so they had to be doing something right. I seriously doubt ABC would interfere so much to get paid or canned reviews when everyone was praising it to heavens like this. Honestly, arc-era PC is my favorite soap ever. It's the show that intrigued the most to where I felt "I want to see how this turns out and stick to the end," compared to everything else. Maybe it's because it reminds me of what was done in the past with Hercules and Xena, or in the future with American Horror Story, so PC appealed to those sensibilities of mine. I could honestly see where, if somehow the show was revived in the future, it would actually be easy to pick up exactly where it left off and ignore the 2013 GH storyline altogether. P.S. The idea for Parallel isn't entirely mine, but it came from a YouTube video where someone made a custom PC intro, and this was the idea for a fanfiction that was either never written, or is now lost because many PC fan sites no longer exist. And of course, the Stevie Nicks idea came from seeing this exact scenario happen in AHS Coven, which is my personal favorite season. The Rosemary's Baby scenario also played out in the current season, AHS Apocalypse, which is a crossover or Murder House and Coven.
  7. I'd also like people to give the response I especially hoped for when I made this thread: what people think of the arc ideas I posted, and any ideas they themselves had. Still hoping to hear from you all.
  8. Then why did the critics rave over the show, especially during the arcs? Tainted Love was reviewed as such by Star-News in Wilmington: "Its well-placed edginess always underscores the danger. It was riveting. So was this story. We did not want it to end." The Youngstown, Ohio Vindicator said: "The series clipped along at an amazing pace and viewers became intrigued as more fantasy elements such as vampires and time travel were added to the mix. The show became the Dark Shadows of our time, and although the ratings remained low, it continued to grow." How do you explain that?
  9. Why did the critics respond much better to the show when they switched to the arcs? Arguably, the show became much more talked over and the critics gushed over it, including a great deal of Emmy buzz. In addition, the show switched from being GH's kid sibling to having an identity of its own. I see only two real reasons the ratings didn't improve: the show was still stuck in an awful time slot (who in their right mind thought a young show should go head to head against Y&R and be able to win that?), and a lack of crossover material with GH. If events in both shows impacted each other, that would have made more people tune in.
  10. As the title suggests, create your own ideas of what kind of arcs could have been created for PC after The Gift. The following are my ideas: -The Crisis: Livvie is conflicted over carrying Caleb's child, Rafe and Alison are now expecting, Jamal wants into Imani's world, and Lucy, continuing her quest to eliminate vampires, discovers a witch's coven. -Parallel: Serena discovers a gateway to an alternate dimension where her mother is alive, but every other character is acting differently -Exposure: PC/GH crossover arc (events influence each other in both shows) in which Caleb and Sonny become allies of convenience, and Lucy receives unexpected help from Stevie Nicks -Dark Shadows: Lucy and the others uncover a shared secret history of Port Charles being connected to Barnabas Collins and his world -Desperation: Caleb extends his aims to the entire ABC Daytime universe, and the characters of all shows interact with each other, with events spanning all series -Hope: The "proper" finale of PC, where all remaining threads are fully resolved so as to wind down the action.
  11. Here are ideas of my own in terms of creating several arcs past "The Gift." -The Crisis: Livvie is conflicted over carrying Caleb's child, Rafe and Alison are now expecting, Jamal wants into Imani's world, and Lucy, continuing her quest to eliminate vampires, discovers a witch's coven. -Parallel: Serena discovers a gateway to an alternate dimension where her mother is alive, but every other character is acting differently -Exposure: PC/GH crossover arc (events influence each other in both shows) in which Caleb and Sonny become allies of convenience, and Lucy receives unexpected help from Stevie Nicks -Dark Shadows: Lucy and the others uncover a shared secret history of Port Charles being connected to Barnabas Collins and his world -Desperation: Caleb extends his aims to the entire ABC Daytime universe, and the characters of all shows interact with each other, with events spanning all series -Hope: The "proper" finale of PC
  12. Now, I really would like to know this: does anyone have any idea of what would have been done in future arcs? I want to hear ideas of what might have happened.
  13. Well, they may be gone, but the people that have been running their positions since aren't doing much better, and are effectively still carrying out their policies. Therefore, Frons and Sweeney are basically still in charge by proxy. Simply put, ABC and Disney Channel need fresh energy and new blood. There are signs of life, to be sure, with the The Good Doctor, The Conners and the pending revival/sequel series of NYPD Blue. I think that can easily be extended to ABC Daytime as well. CBS is doing very well, as Y&R is still getting lots of views, and CBS Daytime is throwing a lot of money at it as well as streaming support for it, and old episodes of cancelled series like As The World Turns and Guiding Light. ABC should learn from their example and do likewise with GH, AMC, OLTL, maybe even Port Charles. As is taken from the Save AMC & OLTL Facebook group: On Soap Opera Network, they today have a story where CBS Daytime Executive Angelica McDaniel is quoted about the future of Y&R. She said of Y&R (the quotes posted are trimmed a tad from the full story.) "We have this award-winning, ratings-generating, money-making show, and it really adds to the value of CBS." She says Y&R is making money. All the current soaps in production make money. AMC, OLTL, ATWT and GL all made money. In the case of Brian Frons and ABC, he simply thought he could air cheaper daytime shows and get the same ratings. Boy was he wrong... Now let's see what McDaniel of CBS said about streaming:"The Young and the Restless is also one of the top streamed shows on CBS.com and as trends evolve, we are aware of our viewers and we're making shows readily accessible so they can get their fix and follow their stories." So how about that? CBS not only is behind their current soaps but also believe in the online market. ABC is also dabbling in online success with GH. GH is always within the top 5 streamed shows on ABC.com, and recent GH episode collections featuring Jason, Sam, Sonny, and Carly have placed #1 online. At this point ABC just needs to be aware of what is sitting right in front of their faces. Between ABC.com & Hulu, they have plenty of space to air our shows. If ABC ever wants to be #1 in Daytime again they must actually do something different. They will at some point learn that placing cheap duds on air doesn't work. As for Horn, he clearly is not the leader Disney needs. He came in saying he could "calm the waters", but he only leaves behind drama behind him. He wants to be seen as this morally upstanding figure, but will stab allies in the back to do so. The films he personally puts his support under don't perform well, and he takes credit for those that do. He fetishizes Disney's family friendly image to a ludicrous point to where he's going to squander plenty of opportunities that will come with the Fox merger. If I was involved in Disney, I would be openly questioning Horn's leadership and his judgment on many items, not merely Gunn's termination. Even Jeffrey Katzenberg and Michael Eisner at their worst wouldn't made such rash judgment as this.
  14. Why has ABC suddenly been airing older GH episodes, complete with an announcement to air the New Year's Eve '97 episode this upcoming New Year's?
  15. Supernatural elements have been shown to work in soaps, as Dark Shadows has demonstrated. In many ways, PC was stuck being GH's kid sibling until the arcs. Arguably, the arcs kept the show around longer, and some might feel that they'd work even better today in the post-Twilight world. Why did the critics enjoy the arcs more and soon have Emmy buzz building? I'm also saying, that when you have a series known for elaborate kidnapping plots, faked deaths, bouts of amnesia, plastic surgery to "hide identities", lengthy comas, and a premiere episode involving POWER DRILL SURGERY, it really isn't that much of a leap.
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