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Am up to episode 1372. Can Ken George Jones just die already? Isn't his 6 month contract up yet? I can already see where this is headed. Roger is going to get blamed for his death - a nurse stood in the background for almost 5 minutes the other day with a concerned look on her face as Roger made his rounds with Ken. I predict that it will play into the "favor" that Barry is going to call in to Faith in return for him not pressing charges against her for hitting him with her car. Except she didn't hit him; it was Delia who made it look like it was Faith. The Labine's really have hit their limit with storylines, haven't they? In positive news though, I'm loving the flirtation between Michael and Rae. He's SUPER dreamy, and I'm loving his character more and more. It's a fun Pygmalion storyline with the two of them. Kimberly having the role taken away from her and being made understudy? The new lead actress should watch her back. (And her legs...I think someone is about to break them.) I can see how people would have complaints around this time in regards to the Ryan family....they're gone! The only child still in NYC is Frank. We rarely see Maeve and Johnny anymore. Everything these days revolves around Barry Ryan/Delia and KGJ/Jill. I'll be glad when they move on from these storylines. (However, since I'm watching old school soap, I don't expect them to move on for at least a year. HA!)

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Not even Heather Locklear?

Thanks for sharing that! I had never seen it either. I remember all of The Colbys' ads where one character was talking while the camera panned over parts of their face and body. (Caufield got a magnificent shot of his bicep in his. HAHA)

What does that mean?

Wow! I've never seen someone else on this board who loves HB as Craig!! IMO, he was absolutely fantastic. Brilliant even! He had chemistry with every woman they paired him with. He was sexy as hell. He's a great actor and he really took the role and ran with it. And yes, he (and the entire cast) knocked it out of the park with Bryant's death storyline. Now that I've watched what exists of SB's Craig in his first run up to '87, I can understand that, if someone grew up with him, and was already particularly enamored with his portrayal of the role, they would have an issue with HB. It is rare that any of us like a replacement actor when we have become attached to a particular person playing a role. For instance, I'm so attached to ED as Margo that every other actress just seems to be "playing" Margo to me. However, I enjoy both SB and HB in the role of Craig. And I agree - Liz and Hunt could go at it with the best of them. I absolutely adored watching the two of them together and look forward to getting back to the time of the show. I should get there around 2024. LOL

Alas, 11-1-85 is the only episode from Nov 85 on YouTube. I've done an extensive search! If someone finds anything else, please post it!

Aha. and thanks for the Spoiler Alert! I put my hand over the screen once I saw that so that I couldn't read the rest!

Ah, sorry, I misread your original post. I see what you were asking now. Others may be more helpful but, as I just watched all that exists of 1985 (that I could find) last year, I"ll do my best. October 16 is on the Lily and Holden DVD set and still has Marie in it. I don't think the episode where she dies exists on YouTube, IIRC. Doing a search for "ATWT 1985" will bring up the few videos that exist of that time. Several people have put them into playlists. I took a break from writing this and went to my ATWT 40th Anniversary Scrapbook - it states that Marie died on the evening of the Halloween party that year. I know 11-1-85 exists on YouTube so I'd check that out first. Good luck!

Yes, she is, I believe, the first person murdered in the Douglas Cummings storyline.

Except that her character had changed from that character. She's no longer the Delia of IK. RE and the writers had changed Delia and now they've had the character regress in a major way. I no longer care about Delia or what happens to her. Send her off to jail - no sympathy for character whatsoever. And I grew to love Delia. It's an incredibly disappointing regression of a character.

Thanks!

My only knowledge of Tom's pre-1979 past is from reading the Soaps and Serials books. Did Tom actually age from 2 yrs old to 18 years old within a year or so on the show?

Wow. delia PURPOSEFULLY runs over Barry with her car and sets up a drunken, passed out Faith for it?????? Um.....You can't explain that away. You can't make me care ONE OUNCE for Delia again. That character is as dead to me as Jillian with her back and forth on Frank. I see what people mean about the first 5 years of Ryan's Hope are wonderful but that it goes down hill after that. I'm sad to say that I'm clearly in the downhill part. I can't even see how this could play out where anyone would care about Delia again. She needs to be in jail. She needs to never be heard from again. What on EARTH were the writers thinking??????

Alas, I don't have that information. We rarely discussed her past. I have no idea if she and Chris even kept in touch after the show. **Edited to add:*** the only thing I remember her saying about her time on LOL was she was such a newbie to NYC, it was a wonderful learning experience for her, and that Chris was just as nervous as she was most of the time. Then it came time for her to start making me break down and cry for 3 hours. HAHA! Ah, acting class memories......

Oof. I have to say I'm in the minority on HBS. (I'm only up to September '87 though - perhaps I'll change my opinion as I keep watching.) Her acting, to me, is not good. When Margo is at a normal level, all is fine, but when the tears have to come......if my husband is in the room, he has to get up and leave. Same thing whenever Sierra is "crying". LOL My hubby would watch ATWT with me, off and on, when he and I first lived together, but he's having a difficult time supporting me watching the '80's. From what little I've seen of MC as Margo, I have to say I loved her in the role. (I pretty much love everything she does though.) ED will always be my preferred Margo though. She *is* Margo to me. The others only seem to be *playing* Margo.

Yes, thanks for sharing! Always interesting to read interviews from the stars of Dynasty. He comes across as being bitter about a lot of things, but I suppose feeling as if you have to live a lie your whole life will do that to you.

Thanks for mentioning that. I had no idea she also popped up on RH. I hope to see those episodes at some point. Am currently around 1350, I believe. In fact, I should get off this and go watch "today's" episode. :-)

Yes, that it is Elizabeth. She was one of my professors at The Actors Studio Drama School. In case the articles don't mention, she had a quick battle with cancer. I so wish more of her time on Love of Life was available online. I had seen that video before, and in fact, sent it to her while still at school. She had very fond memories of working on the show, and with Chris.

WTF?! The audience just saw some older greek woman caring for a passed out Craig!! I don't necessarily want any spoilers or anything, but I had to come on here to mention it. My jaw actually dropped open. No wonder it didn't feel final to you - the writers let you know that he was still alive! I can already tell this storyline is going to frustrate me. (In a good way) Other things currently happening: Margo is avoiding Tom while sleeping with Hal in Greece. Casey's ex girlfriend is around stirring up trouble. Lily is on the run and Dusty and Holden are on a race to see which one can get to her first. The one disappointing thing to me in watching 1987 is that there are barely any episodes that explain what the heck is going on with Ducan/the castle/dead people/James? I can't follow it. I've grown to love Shannon over this past year that I started watching older ATWT and I loved Duncan immediately. (he's just too gorgeous and full of himself to not love him.) July and August (I'm just starting July now) seem to have very scattered episodes available so I don't have much hope of discovering anything. Once I've gone through there, I'll look through the 40th anniversary book and piece it together. It's tough for me to read it because it's not written chronologically through the year. Spoilers abound! Still, I'm incredibly grateful to everyone on YouTube who have posted so much stuff. I have several old VHS tapes that are labeled ATWT. I've probably got 20 episodes scattered through 2000-2006. My husband recently got me a digital converter and I plan on going through there to discover if I happen to have any episodes that don't exist on YouTube. If so, I'll happily post on there in order to add them to the bunch. I know each era of ATWT has its fans and I'd love to help others explore or revisit the show as I've gotten to do!

I would've been the same way right now if I hadn't read that Bryce had left the show. Already, I was thinking to myself "Maybe Bryce needed a vacation - he's been gone for a week now." For some reason, I had it in my head that he was on the show until '89. But I know that he's on The Facts of Life in the '88-'89 season so he clearly had to have left ATWT earlier. I do like how the show keeps characters around for months without the actor present. Steve has been gone for over 6 months now but he's constantly mentioned or Betsy will be speaking to him on the phone, etc. Soaps quit doing this sometime in the mid aughts, I think? It really helps Oakdale feel like a town. A town that I desperately want to live in.

Season 4 may be one of the worst. Peter de Vilbis AND Krystle's assistant at Denver Carrington were two of the worst characters in the series' run. The writers no longer knew what to do with poor Mark. Also, Kirby always got on my nerves. I can tolerate her in Season 3 but in Season 4, I just want to smack her in the face every time she speaks.

"Let go of her! Let go of her - she's your BABY!!!!!" Holy Hells - but that just came out of the blue and shocked the hell out of everyone, didn't it? It was well worth the 8 month wait that it took me to get through the existing YouTube episodes of the story. I need to process. And I'm so upset that Craig is gone. I had no idea. I try to keep myself as spoiler free as possible so I didn't know he was leaving this year (1987 is where I am) but someone made a comment on one of the YT videos that said he would be presumed dead for awhile. And just when he and Sierra were finally together, too. (Not that I have a big investment in Craig and Sierra but I'm sure the fans at the time were upset. Or maybe they were just happy to see the two get together since they were probably aware that he was leaving?) I think MB, EH, and LB all did fantastic work the day after. No wonder it was chosen as one of the 20 episodes on the ATWT disc set. Stellar soap opera work. Loved it!!!

Oh, it most definitely was all the rage back then. I remember it well! My father fully embraced the look throughout the 1980's. I wish I could see more of The Dobson's time so that I could understand it better. From what little I've seen of Brad, I do find him to be oddly creepy in every scene he's in. I would expect that we find out from him that he's a psycho killer at some point. However, it sounds as if he was more the leading man type. Wasn't he originally a seeming love interest for Lisa? Or was he just working her over to get info on the silver mines. (It *was* silver, wasn't it? My mind may be playing tricks on me.)

Carol and Jay, for me, fall under the category of characters that I've heard so much about (and read about in the Soaps & Serials books) but I've barely seen them or really understand their place in the Oakdale canvas. All I've seen is the '79-'80 We Love Soaps videos. It's interesting to read everyone's take on the character of Carol. She did seem a little bland to me but, as others have said, you need some bland/regular characters on soaps.