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jenny? YIKES! Terrible choice. shes still doing it, sadly.

A return of lauri and jeanna would be great but why fire Gretchen when she could team up with them? Both have come to her defense and I think she's IRL friends with lauri now too. It would KILL Vicki and Tamra and be heaven. Horse lady can go. And as much as I love her, I'd sacrifice heather for Vicki/Lauri/Jeanna/Tamra/Gretchen.

Season 7 is my favorite season!

Y'all know I love heather but it's annoying how she refuses to accept that Alexis and Gretchen were offered roles on this show. I totally believe that heather was their third choice and would have been fourth if Tamra was a wannabe actress.

Gretchen did that fox job offer before alexis tho, and i actually believe her about this one - somewhat. I dont think they offered it to her and she dropped it to go w/ tamra, but i do think they came to her before heather, as the role did seem more her style than heathers and she and heather are now doing/did that other project together. But of course they wont tell Heather that. Or alexis for that matter before.

Listen, if we start using it was all the producers setting then theres no reason to debate or discuss anything because nobody is at fault and everyone is innocent. Ape was ready to go then and there. Not sure why she wouldnt at her using her kids for a storyline err at one of her kids birthday parties. it isnt like she doesnt like to put them in the middle and exploit them.

Exactly. Yup. Poor innocent Ape, forced by the big bad evil producers. Im sure she was just heartbroken about it but had to do it to keep her job, lol.

No talk of Texas, Wendy Davis and the abortion ban? Or DOMA/Prop 8? Or voters rights?

I didn't get that he doesn't love him, just that he's terrible to them and we have seen that he is. He is mean to them, ignores them, tells the, to shut up. Everything short of telling the, to !@#$%^&*] off. Tre gets called out on everything she does because she's the one who acts like she is so above everyone else and perfect and everything is fine. Joe admitted to calling Melissa a bitch when they fight, and for the record there's a big difference between calling someone a name mid fight and calling someone a botch than there is calling your wife a !@#$%^&*] on the phone to your mistress/friend. The notion that they blame everything on Teresa is insane tho. Caroline doesn't blame Teresa for Lauren being overweight, Jaq doesn't blame her for her sons medical issues, etc. there's a lot of things she's not a part of that are often the best part of the show. However the show has centered on Teresa obsession with Melissa and her hatred of her and trying to end her marriage. Kathy's only relevant time is when closing with Teresa. And Teresa is to blame for a lot in there. Therea acting like a true friend but selling quotes about her friend Jaq to make a profit was a huge issue and it should be. Teresa is fake. A different level of fake than everyone else IMO because it doesn't even seem like she's aware of what's fake about her and what's not any,ore. Melissa is obviously fake, everyone puts on for a show and all that, but it seems that Teresa is so obsessed with putting on an everything is so fine and perfect appearence she's unaware of reality. I do feel sorry for her and her kids. I'm not sure I could keep a relationship with a friend or a family member that was with a person like her husband. It's sad that we treats them. And those poor girls. I can't imagine what they are going to be like as teens and adults growing up with a cancer like that and a mother who puts them in her drama and trashes their family members to them to the point they beg her to stop.

Caught the end of NJ. Teresa is such a child. Joey was so on point about her terrible piece of [!@#$%^&*] husband. He did call her a !@#$%^&*], he treats her like [!@#$%^&*], he treats their kids like [!@#$%^&*], she is obsessed with Melissa. He told not one lie and she couldn't handle it so she bolted like the coward she is. Her only comeback was to say he needs to leave her husband alone and stay out of her marriage, but she doesn't think that should apply to herself, his wife and their marriage? I seriously don't understand how y'all stan so hard for this ape. She's truly one of the worst people I've ever seen on a reality show in my life.

Shane Keough is the sexiest. Jesus.

Honestly those people are the most in line with nene IMO. Actually I'd expect her and tamra more than Gretchen.

Lot help me I'm actually watching rhonj. I'm disturbed by this talk about Teresa's daughter having pubic hair. Wow. Teresa is insane. She claims to want her family to be united and get along but her actions and words to others tell a different story. She wants her brother on her terms only. And she still is wicking her army of pathetic hookers to do her dirty work. It's so sad and pathetic. How does Teresa know if she went to the hospital or not? Her ass wasnt there 24/7 as we saw. She has spent so much time turning her family against her brother and Melissa so why would her dad tell her the truth about Melissa being there or not? Chris is so sexy. Caroline is still amazing. Part of the reason I have a hard time watching is jac and chris' son. I'm glad autism and the spectrum of it are getting sme exposure, but it's personally difficult for me to watch for exact details I don't wanna post at this time cuz it's so hard.

Yup. The only press horse face gets is when she's talking about Gretchen. I don't know what it is about Gretchen but bitches are obsessed with her. Miss piggy, horse, Tamra, Alexis. They all talk about her all the time. The only secure woman on the show, heather, is the only one who doesn't seem to have a big issue or be jealous of her.

Yup to all of this. Vicki is IMO the only one who truly comes off as a terrible person on OC and it's strictly because of her obsession with Gretchen. I also can not at her blaming Slade for her getting plastic surgery when she mentioned in season one looking like miss piggy and really it was the audience who pointed it out so often and were truly cruel. What slade has said about her is wring absolutely, but it isn't like she is he innocent victim. This wasnt a one sided fight and she actually gave far worse than she got. As for gretchen and Alexis, I honestly don't blame Gretchen. Alexis dragged her into all these fights and when Gretchen spoke the truth Alexis couldn't handle it. Gretchen didn't attack her or bash her, she much le heather just told the truth and Alexis didn't like it. I think Alexis and Vicki's totally fake and forced friendship to try and get back at Tamra and Gretchen speaks volumes about what insecure and fake, weak women they really are. Then there is Lydia who talks about being this peace and love hippy but it just rings false when you see her actively try to find issues with gretchen to create a storyline for herself. Her husband tho is so far the best husband OC has ever seen. Heather once again remained flawless and perfect.

Kathy's minorbscreentime is to blame for bad ratings. Ok. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the vile piece of [!@#$%^&*] allleged STAR, Teresa the ape.

bevause chris doesnt throw fits and cry about his weight, lauren does. albie is fine, fresh and perfect. lauren is stunning, and not for a bigger girl - just plain beautiful. chris is the unlucky one in looks.

So. I see Taylor outside on the VIP balcony at the emmys and i just had to go up to her, so i did, and she was super sweet and chatty and great, and exactly like she is on TV, lol.

And OMG I must post my pic with Taylor from last night at the Emmys later tonight when I'm on my computer!

Oh, yay a for Tamra and Eddie. I guess. She basically married a hotter, younger, maybe richer? Simon, but that's her type as her friendship with Vicki proves because Vicki is just like both of them.

I tried watching NJ and just can't watch someone as awful as Teresa and that's saying a lot cuz I watch a lot of terrible people on reality tv. Vintage OC was cool today. Current OC was alright tonight, I think Lydia is terrible still, brooks is beyond creepy, lauri desperate to ruin Vicki is equal parts sad and amusing because the bitch deserves it, heather/terry are perfect.

The Hills was better, IMO. But I love LB - ESP s2.

Yeah I just don't care about their kids or their husbands really. It was a bad version of Laguna Beach, IMO S4 is where it picked up at IMO. Jenna's kids were amazing tho.

the first season is terrible, lol, thats why i nevber watched again until last season lauri... i dont really have much to say. i dont much like her or not like her, i think she returned to hurt vicki only - and im ok with that because vicki deserves it. and i believe her, honestly.

I wouldnt say childish, because i dont think if vicki was pressing her buttons and jabbing at her and mocking her she would have said anything. i was shocked gretchen didnt lay it all out there, and i think she has every single right to do so. love or hate her, vicki accused her of being a golddigger - evn tho she wouldnt marry the guy - and cheating on her dying fiance when all along vicki was apprently out being the whore of cota de caza. i would have put what lori told me out there if i were her. i think in the limo vicki was trying to act like it was ni big deal and gretchen shouldnt care when we all know if the roles were reversed vicki would be a grade a bitch about it. hypocrite was the right word, for more than one reason. but even if she was being childish, it doesnt change anything about what vicki did. it doesnt excuse it, make it ok, or lessen it.