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Yes, i do remember hearing about the screaming match now. Didnt Brown say something about running into her at a gas station years later? I dont know why that just popped into my head. Perhaps it was three months, not weeks. Or she was just pulling a random, short term number out. How odd though that they would kill of SBs Carly, bring in TB as a alive Carly only to rape and kill her off. Carly and the castings, stories, behind the scenes dramas is one of the most interesting aspects of GH to me. From all the talks of SB not getting along with JFP and others, this weird short term recast to TB staying, to the rumors of TB being unhappy after awhile and MB not wanting to work with her anymore until she and TK took off and that saga, the awful recast after TB to that one lady who was an OK actress but miscast and all the other actress' who read for the role (Galen Gearings wife! Sarah Buxton!) to LW leaving GL for GH and the bts drama when SB came on as Claudia and rumors of she and VM not getting along. It just seems that behind the scenes of Carly's character may be more dramatic than on the screen.

YES! Thank you. Did Sarah leave under that bad of conditions, that they needed a three week recast?

I found my parents marathon watching the first two seasons on netflix and watched the season two finale. It was interesting to get their opinions on it, as they are not internet people at all. My dad loved Lori while my mom was begging me to tell her they kill her off because she can not stand her. They both hate Andrea. They didnt have an opinion on Daryl one way or the other. My mother loves, loved her some Rick while my Dad thinks he is annoying and weak and wants Shane to kill him. The whole conversation I was just thinking "Are my parents online on TWD forms on the DL? Cuz theyd fit right in - but they better fix that nothing opinion on Daryl" lol

I have no idea, and it is frustrating because I made a mental note to come into this thread and share it and then... well, mental notes vanish at 25. Let me a make a mental note of that... I want to say it was General Hospital and I read it in the SOD special, or seen it as trivia during the marathon.

I just heard about someone coming onto a soap for like three weeks as a replacement to wrap a story up but ended up staying, however i can not for the life of me remember who, what role, or what show.

Heather talked in her blog about how she was really upset with the caterer and was taking it out on terry, i understand where she was coming from in that honestly. I think its very typical for couples to do.

Paris was on, wasnt she? This was just an additional scene I think

Yup.

The perfection. The truth. This post is everything.

RHOC (new, now that i am all caught up!)- Tamra, tamra, tamra. Where do I begin? It is going to sound like I hate her - and i guess i kind of do, but i also LOVE her and am so glad she is on this show. That said, this attention seeking drama queen! Like the eff was up with her getting up and running from the table in tears, making a scene? Then returning as if nothing happened. I just cant. It was glorious. Then she takes Vicki aside at the party to talk and hash things out. Fine, that was good, but then she basically lies to Eddie and gretchen about it, not to mention her acting on her blog like Gretchen didnt want her and Vicki to make up when Gretch clearly pushed for her to say hello and be nice to her. Now, Gretchen has every right to worry about what the future would hold for her and Tamra if Tamra and Vicki became friends again after the way they treated her for so long. Speaking of, how glorious was it when Gretchen called Vicki out on how it feels to have everyon trash her, her relationship, her man, and attack, ambush and even lie about them? I did not expect Vicki to own that and agree it was similar, and you could tell it killed her, but she did it because its the truth. Eddie is a mean girl at heart. He and tamra are perfect together. Alexis... no comment, because i didnt watch her scenes. lol. I do think that from the talking heads and blogs it is clear that Gretchen and Tamra have a falling out. Tamra is already lying in her talking heads and her tone about Gretchen is off, so you know they were filmed after their falling out. The new girl also goes in hard on Gretchen in her blogs and interviews, so she hates her. This is looking like it will turn out everyone versus Gretchen with Heather playing a Jeanna type role of not taking sides. I was surprised by how hard Vicki went in on Tamra in her blog as I know they were together last week in new york when Vicki was on WWHL.

I dont think thats a way to reboot it, because even bringing in one, two even three new ladies with no ties - while never happening - wouldnt change the dynamics. They would still choose a side. Now, if they fired every but teresa, or fired teresa, maybe there would be a shift but i dont see it lasting. These women play roles, fictional versions of themselves, and they are not likely to change that. Many former wives and a few currnt ones have even commented on them knowing what producers - and their fans want - and doing what needs to be done to make that happen. So even with a slew of new wives and teresa, she would cause a battle line because her being the agressor against someone or being the odd one out needing to fight is her role and she knows it. NJ is very different than the other series in that is central on family. I dont think a move away from that would be good for them. What they have works for the majority of the audience. It sounds like the best way to reboot NJ might be what Bravo did this season - call in some pro help for these ladies and let them know they need to shape up and give them something new. Ive read that it happened, we will see.

I just don't see it ever happening. They will always bring ppl connected in.

I don't think OC needs a sake up or cast change at all. Maybe Alexis I guess could go. There is no way to reboot NJ. it will live and die with this cast.

I am pretty sure they were still filming at least into this season starting, i thought awhile into it but im not sure. I am not saying that actually killing her was a concious decision and a cop out in that way, just that it feels that way. The way it felt to me, watching it was, the writers effed her character up this season by isolating her, making her dumb by not clearly explaining her feelings and actions, backed her into a wall where itd be hard for the group to take her back, and killed her off instead of writing themsleves and her out of it. I had read earlier this week, after the episode aired, that killing her was kind of last minute/made late into the season and that to me is telling that they knew they had effed up with her, if the show was airing yet or not. I do not mind them killing her off - but I dont understand why do it when it has minimal impact as opposed to after she has fought her way back into the group, reddem her with the audience, and then do it. I dont think they need to closely follow the comics at all or anything like that. But even her death aside, the finale was very weak to me. Like there were serveral better, more impactful, and interesting episodes all season. This just kind of felt like another episode that was wasting time til something big happened despite all the stuff that did happen.

Andreas death just doesnt pack enough of an impact after having her so isolated.

I liked Kelly in the little ive watched of NYC. Luann, Jill, and Bethanny thought just seem awful to me.

My favorite reunion.... finally here. Its so clear that Tamra and Vicki knew how horrid they came off after years of trashing Gretchen and doing things that accused her off that they had to come prepared for war because she could ruin them. I am loving Alexis calling Tamra out on that cheesy, trashy porn bathtub scene and her claims to shelter her kids. It KILLS Tamra that she cant get to Gretchen anymore. Vicki stop lying, you found that scene completely trashy and it showed when they played the clip. DAMN these audience questions are going in on her, calling her out on doing all these sex scenes with Eddie to hurt Simon. seriously Tamra is being dragged at this reunion - how glorious that she alleged that gretchen cheated on jeff during their relationship and it was a fake relationship then it comes out she was miserable with Simon for five years and cheated on him with Eddie. I am not surprised that Bri flipped on Vicki after watching the season play out because she treated him like [!@#$%^&*] and then tried to blame it all on him and then started dating Brooks. God, i can not believe she filed for divorce and didnt tell him - it just shows her disregard for him, as there was absolutely zero reason for that. How interesting to see Vicki actually own her bad choices and take fault for this ending. I am loving Gretchen calling Vicki out. Vicki says she made a bad chocie in filming while Jeff was dying and that he wasnt her priority so she comes back with her letting her marriage fail and Vicki goes ape [!@#$%^&*] because it is true. Tamra cant take it either that her allegations of her faking a relationship with jeff and cheating on him became her reality this year. OMG this argument is great they are all just screaming at eachother. I can not believe that Tamra didnt go see Vicki in the hospital and Gretchen did, and Tamra just stayed at the bar drinking. Wow. Oh yeah Tamra i am sure Michelle called you and you were just surprised and you didnt seek the woman out to get dirt to throw at gretchen and Slade after her coming off absolutely terrible. Slade is right, he would be in jail if he didnt pay child support - in CA it is that quick unless he has a valid reason. i am dying at Slade saying tamra sucks guys off for money! That was low and uncalled for but AMAZING. It is interesting that Michelle says Slade doesnt pay any expenses, but doesnt say child support. Those are two different things. Jeanna raises a good point about tamra always making a scene at the finale parties... and Tamra went to a patent attorney? LOL. Now i LOVE Tamra, through all her [!@#$%^&*] and gretchen hatred I love her still. But damn she looks terrible and acted awful at this reunion and I think thats why she was very different the next season. Peggy was such a non factor at this reunion outside of the Jim thing. WOW! Fernanda was at the reunion for a segment and they didnt even air her? LOL! WOW!! Gretchen reunion blog is full of so much truth. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-6/blogs/gretchen-rossi/just-the-facts

RHOC s6 (end of)- Fernanda is such a odd person on this show. She like comes and goes and her only story is a kiss with Tamra. Did she film a lot more and it was all cut because she wasnt with the ladies alot? Like she just outed her kiss with Tamra to Lynn, who just randomly returned and looks as out of it as ever. Did Alexis Coture ever take off? LOL. I know Tasm & Vicki had a popular wine label for awhile. I tried to buy my mom another Gretchen Christine item and its all sold out, so it must be going well for her. I know Tams new gym just opened - i wanna check out but i think its for already skinny and fit people, lol. I dont hate Peggy like I did earlier in the season but I still dont really like her yet. I can see why she wasnt invited back, she just doesnt fit on OC. She is kind of hard and aggressive while everyone else is like let me backhanded compliment you lol. Ive noticed Gretchen is more isolated this season. Most of her storylines are about Slade and she doesnt have a lot of interaction with the other ladies, even Alexis. Kind of odd. I dont mind though because I do think she carries her own story with Slade well and when she is with the other girls its usually good, entertaining drama. Once again Tamra and Vicki are OBSESSED with Gretchen and Slade. Its actually so amusing given who Vicki ends up dating. Showing up late to a dinner party is the tackiest, rudest thing ever. Does Eddie have his own money? Like, money money? I also just can not at them judging other peoples relationships and marriages given Tamara is still married and quickly got herself a boytoy and Vicki and onn, well we all know about that failure. Even Donn and Eddie are awful and catty with them, Gretchen looks like a corpse? OK... Eddie can get Slade a job at mcDonalds? Sure. Why is Vicki judging other people for not attending a dinner when she skips everything for work? She is only at all these events because it is her job. She has dinner without Donn all the time? Look how that ended. Tamra would be happy to be away from Simon when they were married? Look at how that ended. Its so clear that these two women are so totally and completely miserable that they must tear down those who are happy. It makes for fantastic television. Im actually surprised at how trashy Vicki is coming off because I didnt ever really think of her as trashy, as opposed to Tmara who clearly walked out of a trailer park and into OC. So, Tamara admits to making out/hooking up with Fernanda in a bathroom while married to Simon? This is why i love this hypocritical, judgmental bitch and think shes one of the best housewives ever. She makes amazing television. It is ironic that Tamra and Fern are arguing over their lesbian make out session over NOH8 photos lol. So Tamra is mad that Jeana is messing around in her private business Hunny, you put it on a reality show and had your ex husband arrested for a storyline, its public not private. I do feel bad for her though, what he did is wrong no question about it. But she needs to own what she has done too - leaving him and instantly dating a new man that you then take off to spain with for 10 days while leaving his kids with your parents and not telling him was mad shady. Drunk, bull riding, dancing with lesbian Alexis is the most interesting Alexis has EVER been. Peggy is so combative with Alexis over everything she says, its very weird. Its like these two are competing for a spot on this show or something. Jeana is great. I have greatly missed her and love how she is popping up in this Simon and Tamra storyline. I totally understand where she is coming from here, honestly. Tamras i didnt want him arrested but i called the cops story is just illogical. And Jeana is right, Tamra did this for the attention and because she loves the drama and needs storylines for the show and her sudden abusive marriage angle is really just odd, esp given that people like Jeana who were around a lot did come out and defend him. It is kind of BH adrinne and paul like. Well, this scene of Tamra actually owning that her actions and treatment of Simon has hurt him and he is acting out is actually nice. Alexis' fashion line... i. can. not. These are like those cheap mini dresses girls buy in vegas to show their vaj in the club. just cheap and tacky. ill add more as I watch more... Tamra should have just got up and excused herself if she was so worried about Vicki. I do think it was tacky and rude of Gretchen not to believe anything was wrong with Vicki, but at the same time V has been so vicious to G that i get it. Now here goes Vicki spouting off about how Donn didnt love her enough or like a man should love his wife. This bitch. I just can not with her. Anytime I get to liking her or feeling bad for her she says [!@#$%^&*] like that. Interesting that gretchen went to see Vicki in the hospital and not a single one was even decent to her during what happened with Jeff. I swear they drink more on OC than any other season. Alexis talking about whats wrong the america today is that women are too free and think they are equal to men instead of being born from their rib just sums up everything wrong with organized religion. So Tamra doesnt want any drama at this party with jeanna but she is going to serve her with some fake ass nothing gag order? OK. Its so interesting to hear Bri tell Vicki to just please stay single for a little bit longer this time than the last time knowing that she didnt and hopped right into it with Brooks. Its like as strong as Vicki wants to be as a strong buisness woman, she really does depend on a man for her happiness and it fails everytime. Its so awkward watching everyon talk to Vicki and dance around the Donn topic. ugh. Tammy Knickerboker or whatever her name is. I can not explain to you how much i hate this woman for no reason. Oh and Quinn in one of her ugly, cheap wigs... yeah i am glad peggy didnt stick around cuz she really annoys me. This Peggy vs Alexis fight is pretty entertaining though. Why are this gay and Peggy going up to jeana to start [!@#$%^&*]? Tamra cant handle it? OMG THIS FIGHT IS GLORIOUS! Tamra throws a letter at Jeanna and then a glass of wine in her face? I thought Tamra was so anti throwing things at people because its a form of abuse? GOD I LOVE HER! Then jeanna throws her wine but misses and his this basic blonde who shoves her so Tammy and Quinn step in then Tamras equally trashy mother tries to get involved all as Tamra runs off because she knows she is in the wrong. Then some random gay throws wine on Tammy! Then someone else throws a glass of wine just for the hell of it! WHAT IS GOING ON! Plus i spy Drunk Sarah! LOL. Then Tamra chases her down the driveway screaming like a banshee! Now listening to Tamra explain her side to Vicki and all the lies wow.... Jeana got violent! Jeana tried to throw her in the pool! LOL. Now she is telling Alexis jeanna pushed her and was trying to throw her in the pool. and !@#$%^&*] yes to Gretchen calling Tamra out on how it feels when people run to the press and tell made up stories just to cause pain. That was flawless and totally deserved.

Weak finale. Killing Andrea was such a cop out after they made her so hated.

RHOC s6- Tamra rebounded quickly... Gretchen "Clearly im not a golddigger. Im dating Slade. He has no money! Everyone knows im in for the sex" I love her. I may or may not have bought my mother a Gretchen Christine bag... Oh, hi Evil Dr Will from Big Brother! He is removing Tamras tattoo. When gretchen put the evil eye at and went at Tamra... DYING. Tamra just expects everyone to ignore how vile she was because she is allegedly a new person... but that isnt how life works. The past cant be the past until you adress it. Vicki is obsessed with Slade. Gretchen is a little drunk and this cant end well... "Were you calling me an evil bitch?" "Yeah, I kinda was..." I love Slade and Gretchen, and I love how smart she is re him and her money and their relationship. I am not a fan of Peggy so far.. at all. Fernanda is annoying the more she is on.

Bullshit at bravo offering Faye a spot. She would've taken it and if not shed be all over the Internet saying she turned them down. Bravo have been said o want more glamour and money, Faye doesn't fit that. At all. Sounds like Jaq should've beat that dough bag honestly.

VH, I am with you 100% on Kandi.

I think with the massively, overwhelming, total hatred he and bravo got in reaction to her sealed her fate. I actually think if it was even sort of mixed or people loved to hate her then she would have stood a chance, but seriously it was 99.99999% total, pure hatred. RHoV: OMG ARE THESE BITCHES REALLY TRYING TO SAY ROBIN DRUGGED RONNIE?! I. Can. Not! Mary is 49? WOW! I think Ilouia is being ridiculous expecting Mary to attend her party at Ronnies. She should have thanked Ronnie for the offer to host it but declined and had it at a restaurant. LOVE Robin and Mary, They are so light and fun, such a contrast from the darkness and depressingness of ronnie and jody Jody planning a party to try and stop the ladies from going to Marys birthday party speaks volumes about her complete and total obsession with Mary. Its a shame that Amanda is too weak to tell them that she is going to Marys party. Did Ronnie really expect anyone would believe she was drugged? I am glad Amanda didnt really let that slide. Ioulia picking The Coven over Mary and Robin? I hope she regrets this. They have turned on Robin and she will be next if she doesnt get in shape and line with them and bash mary. This dinner party was a plot to turn Ioulia on Mary. They are all obsessed with her and are dedicated to their obsession. It must kill them that Mary has pulled back and doesnt care about them anymore. I feel terrible for Amanda. I have a close friend who this happened to, at a resturant. He ordered a soda water with mint leaves and lime slices and the next waiter brought over a Mojito and didnt know and he took a drink. Its terrible. AND here they go turning on Ioulia. GET UP AND WALK OUT! Marys video is great. I love the song so much. WOW! Next week looks great. Jody fully goes cray cray and lets her obession show while Ronnie gets put in her place by Robin.

Cheap: Where are you watching V online? I cant find it for days after it airs! last weeks RHoV: Jody calls mary a terrorist because she said that jodys store is second hand. i am dying. Jody is truly obsessed with Mary. Loving Robin and Marys friendship. My god Ronnies face is... it is hard to even look at her. This psychic? Please. Its almost as funny as Ronnie saying shes on a deep level. Also, Ronnie saying she and Mary had a one night thing years ago... while i actually do believe it what a shitty thing to do. she picked telling robin to plant doubts about mary being honest and robin being close to mary. I love me some Amanda and her showing how stupid Ronnie is with foods lol. It was sad when Amanda talked about being molested as a child. Its so sad how often this happens. This show would be so, so much better without Jody. I enjoy fighting and drama but her obsession with mary a new level. Ronnie is a disaster. She is so fucked up in nearly every scene. Jody cant handle that she cant control Robin like she cant everyone else. Ronnie or Jody have to go next season. Amanda is the only one to come out of this episode looking sane, honestly.

Queen Caroline front and center, as she should be. Honestly tho this is cheap as hell. The !@#$%^&*] bravo? re NYC: Carole, Ramona and Heather are great return picks. I would add Aviva because she is cray, and then add two new wives.