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Oh, I personally think she definitely approached Ted McGinley levels on primetime lol, at least in terms of being ubiquitous. She was added to virtually every show out there at one point, which is the main reason why I've said she's never lacked for work since GH. I just don't think she killed Melrose specifically, and I don't think she was necessarily wrong for all those shows (though she was wrong for a lot of them). When you take the Lois accent away, unless Rena's character has strong writing or at least an outsize personality - like Quinn on B&B did, hence her success - RS can be stuck doing what Carla Gugino, around that same era, had to do on a lot of sitcoms and dramas: Play the sort of neutral brunette who is just there. (Gugino is super talented and having a career renaissance these days, particularly in the work of Mike Flanagan on streaming, but there were a lot of years where she was stuck being 'That Girl' on primetime)

@DRW50I knew you'd like this skit for the Blu-Ray release of William Hartnell's second year. These sets are such a labor of love.

Donna, everyone already has talked about this in this thread.

Giving Mac a kid is an obvious way to go. The unknown backstory there is more than enough. The show potentially trying to magic up children for Felicia in the early '90s or Dominique and Scott out of nowhere, when they were all present enough that there is literally no available timespan possible for either of those things to have happened (unless Coby is Serena's twin or Ryan stole Felicia's eggs like Valentin or some gross shít), is ridiculous.

I don't love Scott getting involved with a deranged terrorist and eugenicist who should be back in Steinmauer, but Kathleen Gati is talented, they have fun together for the moment and it's not like Scott is a stranger to, well, strange. I'd still make Obrecht a recurring on-off villain to come in and out again; I don't believe she has a permanent place in a normal canvas. As for Bobbie, Jackie Zeman's face has gone through so many changes, both good, bad and worse in the last 20 years; every time I think it's settled down and is looking better, something else is done and she can barely speak. Frankly it's severely affected her performance, not just how she enunciates but what she poorly tries to bring to the delivery to make up for her facial issues. It's sad, because I love Bobbie and always have. But unless Jackie's face is doing better and she can deliver more nuanced work I don't need to see her that often anymore. AFAIK, based on timelines, there is absolutely no conceivable way Scott and Dominique could have another adult child. Unless they want to suggest Josh Kelly is somehow Serena's long lost twin which, no.

You're absolutely right, which was my first instinct as well.

Yeah, I remember that. Which is why I doubt anything serious will occur. We've been here before with Kin. But who knows.

What would they gain from cutting or offing Scott or Bobbie? I don't believe either have been on contract in forever.

Something like it is the only thing that can work now and is what should be done on streaming. Arc-based soap seasons, block taping with breaks. That is the only future the medium has in America, IMO but I doubt anyone will do it with the existing brands. The PP soaps came close but couldn't get there due to management.

It's a shame, especially since he gave a good interview about his time at GH and his praises for all the wonderful years maybe in the last day or two. But I've counted Kin out before. I don't think he'll ever be truly gone.

LOL she didn't kill Melrose. The final season was a bit of a renaissance. It just took the heat for 90210 and a bored network. The Eve character was a too slow burn and quite boring when she remained a heroine, but the umbrella story overall worked and when she finally lost her mind it was a good time.

@DRW50 Scott Evans (Oliver Fish, OLTL) is appearing in the new Amazon show from Gloria Calderon Kellett, co-creator of Netflix's late, beloved One Day at a Time:

It is obscene that the Trina frame-up nonsense has been going since March lol. It is clear the writing is there for Spencer and Trina, but I don't trust Frank Valentini when it comes to non-white characters, ever. He still operates from a mindset of 'don't upset the white grandmas' from 2010. I feel like they've strung this out for as long as humanly possible as he struggles to find any way to put the Black girl with someone else and find another white chick for Spencer. I hope I'm wrong. Either way, TA remains gold as she's been since her first day.

Never liked her, never will. Bye.

I agree. It's sad, and he was underrated and excellent on the show in some rough years even/especially as Carly's man and the father to her sons, the only place in the canvas post-Brenda that suited him at all for a time. Now I just don't need to see him ever again, which is a pity for Jax who I still felt had a bit more to offer in the right role.

Rena has never really lacked for primetime work.

How did anyone in this country get politically radicalized or go full MAGA? It's been a long time since the cuddly joint Jaxis interviews. Sad, but that happens.

I liked Billy in the role a lot, but Sean Kanan is still the man for me. Though I believe he may still be busy on Cobra Kai atm.

Probably at least a little of both of the above.

I cannot believe B&B let her go. They've been dining out on her talent for years. That show keeps great actors locked up doing total crap for aeons because they have more money and global pull than probably any show left, and the actors seem fine with it; I don't think they'll ever let Heather Tom go, nor do I think she wants to. I seriously doubt Frank V. will spring for RS who is used to real budget and usage. There's also the Wally Kurth issue, and I assume they're in a good place these days but that would likely be sensitive to deal with onscreen. But yes, Lois should be back. Lisa Lo Cicero should be playing Lois, she basically is as Olivia (who has made Lois redundant, sadly), but with Rena free, sure. Figure something out. (They won't, and they'll have no idea how to write for her.)

I'm sure something quiet was finally done after Ingo spoke out, and fans had been vocal too at the time. But the fact that it was allowed to go on at GH events at all, and then written into the scripts, should've led to firings. Again, typical daytime.

They also basically wrote the juice into the show at one point with Jason, Spinelli and Claudia cured by some magic acai berry juice, IIRC. The entire affair should've gotten Steve fired for good and the production team and EP censured for enabling his scam. It was so corrupt and transparent, and a classic example of how insular and marginal daytime is as an industry. If that shít went down on primetime the actor would've been fired and the show would've been disciplined so fast it would feel like time travel. But because it was daytime no one in higher power knew or cared until the hand was beyond forced, possibly by Ingo's comments, and either way no one was ever fired and no discipline was ever made public.