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We don't know. There's no clear answer either way. Except Alexis did mention Lucy's daughters in 2013 during the confusing Port Charles crossover story with Caleb and John McBain. As far as Wikipedia is concerned she's still canon and AFAIC she still exists (and should be brought on, which they allegedly may have tried to do in the 2010s).

She was adopted on Port Charles.

Yes, Serena and Christina.

I think they're playing with going there as the Gio situation evolves and Chase hopefully sleeps with Willow. I have a deep fear Lulu will get fobbed off on for awhile while Kirsten is gone. Knowing FV, he will grudgingly put Lante together when he is out of options and then either cut someone or more likely put them in B or C-story. I think FV views many big modern (as in, post-'90s) couples from before his tenure as a threat to his vision of the show, unless he absolutely needs them to hold an audience or favors one of the actors. I wouldn't generally think that conspiratorially but it's proven out more than once. Guza II had a host of popular couples, for better or for worse; while I was not a fan of the prior iterations of Lulu and Dante, the original actors were popular together, and Alexa is a popular ABC Daytime vet. But neither character is one that Frank has ever favored as a major lead since taking over, and focusing on them would give less time over to actors he prefers. It's just malpractice to see both of them wasted this way. It infuriates me, as much as the LNL2 situation did.

It's because BLQ/Setton are the priority for Frank IMO. Dante and Lulu, a pre-FV popular couple, are incompatible with his needs and version of GH when they should be leading story. But they can't, because he wants Amanda Setton doing that. So they play second fiddle to her focus and Lulu is beaten up as a character to service his priorities (including, atm, Britt). It's not that BLQ can't or shouldn't lead story too, or that Lulu doesn't have many of these character traits dating back to Julie Berman. It's that the primary agenda is clearly for major story in this age range to be given to BLQ first and others second, and a lot of her story is milquetoast. While Lulu, a core fan favorite character played by a star actress, is treated like the heavy or a support player. They'll probably play with Dante and Brook Lynn (something I would've been open to at another time) and then reluctantly rush a Lulu/Dante reunion in 6-12 months, possibly while cutting one of 'em lol. That is the Frank way when something else doesn't work.

I love Kat's outre outfits tbh. The Rhythm Nation look got me.

Still such a great scene.

That's because the show doesn't like them either (at least not together), and wants people to focus on Britt and Obrecht.

Nobody should give one-note Britt or her war criminal mom the time of day.

Yeah, no. I'll leave bait alone.

Far from a flop, but sure. Good luck getting its new audience.

There's just a lot of internecine warfare and cliquism in the online right. A lot of them hate each other and clout chase and command legions of incel stans. I wasn't shocked one took a shot at him.

No, MVJ has explicitly said twice he isn't.

interesting deets in the TV Insider article:

That was my suspicion in the first place.

I am so tired of seeing Infomercial Molly in this goddamn eczema cream ad with this sailor suit top. Just putting it out there. Nice girl but spent character.

B&B isn't competition obviously, and still has a very loyal audience. But I do think they are now in a position where every other soap has LGBT characters and BTG has a unique audience (though I don't know if it has a gay following), so in these leaner ratings times they may be willing to try more to draw some of it for themselves.

I think it's a real factor. BTG has genuinely grabbed a new audience for a soap, at least in the social media gen (and from what I hear anecdotally, many of their parents or relatives). And a lot of them like an excuse to catch up or are just learning how daytime's schedule works.

Interesting we're on the same page.

I was wondering the same. I find it curious for a few reasons, but my pipe dream suspicion probably ain't happening.

That was some time ago. Dani does crazy soap opera shít (as do a good portion of the cast), but Dani is not being played as Alison. And she has mellowed considerably in recent weeks/months. I am sure she will show out again and make a fool of herself in some ways, that's the nature of the character and the show, but she's not displaying in Chelsea's life like Alison. That is fanwank based on the momager stuff.

The Vanessa/Dani relationship has always been a better fit than her and Nicole IMO. I see why they felt she couldn't have her and Cady's wacky character as talk-tos. I do think Vanessa can have both. I am not against more of Pamela with Dani - I am one of the few who seems to enjoy Pamela, in doses - but the business needs to get off the ground and they should introduce some family for her to flesh her out (as well as Vanessa's kids when ol' Doug inevitably heads for the big Golden Corral in the sky). I do think they will inevitably pair Derek and Shanice for real. That's the vibe onscreen. But Ben Gavin is pretty terrible, so I fear they'd write her out with him.

Dani has been pretty levelheaded lately AFAIC. And as I said the other night, both she and Nicole are pretty straight-up in their intentions compared to their parents or some of the kids or spouses.

Oh my God, I said it about Doug but Ted actually is Kirk Van Houten.

I think MG is too surface while also playing an even weaker character. The scrappy underdog Hayley people dreamed up before the show debuted is not the Hayley that's ever actually appeared onscreen (that ended up being Eva) - she's basically a transparent, whiny third wheel and now nascent schemer. They've never done much with her, and I think MG struggles with the often very purple prose they give her.