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Nah, IIRC Drew bought it in November sweeps.

ETA: September, apparently. I haven't seen those eps in forever.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

Am I wrong, or didn't it seem as if they WANTED her to be Dixie, then reversed course when they realized no one was buying it?

I always suspected Frons did, but I may be paranoid.

Kelli Giddish as "Dixie" was soooo [!@#$%^&*] ridiculous.

I'm in March of '86 atm on YT - classic soaps from Y&R and Loving to this are such a cozy watch right now. The Steve/Betsy rift is really heightening, and I don't remember it being pronounced in earlier episodes, more of a gradual thing as she was ill at ease about the house, etc. Fascinating watching Marland dismantle a supercouple which already seemed out of fashion to me. Does anyone know if he'd had serious intentions for Steve and Iva, or if he soured on Runyeon from the jump? Had the Andropouloses been backburnered for long?

Also: Lisa Brown had chemistry with Scott Bryce. It's too bad if that relationship didn't get more play.

They bent the knee.

6 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Ellen clearly hates Erika Slezak, lol - "The third Vicki." LOL, oh the shade of it all! 

She sure does! I definitely get some of it, but still find it unfair; I think ES is collateral damage. Though it did provide one of the great Erika-is-not-[!@#$%^&*]-Viki moments of all time, when someone asked her, I think in her fan newsletter, about it and a quote from the '80s soap mags where she noted that Paul Rauch's OLTL is all white people and haves vs. have nots, a quote Holly took to be praise. Erika breezily replied "yes, that's bullshit." She said she loved Ellen Holly's work and that Ellen was treated horribly, and that her quote about Rauch's all-white show was a criticism of it.

IIRC Malone's latter-years story plans involved Rachel and Drew having an interracial romance, then having Becky Lee turn up as a bigot opposed to the relationship. He got canned before that could go.

What's funny is how every actor asked, from Erika and Bob Woods on down, has backed up most of Holly's stories. They all say Arthur Burghardt (Jack Scott) was a nightmare. This because, IIRC, Joe Stuart didn't want to hire her choice, which I think was Morgan Freeman.

Erika has always taken the honest approach re: this stuff and I appreciate that. She says Ellen Holly was treated horribly.

IIRC JFP had Ellen back for much of the summer of 2000 on recurring. She tested Rachel with Jared Hall, Ed and Carla's ADA grandson(??), but Herve Clermont couldn't act so both got dropped separately. Ellen remained the incumbent Rachel on guest spots until the pretty good Daphnee Duplaix took over in 2009. I think I recall HBS said only DD captured what Bethea brought to the role. I'd still have Duplaix on an OLTL today married to Dan Gauthier's Kevin as a tentpole family couple.

@Darn Rachel’s past was addressed in ‘09, I think during a court case - maybe Matthew fighting Bo and Nora for his right to the operation for his legs? I believe it was Tea, still ostensibly her friend, who grilled Rachel on the stand on cross-examination on what she’d done to Georgie Phillips and serving time. They patched it up later. 

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Olivia Nuzzi, one of very few NYT writers presently defending the piece's publication, has a storied history some of you may not recall:

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