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Viki and David Renaldi.

Uhhhhh, what the hell?! 

This is the most of Y&R's past I've ever seen in a regular sustained experience. What a gift.

I hope the networks rethink their libraries over the course of what is set to be a very long year.

As I'm coming up on the deaths of

in the LM, I thought now was as good a time as any to finally watch the Loving pilot, full of people who will be out of the picture shortly. I hope you'll all accept my preemptive apology for questions you've all answered before.

- WEHT Merrill, Roger and Ann? And I guess Susan Walters/Lorna?

- When did "Clay," Gwyneth and Trisha enter the picture, and where are they?

- Is that really Geraldine Page?? (Who I last saw in John Schlesinger's brilliant and demonic The Day of the Locust, a film I do not recommend watching at the outset of a terrifying global pandemic)

The pilot is notably directed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg, esteemed music video director for the Beatles and the Rolling Stones who also helmed the original Brideshead Revisited miniseries a few years prior and the original Broadway production of Agnes of God, and long-rumored to be the illegitimate son of Orson Welles.

5 hours ago, juppiter said:

This. I’m not gonna go all Chris Crocker on y’all, but it’s become a bit much. 

"Become?" The vitriol for any man over 25 and 140 lbs was creepy from day one.

Did they show a '95/'96 ep? I'm not seeing it on All Access, just '98.

IIRC Lemay said that too.

@marceline I am calling you out! I am dying for your thoughts on the Loving Murders. Just got to the big scenes with Debbi and Darnell near the midway point (after Curtis' death, just before Charles is revealed as Lorraine's old flame) and damn. Sure, Jacob was largely Jesse by another name but it worked, both then and now.

I'm not clear on Jacob's full backstory - something about his wife and son dying in a bombing somehow? What month did he come on in '95? I was always glad AMC never killed him off later on, as I'd grown up watching Angie and Jacob. I like to think he and Lorraine are together in Paris (his last known location), if she didn't patch it up with Charles.

I still do not fully understand Victor's relationship or history with Douglas Austin. Lotta layers!

Apologies for commenting on 1993 late:

Rowell and Kristoff are luminous. It's always amazing how much more authentic they (especially Dru) were allowed to be onscreen vs. most latter-day (or past) characters of color, who are often written to be safely bland by half-interested predominantly white writers. And this was the Tiffany soap for CBS. Incidentally I always found Kristoff hot as hell. Certain folk online used to clown him way too much, including on this site.

Even John Abbott is not buying poor Jack's delusions about Nikki and Victor, lol.

What exactly happened to Jack #1 again? He died IRL? Was the original story with him and Stacey her as the friend/'ugly duckling' who got him after Lily, or what? I don't know when or how the plans for Jack/Lily died.

Well, if they don't put up the '81 a link would be appreciated; I'm dying to see it.

Right. Am I missing some or will they be putting up yesterday's?

I'm finally searching for the classics. Couldn't find any up on CBS.com so I'm trying the All Access app - I only see three, one from '84 (4/13), one from '90 (4/10) and one from '91 (4/17). Any suggestions are appreciated.

They also wanted Lisa Peluso for Amanda around then.

I remember losing my mind when Gaskill showed up on AMC. I'd watched and enjoyed him on Models Inc., where he had a good role as Linda Gray's son only to be unexpectedly written out midway through. Months later this grown-ass man showed up at a high school locker like 'how do you do, fellow kids?' I was maybe 14 and baffled.

I loved Kelsey. TC Warner got a raw deal. Could not stand Laura or Anita. None of the Scotts registered for me.

I think these reunions (as well as the Loving Murders uploaded in their entirety) have been a real gift. I hope the response to these events, the classic episodes and the overall need for comfort food for people at home in all walks of life makes some network folks think again about what they have at their fingertips. The fact that ABC is choosing now to run a primetime special about soaps certainly gives me pause.

I am dying to know when the LM culprit was told they were the one. Even a third or so of the way through, with

having just been killed, there are so many leading looks, lines and performances.

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