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8-3 I said it before, but I'll say it again...I be living for Christine vs Giggly Heffa. And that was a good fight. I did think MS was weak when Christine brought up Summer. The Phyllis I knew would really and truly snap when you bring her kids into a catfight. But I giggled when Christine made that crack about how Giggly Heffa repeats herself...one of MS's acting tics. Meta...? I wish they would just bit the bullet and turn Elena into a villainess. Her eavesdropping on Nikki/Nate and the looks ES had on her face...it's screaming for it to happen. Hmmmm...looks like a matter of time before Sally and Adam get back together.

Exactly @Gray Bunny!! How does one solve a problem like ShebySheree? Part of what made her return in Season 8 great was the fact that she picked a lane and ran with it. She was the Bone Collector, got along with just about everyone while shading them, and gave fun feuding with her level of delusions. And she...COULD...read. i wish she would leave into that or even her early persona of villain. At least for all her silliness, fans are still on her side (or laughing at her). Oh, that was already out there, Boo. Part of the reason I skipped last season's reunion. I agree. After all the backtalking and flip-flopping I would LOVE to see Sanya in the hot seat. Especially if it turns out her sister spills some tea on her. Cuz there is just some tension there I want to see explored. I don't mind Marlo as villain, but Production needs to stop trying to edit her as the victim and let her be a villain and get rightfully dragged for it. And even better...Marlo OWNING IT. Hehe. She's not???? smh. This Production... Yes, about Production. While I feel that last season was transitional, the cast was giving last season. I thought it was an inspired idea this season that everyone came for Kandi. Something different, unexpected, and fresh, but it has since stalled. And I thought the group in groups a la Team Smalls/Team Talls, Team Pretty/Team Beast, Aunties/Nieces would give so much more, but it isn't when there is nothing going on. Say what you want about Carlos, but yes, he would have been focusing on the Sanya family tension, Sheree's sales or lack of, and really finding ways to get Kenya into the game. I don't see any of that. Still enjoying, but I feel more engaged last season. And I know once I watch the episode with 50Cynt and Latoya, I am going to like it...but I was a Latoya fan her season. I hope you are wrong Drew/Ralph divorce. Otherwise, why get cameras on them a la Scandoval.

8-2 Awww...it's a credit to AL's acting that I have no reason to feel sympathy for Summer since she blew up her life. But her Summer in the park with Chance talking about how she was not sure if she would get back with Kyle because so much had happened at that point resonated. Probably cuz of rl stuff with me thinking the exact same thing, but YES. Good job. I was for a Sharon/Chance/Summer triangle, but that whole scene of her with Chance read as friends hanging out...the first time in their scenes they came across that way. So I guess Chance/Summer are done. Awwwww Katherine flashback. And we know I'm enjoying seeing the mansion. I still can't believe Diane and Jack did not do a big wedding. But I could say the same about Kyle not being there at the wedding at all. And then his coming out party with Audra in front of all the Abbotts. Just...prick.

RHOA Well, I finally made it through those Portgual episodes it seem. I'll say RHOP's trip there was more intersting to me than this one. All I came away from it with was... 1) Drew vs ShebySheree is the gift that keeps giving. I was sure that Drew was starting to feel the Ralph drama coming and feeling it since she has her own brand of delusion that is similar to Sheree's own. However, I actually thought when Drew stormed outside crying that Sheree was trying to make an effort to get through to her. Sad that Drew was too sensitive. 2) DARRRRNNNNN they really don't have anything going on without Kandi or Kenya around, do they? Kenya got hurt and Kandi went with her. Instead of enjoying the country, there was Sanya, Marlo, Sheree, and Courtney Wannabe doing nothing about talking about Kenya and Kandi non-stop. I did like that Sheree did a little pot stirring with Drew re: Kandi, but that was about it. And now we have to bring up BOLO for drama. BOLO FROM TWO YEARS AGO...le sigh. It was sad really. Because I felt like the potential is there. Coming off the trip, there are so many feuds. Looks like Kandi and Drew might get into it. Marlo is always up to get into it with anyone. And Courtney Wannabe coming for Kenya...but this Production for me ain't it. What works for RHOP I am seeing is not at all working for RHOA. Just a few notes... KENYA. I like seeing her happy with Brooklyn. That said...perhaps a rivalry with Wannabe is the way to go. At this point, Kenya's clearly over Marlo. And not even Marlo knowing Roi got barely a reaction out of Kenya. She is clearly done with her. But Wannabe...with her attempts to be relevant on the show (and now social media)...might be the thing to bring out the Kenya who likes to play. KANDI. I like Activated Kandi. And she's been that way most of the season. It does seem weird to see everyone come for her. But she has decent backup and has been giving it back. And still has a hint of messy to her with this Bolo stuff. So I expect to see more. SANYA. You know what? I kinda wish she would lean into her family drama more. The abruptness of her brother and sister leaving and her sister being shady toward her. Could there be more there than what we are seeing? Hmmm. Definitely a better route to go than her weak attempts to come for anyone...at least until Kandi gets her lickback. SHEREE. Montel who? lol. That's how I felt when he (finally) called her on the trip. I had forgotten all about him. Outside of her shady confessionals toward Kandi and the too-brief flashes of last season's Drew/Sheree rivalry, she really has nothing going on. Thankfully, she started to pot stir between Drew and Kandi, but I just expect more from Sheree. MARLO. Now that scene where Production tried to put Kenya/Kandi in a bad light...NO. I cannot believe how much they are trying to give Marlo the Porsha edit. I didn't like it with Porsha...and Porsha definitely was better than Marlo in that regard. I cannot. BUT...I can't say Marlo isn't giving something. Dating. Trying to feud with Kenya still. And her main target...Kandi. DREW. Drew, Drew, Drew. While drama with Kandi carried the first part of the season, it seems drama with Drew will carry the second half. Her rivalry with ShebySheree. The issues with Marlo. Sanya always trying to be relevant. And now...the Bolo/Latoya stuff. And I've been enjoying seeing the cracks in her marriage with Tampa Ralph being exposed slooooowwwwly. And still giving us real life stuff as well. It's been nice to watch. And speaking of Latoya...look who's back!!! I am ready for the reunion, though I felt they taped it too soon. They should have waited for more of the Drew divorce to hit the sheet IMHO.

So wait! Did Finn FINALLY punch Liam today?

And the BOLD you are on point with. I just watched 8-4 and I wanted to shake Steffy like a rag doll. Because Finn wasn't wrong...Liam is doing his Liam thing and trying to come for her. And she was just in disbelief even though she has already been kissed by Liam twice. And then Steffy tried to deflect when Finn asked how she knew about the Sheila hug. I was smh. But again...they have been enjoying the arguing. Cuz I can see both points of view. LOVE. Hehe. Now why did I read that in the MARRIED TO MEDICINE theme song tone? Only Ridge though she had a nice chemistry test with Deacon.

Oh, how I miss Susan Lucci on my screen. Her and a good ole Erica slap.

LOL!!! I think they could write his issues with Sheila better cuz is she really forgiven for shooting him dead? Now Liam...meh. I don't find it propping, but I DEFINITELY find him annoying. I'm about to start reading him in this thread like he's a Real Housewife that I don't like. I dislike him so much right now, butting in. I LOVED Wyatt calling him out on why he's getting between him. Such a Male Brooke.

You two make me want to hurry up and get catch up, but I've been sooo busy. lol. I have even neglected my beloved RHOM.

Yeah @DramatistDreamer and I discuss that here often. So many times there is room there for conflict and you just added on some more elements to play.

8-3 FINALLY!!! CONFLICT!!! And Steffy and Finn where they should be...FRONTBURNER!!! Said what you want about the fallout from Sheila going free (and I'm sure you all have ) but I've been enjoying the conflict that her going free, Kelly almost drowning, Liam being a little bitca (okay, maybe not that lol) that it has given to Steffy and Finn. And JMW and TN have been acting their butts off in their fighting. That look Steffy gave when Kelly told her who saved her...PRICELESS. I am hoping that Finn punches Liam at some point. Now that Hope is gone, he's been nag, nag, butt, nagging his way into Steffy's marriage. He's been unhanded with that whole Finn/Sheila hug thing. And now he wants to WHINE. BOY, BYE!!! Finn better fight for his girl. I admit that I kinda like that the fact that Steffy and Finn never testified against Sheila is the reason that she's out now. So basically BILL'S fault. lol. And I will always love how when news gets out, it is revealed graudally to the characters. It makes me think of old school soap and I can't hate on that. Though I wonder where Sheila goes from here and how it effects Deacon who has been doing well. I will never not keep holding for Round 2 of Li vs Sheila.

Well...good to see Christine at least.

Ugh! Beat his a$$, Finn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OC MID-SEASON TRAILER!!! Haven't started the season yet, but DON'T MESS WITH TAYLOR!!! SHE'S OKALHOMA NOW!!!! LOL

DISCUSS!!!

So is any of those weddings going to happen? Is Christine going to FINALLY get Giggly Heffa? Are we getting more Leeanna Love? DISCUSS!!!!

7-21 I don't care for Liam trying to be a spoiler for Steffy/Finn, but I LOVE seeing Finn tell Liam what time it is before the hearing. I could almost be there for a rivalry if it means Finn keeps being a boss like that. That said...I'm Dollar Bill...ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????????? Sheila got off again. And why? How?

7-25 Hehe at Leeanna Love. I would rather have her in the flesh, but that webpage was a hoot. And she was so deliciously shady. I am impressed at how Ashley and Tucker have switched places. Ashley has been in the driver's seat with Tucker as a sidekick. So to watch Tucker turn the screws to someone with Ashley giving commentary (and ED holding her own as she always does) and still seeing chemistry...LOVE. Speaking of ED, I be seeing some Kristen Dimera in these last set of episodes, but I'm not even hating. Are we sure that DD is only complaing again because they recently said on air that Paul is on walkabout...not unlike his father before him...when Heather was talking to Christine? Chance is looking like a whole a$$ snack on his date with Sharon. Remodeled or not, I was VERY happy to see the Chancellor Mansion again. And I am hoping that since Abby and Devon are throwing the Tucker/Ashley wedding there that 1) they do get married and 2) that means we are going to see more of it and OTHER rooms. Fingers crossed.

RHOM Really, Lenny, REALLY???? Lisa's response.... If anything, they are filming the reunion too soon for me...especially now that they are just now starting to dig into the Drew divorce. I don't know why everyone keeps saying that about the seating chart. When I saw the sitting chart, my first thought was that everyone is seated with their most likely recent sparring partner. I said it often last season and though it's been brief until the last few episodes (that I'm playing catch up on) Drew's best sparring partner currently IS Mrs. ShebySheBroke. It's not S8 Kenya vs Sheree, but it has its own charm to it...moreso now that Drew has had her glow up. I bet sparks will fly there...though it sounds like the reunion ended on a good note this year per Andy's clips...and also sounds like Kenya/Drew/Kandi won. Kenya and Marho...speaks for itself for being across from each other. Cuz repetitive or not, Marlo is Kenya's current sparring partner. Kandi and Sanya. Now that Kandi knows what Sanya has been saying in Confessionals and starting mess with Kandi online, Kandi would have lit her up. Cuz that has the making of a feud just from what has happened so far this season so she would be the current sparring partner for Sanya. Now she might have gone light due to Sanya's recent announced (congrats!) pregnancy, but I'm still sure Kandi will gather her. Other than that, yeah, I would think Kandi would be first seat only because she has been the drama this year. RHOM I know Lenny's mom DIDN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RHOA OOPS! Reunion dresses got leaked!!!!!!!!!!

7-21 You know what? That was...something else. The beginning of the week had Summer figuring out about Kyle/Audra. And she vanished off for days. Only to come back on FRIDAY and the dialogue given...was weak. And I put that down to the writing. Because AL was doing that thing that she does when she starts in one place and builds as the scene goes on. So THAT (and her last line) was great. But it should have been more of that. And I loved her slapping Kyle...and Kyle was being slimy in that moment. But the momentum was lost. The reveal to Summer (in front of Diane to boot) was good. That said...and speaking of Diane...the turning of the screws on her by Tucker, Ashley, and Phyllis...I admit that I kinda liked. Well, Tucker's part of it. Outside of Audra and Nate, no one has really been scheming and it's nice to see TSJ doing just that with Tucker. And oooooo at that Christine/Phyllis flashback. I hate they cut off the last part of it because I remember when MAB went there by revealing (after 20 years...remember when Y&R used to do that?) that Phyllis was the one to run down her and Paul. And that promo was great, too. It was the followthrough that sucked from what I remember. lol. Even anything I wanted Christine to get even more angry during their scenes. I always loved seeing Christine vs Phyllis. And I loved Christine could barely keep her anger when she was talking to Heather. My only worry is that we won't get to see the trial itself to be honest. Cuz Heather vs Christine in court over Phyllis...could be fun. As much as I'm happy to see Chance shirtless (and that foine butt) I found him and Sharon hooking up...abrupt? I know it's been coming but it had no flow to it versus the only times they been around each other and it felt like it was building. Just lost momentum again. Adam/Sharon/Nick together again. Uh.... I have found myself enoying Diane/Billy scenes lately. Billy/Chelesa still not so much.

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope it doesn't come to that. Well...it is overdue so we will see.

NY You know I found time to watch that first episode. And...I liked it. Like others have mentioned it does feel like the city itself is a character. And in that regards, Production did such a great job with all the location shooting. And I like the angle they appear to be going for with showing how New York is NOW. I do miss the OGs, but I do feel this could work. They are already doing the right thing by establishing that this is a group of friends NOT co-workers. That should allow it to be fun and authentic. And of course means the drama WILL be real. And in terms of Cheesegate...I thought it was a nice petty silly feud to start off the new era right. We were given the chance to get a feel for everyone. And I loved that it really was not that serious in the end. Or was it...? As for the ladies... UBAH. AYAN'S COUSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I liked her, but she was pretty much background. JENNA. Enigma and I LOVE IT. I was already hyped because everyone's reaction to her being casted. And then to find out we share the same birthday?? lol. Ooooh, watching her is like watching myself at times. And YES, how her house is designed...the mix of melancholy with a good vibe...is...accurate. And I liked that it's clear she is the Queen Bee among these girls and simply have to do NOTHING for it. I am sure that will be an issue as time goes on. And not only does she seem transparent about herself, but reserved at the same time. But not so reserved there isn't some fun shade in there cuz a house party with the food being the very drama everyone else was having...hahaha. SAI. I like her directness. I also like how she was able to prove her innocence in Cheesegate and keep it moving. JESSEL. Girl...your storyline is screaming DIVORCE. Shame cuz the hubby is kinda cute with stubble. Not since Lisa on RHOM have we gotten a divorce story in real time though and it might actually be raw and transparent so here for it. I also loved Jessel's mom and Jenna vibing. Sooooo cute. ERIN. I didn't think I would like her and she appeared plain in promos, but I really liked her. And I liked she was the narrator for us to get into who these girls are. And the shock of seeing her whole family who she currently does not look like. Just so much going on there. And I giggled at how she and her husband clearly can't keep their hands off each other. Awww...love. hehe. BRYNN. Hate me if you much, but I loved her. She looks like Rachel from ONE TREE HILL (and sounds like her) but she was giving vintage Brooke Davis (from the same show) and I LOOOOOOOOVE Brooke Davis so I enjoyed every moment she was on screen. No matter how silly. And (for now) she does not take herself too seriously. So far, so good. Will be back for more. LOVE. I really need to finish my binge. lol. And Kylie...WIN!!!

Ugh! Liam need to step off.