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I have said before a Brenda/Nik pairing weirds me out. In theory it's sounds okay, but Brenda knew Nik as a teenager. Even if VM and TC were together in real life the fact Brenda knew Nik when he was still in high school makes it a no go for me. It's not as bad as Emily/Sonny, but it's along the same lines. The wedding was very good IMO. Probably the best stuff Vanessa/Mo did besides their breakup at the end of her run. The show just didn't keep the momentum going post-wedding. They cut Brenda/Sonny's honeymoon and killed off Jake soon after. The interest was obviously there from the audience-the execution was just lacking. I would still say the interest is there in Brenda. I am not sure about the interest in Sonny/Brenda these days. I would probably tie her to Sonny at first then follow a similar playbook to KMc/Robin's return and hire someone else for Brenda's love interest and move her away from Sonny and into the Deception fold. I can't quite picture Brenda with anyone on canvas although Drew would probably be the most likely person.

Why not? These people aren't doing anything of value. This honestly has nothing to do with a pipedream of VM returning. There is a lot of dead weight on the cast currently. I would need a minimum of 2 year as well. too short. 3 months would be spent on expository about how awesome and cool Brenda is. Which agreed, but I don't need to actually hear it from every character.🤣

I think the actual date was 2/18/11, but it started a bit earlier

I actually think Vanessa is one of the few people who could demand a big fee. Even if her last returns weren't as great as the previous ones-the Sonny/Brenda wedding had big numbers. I think in theory she definitely has the body of work to back that up and you could easily cut 5 or 6 GH cast members to make it work and nobody would miss Easton, Cyrus, Diane, Chase's dad, just to name a few. That would easily cover Vanessa's cost, but that's totally up to Frank and how he wants to use his budget. Brenda just isn't a priority and I think that's Frank's preference as opposed to the overall audience preference.

I believe Vanessa said the show reached out to her for the 60th in a minor role. So perhaps Frank might want her for a cameo and buzz, but nothing substantial. And I can see her rejecting it on that alone. I think the days of GH begging Vanessa to return are long over and it might be an ego thing on her part. At the same time her latest returns have been lackluster so I could see the fact it's not a slam dunk ratings winner. I do think Vanessa is someone who knows her worth, but her worth might also be not as much as she thinks it is anymore. I personally think she brings enough hype and fanbase to make it worth it for the show. I don't think Frank sees it the same way though. I also don't think GH would ever go off the air without featuring Brenda in some capacity.

Actually, no. I don't think Frank cares for her much. It might be Vanessa's decision, but I don't think the show is actively reaching out to her.

I guess my question is why not put her in a major story? I don't expect her to run the canvas in the way the Brenda's returns tend to do, but more integration with the players of this SEC stuff would have helped. I agree she's not written out of character, but she also really isn't doing much. And unless Rena is completely against returning in a larger role this doesn't have to be a stopgap appearance. Even if it is there was a chance to integrate her with more of the cast so the next time she returns she fits better on the canvas. I mean 99% of my GH complaints are the fact Vanessa isn't here 🤣

I thought it was a decent cliffhanger. I couldn't be more over Cyrus if I tried. He has outlived his usefulness so long ago. I can't stand the way JK speaks his lines and the whole thing was a massive breach of Nina's privacy. And I hate Nina. The Lois stuff was good with Sonny. Instead of sitting and chatting with Olivia I do wish she was a little more in the mix of the Michael/Carly/Ned/Sonny argument. I just hope no one stops Lois from telling the truth and glad she quickly figured out what apparently no one else in PC could in like 5 mins lol.

I feel bad because Hulu put up yesterday's episode late and I watched it this morning and it does appear Lois is actually going to do something lol. I hope she does tell Sonny because she should. Lois really has no strong ties to anyone involved with this mess except Sonny so it makes sense. Perhaps that is the reason the show has kept Lois on an island. I still think it has been a waste of Rena's talents, but if she ends this boring SEC story I will keep my mouth shut.

I love 1994! Yeah, it isn't a slight to SSH. Victor was really the only available love interest for her at the time. I suppose the show could have created a love interest for her, but I don't think the audience wanted her with anyone other than Doug. As it was, Julie was spending a lot of time at Alice's restaurant meddling in the Tanner/Molly relationship. It just wasn't a great fit at the time.

Yes, I enjoyed those Sonny/Lois scenes, but I don't understand why there aren't more. Sonny actually spends days lurking around the Metro Court and the hospital-he can't have a few scenes with Lois? Wouldn't it be interesting if Lois took a liking to Nina and bonded with her before she finds out she turned Carly/Drew in? Speaking of Carly, Lois seemed to be TeamCarly yesterday, but are they friends or friendly*? You could introduce Lois to a whole new set of characters around town and create new relationships, but she's just not doing anything except drinking wine at the Q's. *Lois should not be friends with Carly just because of her longstanding bff status with Brenda, but since Brenda currently doesn't exist and Olivia is her bff now I'll allow a Carly/Lois friendship.

I can actually see why SSH was let go as well. Between Maggie, Kate, Vivian, and Laura there wasn't a lot for SSH to do. I would take Marlena/John out of the equation because they were still playing "younger" than that group in the 90's. I think if Julie would have had better staying power if both Doug and KA's Hope returned a little earlier. I really never saw any parallels to Julie/Vivian until reading that. It is true Vivian did take Julie's place. I have trouble picturing Julie vs. Kate though.

I don't even know if I think Lois has been written like a cartoon. Lois is just written boringly. It's as if she has no life or agency of her own. She is only on the show to react to other people's issues. I absolutely agree she should have feelings about Olivia marrying her ex-husband, but I would also like to know what she's been doing the last 25 years. I hate when shows basically put characters on pause in their lives. It's as if Lois has just been hanging out in Bensonhurst for the last few decades doing nothing of note. I also don't know why Lois can't interact with non-Quatermaines. Why doesn't she have scenes with Carly, Sonny, Nina, even Ava? I know a lot of the cast she interacted with is long gone, but it seems like a waste to have her hanging out in the Q's kitchen for 2 months.

I meant to post this earlier, but I was watching Thursday's episode and why aren't they giving Rena/Lois anything to do? All she does is talk to Olivia. We are told Olivia/Lois were bff since they were kids, but I have literally no investment in this friendship. Can't she have interactions with the rest of the town?

The show (John) made a joke about the square being indoor when it started snowing in The Beyond Salem Christmas movie. Whether it's a true fact still I don't know. Looking on the internet some people say the roof can open up? It seems to be a source of confusion in general.

The episode aired in July 1996, so you are correct. Marlena was in the cage at this point.

Yikes you weren't lying about Theresa's outfit @AbcNbc247. So ugly! Holly's descent into hardcore drugs was quick. A lot of teenagers get drunk and smoke pot lol, but most don't hit the hard drugs after getting drunk once. Although I know a lot of teens do take Adderall. That OD was pretty graphic too. Nicole was very dressed up to go nowhere. The Xander/Sarah stuff was a little out of place, but Sarah didn't annoy me like she usually does so that's a win. I think I actually wouldn't have minded seeing Paulina/Abe. I think Stephanie had the best dress today. She looked really nice.

Lol! I try. The MLM and anti-vax stuff we can point directly at Steve and find offensive. This situation is just awkward and embarrassing. I don't have enough info to blame Steve for it. Tbh, I think the ex-wife comes off worse, but the circumstances are so vague no one may be at fault here. Anyway, this has nothing to do with current GH so I'll move on.

I think SBu is a jerk for a variety of reasons, but not because of this. Sheree decided to announce she was pregnant. People were congratulating him on the new baby. He was forced to clarify. The obvious thing would have been to announce their separation and then announce her pregnancy. I honestly don't know how else he could have handled it. Ideally, the two of them would have come up with a game plan together for the public and their children, but this doesn't seem like the most cordial of divorces lol.

Yes, it seemed to be very mishandled. If HP was honest with GH and immediately checked into treatment perhaps she would have been given more grace. A sincere apology and her taking accountability would have gone a long way. I don't know why her parents and people around her weren't advising her to make better choices post accident. It put GH in a very big bind when they thought it was a temporary recast only.

LA was recast before HP's legal problems. Same in regards to LA. This is nothing she couldn't play well. BAS Molly was written to be in the cast because HP did break her leg/had a leg injury. Whatever HP told GH/Frank, I think it was assumed she'd be back shortly and her injuries would be written in.

Yes, I can't believe LA is over 30. She could still play a teen believably. I agree the OG Davis girls were fine. I really like Kate Mansi though. I just think LA was nowhere near the top of my list of people to get rid of on GH. She needed more material. She was really good, IMO and could have done this story justice. It's not a huge deal because I think KM will slay this material too. I just think LA was done wrong by GH after years of being a very serviceable team player.

I don't doubt you are correct, but LA played the character for years and also won an emmy for it. I think Haley Pullos and Lexi Ainsworth would have done fine with this story. Kate Mansi is a "get", but I don't think Mansi is that much better of an actress than Lexi. They are both very good. I do, however, concede to your point that LA's looks might have played into it. She still looks so, so young. I am not complaining about Mansi. I think she's doing great. I just don't think the material was out of Lexi's range either.

It's weird to me because I think Lexi could have handled this current material just fine. I know she said it was a "mutual" decision between her and the show, so maybe she didn't want to work that much? Anyway, Kate Mansi is doing great, so I don't have any complaints. I just don't know why the show felt a need to go in a different direction.

I'll be honest, the Paris webisodes were pretty boring IMO. Austin being in them was weird, but I do think it's one of the first Li Shin appearances! Unless you're a Chad/Abby completionist (which I am certainly not) I can't really recall anything too exciting happening. The Last Blast webisodes were much better.