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Wow...it's so sad to see how far DAYS has fallen even with new episodes. Of course, it's hard to know what impact preemptions have. It's almost always preempted with Covid announcements where I live...which is the second biggest US market. I usually have to watch online. It's going to be hard for ALL of the shows to build back their audience as more people get out of the habit of watching. Covid is to soaps what OJ was to soaps in the 90s. The problem now is there isn't as much room to fall.

1 hour ago, David_Vickers said:

 Lindsay Arnold (Allie) should be put on contract pronto, same goes for Ali Sweeney!

Totally agree about Allie...she's a find and her character helps expand the Hortons. 

I sooooo wish AS would return for a longer stint...even six months. The show immediately got a needed jolt when Hurricane Sami returned.

12 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I think the actress playing Allie is terrific. Honestly, i don’t see how they could have cast the role any better. 

 

Jake as a twin? Predictable but acceptable. Barash gets to play a different character and seems to enjoy it. Let’s see where it goes.

Allie is a great find for DAYS! I hope they have the sense to keep her (and hopefully keep Lucas around more).

While Jake and the twin thing isn't the most exciting it's a nice change of pace to have someone NOT come back from the dead. People dying on DAYS had no stakes for the viewer or the story for so long now because you know Dr. Rolf's serum will just bring them back. Dr. Rolf and his serum need to disappear...permanently!

46 minutes ago, EllenP said:

There wasn’t enough Macy either. For such a prominent character in the show’s first 15 years, she gets crumbs. I’d like yo see Bobbie Eakes return. 

I'll never forgive them for killing Macy....TWICE!

On 7/11/2020 at 1:51 AM, FrenchBug82 said:

My personal take on the Gwyn as a DID murderer is that it doesn't really make sense in the context of the history of the show: rewatching the episodes knowing she'd end up murdering many of those people is a jarring experience.

The reason I accepted it was because it was out of the door, it was quite a shocking (in a good way) reveal and boy did CT sold it with everything she had. And it was so good that I appreciated it very much - as an end to the show and the character. If this had been a plot during the course of the show, I would have reviled it as a plot contrivance that ruined a good character.

Also, I think the reason the Loving murders are so fondly remembered was because, of all the soaps that went off the air and I include primetime soap, this is undeniably the most coherent long story arc that has been written to wrap a soap. It was an incredibly bold choice and it was a story from beginning to end that did provide a proper end to the characters the show wanted to drop before the reboot.

Was it always well-written? No. But Loving was a low-rated cheap show. That it allowed itself to be creatively ambitious and memorable for its end is something to celebrate and considering how it often did during its run, this was actually a step up.
Thinking how so many other soaps ended a rushed damp noodle, I still think the Loving murders hold up fine.
The City, however, was a good concept on paper (changing the stilted look of a soap would certainly be at the top of what I'd try if I were to create one today) and had some ballsy ideas for the times (trans character for instance) but was ultimately, well, not very good. But the fact the spotlight on Loving at the end was on closure for the characters that would not make it over makes sense to me; as a fan I would have resented if they had used the end of Loving more as a springboard for the City. They actually made the end of Loving about Loving and, for that too, I give them credit

Does anyone know how the ratings were at the very end of the Loving murders? Did the story perk up the ratings at the end?

Even though Sami was never my favorite DAYS character...every time she comes back it FEELS like DAYS again. Whatever little money they have left they need to throw at AS and get her to stick around for at least a year.

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

Olivia is working for Doctors Without Borders.  She sent her condolences when Neil died.

And yes it's criminal that the character of Olivia has been alive all these years but we never see her.

Having Olivia back as the matriarch for the Barber/Winters clan would be such a great idea to make the family more prominent. What are we left with now? Nate (who's incredibly hot, but doesn't get a story), Devon, and Lily appearances. If Olivia was there as the mother-figure to all three it would really complete the family.

1 hour ago, ChitHappens said:

 

It's hard to believe people thought Days, who's possibly done THE biggest disservice to black character/actors, would fire Missy for liking a tweet.  Sigh...

Although, I do wonder about the whole "if there's smoke there's fire." I wonder if it was in discussion by TPTB.  It's been hard for me to watch MR or support the character of Jennifer since the whole Chick-Fil-A mess.

34 minutes ago, Dylan said:

how would wardrobe and makeup etc work?  not a big deal since GL actors got changed in a 7/11 bathroom but

From what I've read, each actor will have their own make-up kits to not have cross contamination. Also, actors will be required to remove their own make-up at the end of the day.

7 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

In all fairness, the cancellation was all but inevitable by the time she came in.

7 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

In all fairness, the cancellation was all but inevitable by the time she came in.

True...the writing was probably on the wall when she joined. While I took issues with a lot of what she wrote, especially how the Walkers suddenly ate the show, just curious as to what others think she wrote right...or stories that had potential if the show would have lasted.

6 hours ago, chrisml said:

 I also was a fan of the Laura/Annie/Bunny stuff which got more wacky during his time.

I LOVED the character of Laura once she went crazy!  Bunny was a favorite, too. 

41 minutes ago, Capridge said:

 

Unfortunately I didn't like the Dobsons' return all that much either. I loved the dinner party episodes with Pamela (some of the best scenes on the show EVER), but I didn't like how they had Mason act like a spoiled brat who used video cameras to spy on people. It didn't work, and I'm not sure it would have worked with Lane Davies in the role either. Mason was so vicious and mean and his motives didn't make much sense (Why did he even hate Warren? Why did he want to torture Cassie so much when he didn't even love her?). Flame and Michael were probably his most popular pairing, but they didn't work for me either. Michael had been such a good friend to Cruz/Julia/Eden for years and to turn him into a bitter drunk that looked down on everyone did the character a great disservice.

 

Also, the Cassie storyline had been pretty intriguing & mysterious (she was becoming an Elena-like character that seemed to have it in for the Capwells & the brotherhood), but when the Dobsons took over, she suddenly turned into a tortured heroine. Mason and Julia should have found out about her schemes.

 

Most of the Dobsons' new characters were plain boring (David, Katrina etc.), they got rid of the wrong characters/actors (Laken, Augusta, Craig, Carrington Garland's Kelly) & they focused on the wrong characters (Katrina got more screen time than Craig & Kelly for months). And the storylines they inherited from the previous team they didn't really fix and their stories pretty much ruined relationships (Augusta having fantasies about her sister's rapist, Cruz not recognizing Eden/Suzanne). I get that they wanted to do forbidden love, but Dash/Augusta and Michael/Flame did not work IMO. And they focused way too much on Jack Wagner.

 

And the worst part was that the show became so wordy. There were all these endless scenes at the Oasis and there was little very action.

 

What I did like was Rosa's return, and the dinner party, but Rosa was rarely used and Pamela was gone within a week. Angela was a great new character. I'm glad they tied her to the Capwells in 1992. She really fit in there.

I remember being very excited when the Dobsons came back, but yes, much of their work fell flat.

Cassie had such great potential to be a real force to be reckoned with and having her turn out to be Minx's daughter helped bolster the Lockridge family. But, having her turn out to have had a love affair with Warren seemed so odd, and they had to reconn Warren's birth father to not make them aunt/nephew.  Warren's birthfather was never revealed (I suspect they were planning on making it CC), and it all served no purpose in the end. Cassie went nuts and was shipped off. 

Getting rid of Carrington Garland's Kelly had to be one of the biggest casting mistakes of all time for the show. She was the perfect one to step into Eden's role as lead heroine.

I too thought Flame and Michael had potential...sigh.

I did enjoy Rosa's return as I thought she was such an interesting character and more of a mother figure to the Capwell kids than Sophia had actually been, especially to Mason. Mason had hinted that CC somehow stole valuable land from the Andrade family, but that plot point evaporated, too. The Santana recast flopped because of personality issues between the actress and the cast.

August and Dash was a horrible idea from the word go.

6 minutes ago, chrisml said:

@Capridge I agree with you for the most part, but I do think Flame/Michael worked quite well. I think it was the only relationship that worked during their stint because the characters were not dumbed down to make the plot work. The Dobsons seemed to like writing for Flame so it's a shame the backstage stuff got in the way.  I wonder sometimes if the Cruz/Suzanne stuff was the Dobsons getting back at A. MArtinez for supporting Phelps. It plays that way to me. 

Cruz/Suzanne was such a boring story...not to mention implausible.

4 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

BYE!!! She's a talented young woman who had a ton of potential when she first came on, but Ciara the Ben cheerleader is unwatchable. I can barely make it through episodes where she's on (which isn't her fault, but the writing for Ciara is just horrendous).

When she first came on I thought they hit casting gold. She just sparked from the first scene and felt like Bo's daughter. Then the Ben pairing came along and totally sunk the character. How can you root for someone who is in love with a serial killer??? Such a waste. Ciara had a lot of potential.

I'm not surprised...but are we still stuck with Ben, too? Nothing against the actor, but again...I can't root for a serial killer!

Just now, AbcNbc247 said:

Agreed.

 

It does sort of feel like the show is trying to do that now with certain storylines. They just need to put all of the OTT stuff to rest and get back to basics.

A step in the right direction is getting rid of the Dr. Rolf character and his "serum." Death on DAYS means nothing anymore as there are no real stakes. If someone dies, even if their head got cut off, you know they can be back in a few months, so why even care.

Just now, John said:

 

 

Maybe KA feels the same. The budget is so low, even though I LOVE DAYS I just cant anymore

The budget is really impacting the show...to the point of often being distracting while watching it. They can't really tell these mustache twirling villain or brain chip stories on a dollar store budget. The only way it can work, IMO, is to focus on interpersonal relationships and family dynamics. It will take a whole rethinking of the show.

56 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Can she take Ciara and Ben with her?

 

We can't be that lucky!

While the writing for Hope hasn't been there for a few years, I will miss KA. Hope is one of those characters that makes DAYS feel like DAYS  for me.

1 minute ago, John said:

Kristian

Camila 

Freddie

Chandler

Galen

I have a feeling when they renigoiated with actors in early 2020 it was a lot of take it or leave it and I bet we see more exit

Is it confirmed about Camila? In my opinion, her character type is really needed on the show.

10 hours ago, Alan said:

 

It was so unique for an American soap to have a backlot set. I would rather have this than Horton Square, which reminds me of Sesame Street.

The backlot shooting also helped the show feel more "open." Now, everything feels tiny and cramped. I have a feeling that Horton Square is about 20 feet wide at the most.

22 hours ago, StepBack said:

 

 

Also, Joshua Morrow is a stud. Damn. He's aged very well

True...I think he's even hotter now!

2 hours ago, Darn said:

 

Remove Amber and Deacon, they got a lot of good story and left when they were running out of gas. The others I agree with. It's wild to me that the show's premier couple don't have their only child together on canvas. 

I thought Reign Edwards was an especially good find for the show and a great actress. It's a shame they couldn't find a way...yet again...to fully integrate an AA character into the show.

1 hour ago, GLATWT88 said:

 I know LA is forward and the fashion and media industries are large employers of LGBTQ+ people, interestingly lacking on the soap, but I still believe it would have been a lot harder for the family (at least some) to wrap their head around.

This! I know B&B is a half hour show with only so much room on the canvas, but to set a show in the fashion industry with no LGBT characters and in Los Angeles with no Latino cast members has never made sense. 

If one thing today's "classic episode" reminded me was what a waste it was to have the actress who played Maya return briefly after maternity leave and then let her know...ending her marriage to Rick with a vague "didn't work out." They had to have known they weren't going to keep her around, so she could have just visited LA while Rick stayed in Europe. Their wedding was a first on daytime and to end it...when the actor isn't even on the show anymore...just didn't make sense and felt like a letdown if you had invested in the story at all.

On 6/4/2020 at 9:29 AM, Soaplovers said:

Jill and Katherine feud lasted too long...from reading past history.it seemed like Bell semi ended it in 1980 with the two going separate ways..with occasionally interactions between 1980 and 1984.  It became pointless by the 90s..imho

Even as a kid watching it with my mom, I didn't understand why these two women who hated each other so much were constantly showing up at each other's home to talk! lol

My favorite though was one time when Esther told Katherine that Jill had just showed up at their house, and Kay said, "That's funny. I didn't hear her broom pull up."

wow....

https://tvline.com/2020/06/24/melissa-reeves-racism-days-of-our-lives-instagram-controversy/

5 hours ago, David_Vickers said:

DAYS should fire Melissa Reeves this time.  I love Jennifer and have been a Melissa Reeves fan since her days as Jade Perkins on SANTA BARBARA. But she most definitely should be given  a  chance to apologize, I guess first.  IF she refuses, then fire her ass and re-cast.  Beth Chamberlin (ex-Beth, GL), Cady McClain (ex-Dixie, AMC, ex-Rosanna, ATWT, ex-Kelly, Y&R), Gina Tognoni (ex-Phyllis, Y&R ex-Kelly OLTL, ex-Dinah GL), Sandra Dee Robinson (ex-Amanda, AW, ex-Felicia, GH), & Krista Tesreau (ex-Mindy, GL, ex-Tina, OLTL) are some of the opts I've come up with who could take over as Jenn.  I think Beth Chamberlin and Sandra Dee Robinson are the best options looks wise. 

Gina Tognoni could be fire in the role (still can't believe Y&R let her go!) and take it in a whole new direction...maybe free Jennifer from the Jack union since both characters are kind of written in a corner at this point.

Loved todays classic episode with Stephanie confronting Brooke about being pregnant with Deacon's baby. It was the trashy, soapy goodness B&B used to excel at back in the day. KKL and SF had such great chemistry. I loved their fights! I never bought them as friends at the end.

Was surprised to see Kristen, Antonio, Zende. Antonio was soooo handsome. I feel like they ended up just wasting the character after having a big intro for him. The HIV story was timely, but it also virtually wrote him in a corner.

15 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Probably the same attention span problem he had to bring Macy back alive and then killing her off again in less than a year. Ugh.

 

B&B was so good 2000-2005 but he always sabatoged the momentum somehow. 

Having Macy killed off...twice...is one of the worst decisions the show ever made. She was always one of my faves, too.