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    The Tennis Thread

    in Off Topic Lounge

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    1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

    Yum....Tursunov has always had a hot bod.

     

    I'll always remember his Davis Cup exploits in the mid '00s.  

    2 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

    Halep vs Bertens....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

     

    2 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

    Ditto!

     

    Same.  

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    Facts of life Reboot

    in Primetime

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

    Not to mention "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" where Vivian got a personality transplant and a severely diminished role after Janet Hubert was replaced by Daphne Maxwell Reid.

     

    Whew, that's opening a whole can of worms!  Clash of personalities, colorism issues, possible sexist leanings, backlash and a lot of it poured out into the public for all to see.

     

    1 hour ago, Khan said:

    Didn't I read somewhere that Bill Cosby once considered killing off Clair Huxtable and having "The Cosby Show" revolve him raising the kids singlehandedly when there was some BTS issue w/ Phyllicia Rashad.

     

    Ew at the possibilities of having Cliff raising the kids by himself!  That show needed Clair for so many reasons.  Without her presence, maintaining proper balance would have been the least of the show's concerns.

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    Facts of life Reboot

    in Primetime

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    45 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

    Mrs. G didn't even need to move away. Just go on a long extended honeymoon and convince Charlotte Rae to come back for visits, but looking back I appreciate her wanting to "be done" so to speak. I actually feel badly for her. She was almost forced out of her own show, IMHO.

     

    Sadly, the squeezing out of the matriarchal figure happened a bit too frequently, when I think of shows like Good Times and What's Happening!  

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    As The World Turns Discussion Thread

    in DTS: Cancelled Soaps

    Posted · Edited by DramatistDreamer

    56 minutes ago, j swift said:

    Is it their departure in 1984 that causes the exodus of Burke Donovan and Gunner St. Clair?

     

    It seems odd to have two characters, in the same story, have fatal diseases that they want to keep secret from Dusty and the women they loved.

     

    Also, I'm sure that I'm not the first to notice, and I know that they are spelled differently, but it would have been fun if Henry and Maddie Coleman had been relatives of Joyce and Grant Colman.  That scene from the 50th Anniversary of Soaps when Joyce feigns a headache and Lisa tells her she wouldn't care if she had a tumor; gets me every time.

     

    Haha, that's actually @Mitch's quote though.  Mine was responding to his.  

     

    That is odd.  I was so young when that story aired that I wouldn't have truly understood it but by the way, you've just described it...sounds like I still wouldn't understand it.

     

    Having Maddie and Henry be related to Grant would've made a whole LOT more sense than having Henry related to James Stenbeck.  Also, it would've really made Maddie's connection to Lisa that much more meaningful had they done that.  Missed opportunity.

     

    5 minutes ago, Khan said:

    I think it was Bunim's attempt to emulate Y&R's lighting, which was similarly shadowy.

     

    Hm.  That's interesting. I'm not sure how I felt about Y&R's lighting back then but it seemed to work a sure sight better for Y&R than it did for ATWT, perhaps the difference in climates?  Being in sunny California vs. being in seasonal NYC?

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    As The World Turns Discussion Thread

    in DTS: Cancelled Soaps

    Posted

    57 minutes ago, Mitch said:

    EVERYONE had shadows on their faces..Jeff got it the worst...it was like the light over his head went out.  For Bunim and the Dobs wanting to make the show "youthfull" it is incredibly slow, dark, and depressing...the scene with Dee and David, which should have been heartfelt came off an slow and ponderous...and then there is no follow up in the scenes at Fashion...(at least have Lisa say, "What's wrong" and when she finds out the Stewarts are divorcing have a bit of a smirk...(an ode to Elle and Lisa's fued.)  The scene of Annie and Jeff are supposed to be romantic comedy I think but it just is flat...

     

    I do like the Lisa/Ariel scene...its like a Designing Women scene

     

    Probably Bunim's obsession with youth made her believe that dimmer lighting would somehow make everyone look younger, particularly the older cast members.  Who knows?

    2 minutes ago, j swift said:

    It is amusing that James tried all of these schemes from drug running to mind control to make money, meanwhile he could have lived off of Barbara's investment in Lisa 's company.  While James is trying to figure out how to manipulate his wive's dreams, Lisa is quietly inventing J Crew's entire business plan.

     

    James seemed much too chauvinistic to rely on Barbara to maintain his lifestyle and I suspect Barbara was attracted to that aspect of him.

    Before Hal, Barbara seemed to gravitate toward these chauvinistic types, brimming with machismo.  Maybe, not so much Brian, although the more he stood up to her and told her off, the more she seemed driven to keep him in her orbit.  Tonio and Duncan were both brimming with machismo.

    Also, James liked to live on the edge.  A quiet life with the 'missus' would never have appealed to him for too long.

     

    It kind of became a running joke, how many businesses Lisa had but I kinda loved that that she low-key had her hands in all these different companies. Every now and then, she'd exert her influence through one of her ventures, not in overt ways like Lucinda but in sly ways.

    We don't see much of that in today's daytime soaps.

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    As The World Turns Discussion Thread

    in DTS: Cancelled Soaps

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, j swift said:

    I was wondering if David was being played as having prodromal symptoms of his stroke because he cannot seem to recall his lines.

     

    Why was Fashions having such a boost in their sales?  I laughed when Lisa answers the phone call from Vermont and asks if they want to pay by cash.  Who knew Fashions Lmt was the prototype for Fashion Nova?

     

    Catalog sales, can you believe it??

    I believe Dee mentioned this to Barbara when they met in this episode.  I guess they all put together a fancy photo spread done in a layout in a catalog and distributed to buyers and maybe the well-heeled.  Perahaps Lisa and Dee and Ariel were heralding the achievement of reaching customers well beyond Oakdale.

     

    Come to think of it, it would have been interesting if Fashions and BRO did something to this effect with the Internet in the late 90s/early '00s.  Were there any scenes or storylines that dealt with the emergence of technology and its effect on businesses like Barbara's or Lisa's?  Or even Lucinda's? 

    (I remember seeing Craig learning how to use a computer when he started working for Lucinda, that was around 1984 and it struck me as probably one of the earliest uses of a computer that I'd seen on a daytime soap).

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    The Politics Thread

    in Off Topic Lounge

    Posted

    Some of you may remember Grechen Shirley as the Democratic candidate who petitioned the FEC to be able to use some of her campaign funds for childcare. 

    She's running against that xenophobe Peter King. 

    I wish her well, King represents a district that has repeatedly sent him back to Congress for at least two decades now, so I can only guess that much of his constituency represents his worldview or some variation of it--if not xenophobic like King, then certainly completely insular and quite close-minded which has been the hallmark of a sweeping portion of Long Island.

     

    She’s Trying to Pull an Ocasio-Cortez. Her Target: Pete King.

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    As The World Turns Discussion Thread

    in DTS: Cancelled Soaps

    Posted

    10 hours ago, Mitch said:

    Why is everyone in shadows? Did P & G not pay the electric bill..Jeff is totally obscured off to the side.

     

    :lol: I think they might have been trying to go for a dark and mysterious mood? Were they somehow trying to blend the lighting of Barbara's fantasy life with her real life environment?

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    Facts of life Reboot

    in Primetime

    Posted

    Has anyone seen this?  I came across this at total random.  Does The Biography Channel know their clips were used to make this video?

    Anyway, it was interesting to me because I'd never seen it.  A lot of these facts were well known but still interesting.

     

     

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    The Politics Thread

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    Posted

    4 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

    They already did lose them in 2016 and we all saw the result. Bernie Sanders lost the democratic nomination by 4 million votes not because of rigging. Much of that was due to turning off the democratic base. What politician running under the democratic umbrella intentionally turns off he party’s voting base and calls them low information voters. The guy who didn’t  bother to campaign in the south, lost those primaries, and then called black folks stupid that’s who. And those white lefties who didn’t get their way did what? Didn’t vote or  voted for Stein. A temper tantrum because they didn’t get their way. And deliberately wanted to hurt the people who didn’t vote for their savior.

     

    black people have different interests? Yeah survival. Where these white lefties know they won’t be hurt. Look at Georgia a state where the first black woman ever in the country  can be elected Governor . She’s doing it by working the party base hard and democrats. She’s not going after voters she knows won’t vote for her no matter what. And what do black voters get in return? Georgia announcing the closure of dozens of voting sites in black communities. I wonder what those white lefties will do about this?  My guess not a thing. But would expect black folks to turn out in record numbers in that state to vote for someone who wasn’t even interested enough to visit the state in the primary and calls them stupid. 

     

    +1 on your entire post here.

     

    I read about the closure of voting sites yesterday in Georgia and don't expect it to get much notice at all, and the "progressives" of the party are no exception to this neglect.

    In fact, I don't remember Bernie or his "Revolution" mentioning Abrams at all but that's no surprise, this falls into his usual pattern of indifference.

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