Everything posted by Soaplovers
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Sisters Discussion Thread
The Georgie story made sense up to the Dr. Caspian plot. She was the peacemaker, she was the one to cover up her mother's alcoholism, she was the one that kept the family together. She had this need to always be the one for others to depend on, and realistically having to deal with her husband being unemployed, her son's cancer, and then her other son's issues caused Georgie to break. I actually think Georgie's story was in character.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I know a few people that are attorneys, and cases like the one Naomi is handling generally settle out of court and usually the settlement is a bit less than what was offered by Bill. Casting needed to do a better job with the three plaintiffs because they didn't act as if they're competent at their jobs.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
Run Andre Run! You're far too young and sweet to attach yourself to someone damaged and pathetic as Dani. Shame if Eva does turn out to be related to him, because he has the best chemistry with Eva..imho With that said, there was no point in featuring Dani today. It's basically rinse, lather, and repeat...and the viewers deserve a break from her. Vanessa/Diego stuff would have been more effective if social climber Hayley was on and discovered the two together. It would have been an effective first step for Hayley to gain entry into the country club world without Bill's help.. and she's already shown that she has potential to be a problem solver. Bill/Naomi had some great father/daughter scenes. I've always believed that Chelsea is going to be a tougher nut to crack for Bill than Naomi. Chelsea has the added weight of being caretaker for Dani.. so she has to have some resentment toward Bill that runs deeper then Naomi's (whose resentment is far greater for Hayley than Bill). Martin/Smitty family scenes were well written.. but I'm more interested in whatever Martin is hiding and how that will affect his marriage, career, and his relationship with his kids. Tyrell and Samantha shouldn't be leading story.. they're teens. Maybe the show should have held off introducing them into the summer (the traditional time when teens were featured in stories).
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Sisters Discussion Thread
What I loved about the show was that the first two or three seasons reminded me a spoof of a primetime soap opera with the close knit family and all the various men that came and went from the sisters lives. When the show veered into the darker subject matter, it lost the charm/whimsy of the earlier seasons. In regards to the Georgie/John story... I remember the high school or college reunion where John was wanting to get back together with Georgie because he realized how badly he was treating her.. and she turned him down flat because she was 'in love' with the Dr. I think the final episode where the two looked to be taking the first step toward getting back together was a good ending. Since she did push away her husband and realized once she was single that she really threw away her marriage.
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ALL: Best character FEUDS
Of Erica's contemporaries.. Brooke and Barbara were Erica's best fued. Of the next generation down, Annie was Erica's best feud... especially when both were at Oak Haven. The way Annie kept reminding Erica that she was no better then her, that she also had stabbed a man, and then wondered out loud 'And people think I'm the crazy one' once she found out about Janet/Erica's burying Kinder in her backyard.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Ironically, Rachel regained some of her spirit and former personality during the year that Carl was presumed dead. The way she helped run Cory Publishing during a spell, quickly deduced that Jordan Stark was not to be trusted, and during the time he was holding her hostage, she was trying to figure out ways to escape to help save her daughter Amanda from him. Those actions reminded me of the Rachel of old instead of the Rachel that seemed in a trance once she/Carl got together in late 1993/early 1994. The one smart thing the show did do on the final episode was have the final scene be Rachel looking at all of the photos in the Cory living room before she and Carl head upstairs to bed.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
This story has/had the potential to be very nuanced and not so cut and dry. All three women have proven to not be very bright so I'm betting that the performance reviews all three received at work were legit, but because slimy Mike had harassed all three women.. they have a case. The ironic thing is that Hayley might actually have deserved the promotion, but because of the actions of Mike and also her having an affair with Bill.. that is called into question. There have a few instances where Hayley has displayed skills that would make one a good paralegal. She's detail oriented (she figured out Dani had broken into their house), she's rightly questioned certain statements from Bill, had a few good points in her interactions with Naomi, and today's pregnancy talk was in an area where she's manipulating him.. but also be upfront/pro-active. Maybe they'll be a twist and Bill won't let her opt out of the case because of his pride and wanting to go up against the best. In regards to todays episode: Today was a character development day, and Danielle Paige is settling in nicely as a soap opera script writer. The ironic thing about Kat/Tomas is that they might not be a long term couple because of her persona/looking down on Eva.. not because of anything Eva is doing to them. Dana is still the breakout character..imho.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Jessie and Calla could have worked if they'd kept the original dynamic and backstory of the characters. Calla was very cold and manipulative.. especially when she was guilting Lillian about helping her with Beth when they were penniless. Once Long left the writing team, Calla became just a love interest of Ross' and sucking up to Alexandra as her personal assistant... while Jessie was paired with Simon (which I recall even the actors that played Simon and Jessie were surprised about because it happened randomly). Staab, as shown later, was quite capable of playing a grey character.. but since this was the start of her acting career.. she probably didn't have the confidence nor instincts to apply layers to the character. Follyworld! I had completely forgot about that fan fic series, which was created by a Fletcher/Holly fan originally in order to give them story/airtime that the show wasn't giving them. If I recall, the fan fic writers wrote some interesting stuff for Holly, Fletcher, Beth, Nick, Phillip, and even Tangie had an interesting story arc. I believe that the owner of the website welcomed freelance writers, but it's been so many years that I don't recall if that memory is accurate or not.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Rebecca Staab as Jessie, Beth's cousin. As everyone is aware, Beth's cousin was supposed to be named India Raines, or something along those lines. She was supposed to be a mischievous trashy cousin of Beth's that would come in and make life difficult for her cousin and aunt. When the role was originally being cast in 1984, both Mary Kay Adams and Kristi Farrell read for the part. The casting people liked both actresses and decided to create two characters for both actresses. Adams got the mischievous traits in a more posh/upper crust form while Farrell got the fun traits in a more trashy form. By the time that Long did introduce Beth's cousin.. the character had no interesting traits because those traits were given to India and Roxy and she was introduced a few weeks before Long left the show. Also, Staab was not able to make the character interesting and the writing didn't help either. The initial episodes that introduced Jessie and her mother Calla had a Toddler and Tiara type of set up where Calla seemed to have pushed her daughter into that world (even hinting at Calla pushing Jessie into unsavory things in order to win and be successful). That aspect seemed to have been dropped once Long left the show and Jessie was subjected to a Simon/Jessie/India triangle that went nowhere.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
There was one or two scenes where Samantha and Royce embraced.. and there was a moment where they felt uncomfortable because they enjoyed the embraced too much. And I remember the therapist said to both of them that it was normal for such a thing to happen because neither were raised together. I think that was to set up the later story where Samantha was a con artist, and I wonder if she was originally supposed to be a con artist and that was changed.. or if that whole arc was a red herring to provide conflict for Lucinda. The only other time where Emily, as played by KMH, was written decently was during Culliton's brief stint as head writer when she was dating the teacher Jef. She was written as trying to be a good person, but her past baggage was so massive that she ended up driving him away because of her ability to be her own worst enemy. After that story, the character didn't really get consistent writing nor layers.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Simms, like Melanie Smith of ATWT fame, had this ability to be sensual and tortured at the same time. Both women would have thrived in the 1940s during the film noir era as the femme fatale and/or anti heroine. Both actresses made their characters on GL and ATWT so distinctive/memorable that it was virtually impossible to recast both parts. I'm still confused as to what the show was going for when Ann Hamilton was cast as Mindy. Her Mindy seemed like an Annie Oakley type with a bit of the spoiled/princess vibe that Krista T played... but without the sensual/tortured vibe of Simms. Barbara C was known for playing quirky and comedic characters.. but her Mindy was almost too mature and angry.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I think to Boomers like my late mom, she would have though the Royce story was a great Marland story. She was bummed about Neal being murdered though since that meant that the character couldn't come and go like Adams other character India. If I recall, Royce realized in his integrated persona didn't really love Emily in the way that she deserved to be loved. There were scenes of him having dreams where he was with Emily and she turned into Julie so he did the right thing by not marrying Emily... but I think choosing to do it at the altar was in bad form. The Royce leaving Emily at the altar story, to me, altered the Emily character and how KMH approaching playing the character. Before that event happened, she played Emily as more level headed, guarded, and more of a grey character. After that event happened, the show and actress really delved into her neurotic tendencies.. and the character never returned to how she was written pre-Royce. After the marriage altar event, he spent the last few months of his stint flirting with Julie a few times, getting to know his twin, a brief situation where Royce/Samantha felt something when hugging, and then was tested some with Shannon before he left the show.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Pam Long wasn't writing the show when Josh returned in 1986. When I watched the scenes where Reva and Josh came face to face in late 1986, I was baffled at how quickly Reva just accepted Josh back in her life and arms.. especially after the conversation they had where he admitted he knew of her suicide attempt and didn't even care to reach out to her, etc. When she returned as head-writer in July/August 1987, she was the one to bring on Sonni as his thought to be dead wife.. and also split Josh/Reva up. He was written as more judgmental. In regard to Josh/Harley, the set up for the two started back in late 1989/early 1990 with the two clashing with one another during the whole Dylan paternity story.. and Reva deciding to hire Harley with Josh not liking nor accepting her. Harley didn't really act like Reva because she didn't put up with his attitude and would push back against him. Had Robert Newman not opted to leave, or if he had an extra six months on his contract, I think the coupling would have been done more gradual. I always suspect that Pam Long and Calhoun were the ones pushing Mallet/Mindy because once both were gone, the show opted for Mindy/Nick and Malley/Harley.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
The one weakness that Ron C seems to employ in his episodes are the all too short scenes. To me, I'd rather have seen the Andre/Ted, Eva/Shanice, Eva/Silk Press Sheila, and Vanessa/Joey scenes be longer.. and cut out the Doug scenes and the Dani/Chelsea/Samantha scenes. We got some backstory from Ted's perspective on what was going on with Silk Press Sheila and Nicole. Now do we believe he only had that one affair? I'm on the fence about that. Shanice and Eva were a good combo, but I'd rather they be frenemies then friends since they're both so nosy and all Eva and Silk Press Sheila are a good mother and daughter duo. So Joey was previously married....hmmmmm. The show doesn't mention something like that unless it will come into play later. While I hate making characters related, making Joey the long lost father of Ashley would actually give her character some purpose since lord knows the show seems incapable of giving that girl any sort of purpose other then as the perky nurse. There was no need for Dani to be on today, and I feel that the writers will make her the Reva of the show.. and that isn't a compliment.
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
It worked out for Robin's favor, even though I thought Elaine was a superior actress.. but popularity always trumps talent sometimes. @DRW50I remember an interview with Ms Slezak where she confirmed that Sloan dying was the trigger for the return of her DID. She said she was sad that the return of the DID story would result in Sloan's death since she enjoyed working with Roy T. I do agree that the Sarah character was only revived as a thorn/obstacle to Bo/Cassie.. and not really because the character was beloved and missed. While Grace Phillips gave a good performance and infused Sarah with an edge/backbone, fans just didn't take to her because she wasn't Jenson. We look at Jenson through 2025 lenses, but back in 1991/1992.. Jenson was looked at favorably and was popular on OLTL during her stint. So even though a fairly good actress came onto the canvas to play Sarah, the show really didn't know what to do with her after the initial back from the dead story and being a suspect in Carlo Hesser's death concluded. It also didn't help that her on screen sister Megan passed away mere weeks after she debuted as Sarah either.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
The only thing I remember about the blizzard was that Mindy got stranded with Nick/Eve... and this was the first time you saw that Eve wasn't dealing with a full deck when she started taunting Mindy. Mindy had a look of disbelief/fear, but when Nick came into the room.. Eve resumed her normal demeanor. Lana could have been a stage name, or a way to rebel against the Reardons since she could have been the black sheep of the family. Or Lana is the americanized version of the Irish name Alannah
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
What the show is showing is that privilege comes from money and influence no matter what your gender, age, or race. Dani has skirted through life without ever suffering any consequences and it's why she's the entitled individual that she is today. It's also why she's taking the divorce so hard because this is the first time she's ever not gotten what she's wanted and she doesn't know how to deal with that. If she were played by a talented actress that could play the layers of hurt, pain, and regret.. then I could root for her. Contrast that with Silk Press Sheila/Dana/Lulu/Anna/Sherri.. who is also written as one note.. but the actress plays her with different shades and layers that you root for her. Hayley's fashion fascinates me. I almost wish she and Silk Press Sheila knew one another so that she could be taught how to shop. Although the writers need to really think about how they're writing Hayley's character.. mix her up with some of the other characters. In fact, one idea I had in regards to Hayley and her place at the country club is that she figure out Vanessa/Diego's work out routine and uses that to get Vanessa to associate with her. Although the fact that the country club/staff will still associate with Bill and not Hayley shows a double standard. Why only punish the other woman when it was Bill that violated his marriage vows and dumped Dani for Hayley? Why not give both individuals the cold shoulder instead of just one of them.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
According to the wiki website, it looks as though she and Eva moved back to the area in 2024 after the death of Alan. I think it was mentioned it had been at least six months or so since his death.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
That's fine, you don't have to care about Ashley. And yes, she lived with Dana her whole life, but I have a feeling this extreme behavior from Dana didn't really start until the death of Dana's husband Alan.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I think yesterday was another set up day for future story in regards to Ashley and I think this because of a few nuggets mentioned throughout the run of the soap thus far: 1) Ashley was the nurse attending to Laura in week 1 2) Ashley was falling asleep during a night out with Derek/Naomi/Jacob 3) Eva in episode #2 mentioned that she felt her life was in limbo compared to Ashley's, who seemed to have everything going well with her first day as a nurse. 4) People have been boasting about her being a miracle nurse since the elevator baby situation... even someone as nice as Ashley would let that go to her head. 5) Laura's one blood test result had potassium in it. 6) Ashley was spoken to about her clerical error with dosage of potassium even though she did give the right dosage. I have a feeling the show is setting it up where Ashley will be accused of causing the issues with Laura. If that doesn't happen, then the last 30+ episodes have been a waste for Ashley's character and the show is just running in circles with her character. If this happens , Silk Press Sheila has managed to derail the 'daughters' of both of her Have not friends... and all for Eva.. while poor Eva is probably going to feel guilty and not have proof of her mom's activities. And I have a feeling Shanice will be remember 'Lulu' and I also think maybe Andre might have filmed 'Lulu' looking up the test results (even though we didn't see him filming during that scene.. it still could have happened). Also, I think Anita's story will get started at the end of April and start to develop during May sweeps while other stories are hitting their peak, etc. And I noticed the actress playing Chelsea has finally hit her stride acting wise in these last few episodes. Soap acting is tough and it takes time to get into the groove of acting on a soap.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
If I'm not mistaken, the clerical error Ashley made on the chart was the dosage for Potassium... which was found in Laura's blood work. So I wonder if perhaps we got some foreshadowing of trouble for Nurse Ashley.
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BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
Silk Press Sheila adapting a southern accent as Lulu? I see that our nurse Shanice was onto her right away. The actress playing Shanice says so much with her eyes and facial expressions, and I fear for her safety since 'Lulu' now has her in her sights. Chelsea/Samantha scene was pretty good, and I have a feeling that once Dani gets wind of Samantha's dream.. she'll be on her like a pray mantis. With Chelsea not on board with Samantha's dream because of her own experiences.. I sense some mother/daughter conflict. Martin/Smitty on a date And no Martin, your line wasn't cheesy in the way that you probably thought it was cheesy. A double entendre is always my favorite line of dialogue. That last scene between Eva and Silk Press Sheila really shows that Eva understands that her mom is off her rocker. Unpopular opinion, but I didn't mind the Ashley scene today. In fact, it was the first time that the show attempted to give the character a little bit of depth and I think the actress did as well as she could. The show really needs a white Millennial/Gen Z script writer since the current script writers seem unable, or incapable of writing younger white characters effectively. Or the actors need to be allowed to modify their dialogue (Victoria Rowell used to do that on Y & R so not out of left field). And also Ashley and Derek were included in MVJ's bible.. but sometimes what works on paper doesn't always work when implemented.