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Yeah I know all about her feelings about that story. I believe I read an interview with her that she went right out and said they broke up a popular couple to help prop up JFP’s agenda with the Rappaports. Everyone involved seemed to love CH as Lindsay, and nobody seemed to enjoy working with KB as Sam.

Steve Burton actively tanked Jason/Carly, even to the press. Kelly Monaco tanked her reunion with Jason because she wanted to stay paired with her real life partner, Billy Miller, and then was just mad they wrote him off the show. Truthfully there was a lot of wrangling about couples by the actors on GH through almost all of the 2000’s, especially when JFP was there. Don’t get even started on whatever Sam/Jason/Liz was supposed to be and kept being dismantled by the talent.

Well we have Liz just suffering through another pairing to prop someone that is not working, give Jason to her. @Vee Did HBS and BW not want Bo & Nora? I seem to recall they both complained about the way JFP broke them up. I was under the impression they were in favor of the pairing.

I think Jason should be on the show, and I can’t stand Burton anymore. But I also don’t think a recast works at this point, how does a recast energize this fanbase? The lapsed fans stuff from Varni makes me think he will return. But Ingo is way worse and I hope we draw the line somewhere. I wonder if KM would actively tank the pairing like she did to stay with Billy Miller? Or truthfully did Steve tank it? It’s hard to tell.

I have been watching all the clips people have been posting online of JZ as Bobbie. She really was an anchor for the show. I know she had described feeling lucky that she was often in the counterpoint storyline- you had the action stuff, and then you had Bobbie in the more realistic stuff. The show should have always had a place for Bobbie. It is interesting that we watched both Bobbie and Laura going through a long lost child storyline at virtually the same time, within the same family, and it still was very compelling and didn’t feel like it was the same story. Because they both covered their own territory and beats.

She can have the money, but if I was the show it would be for 2 years, minimum, not a one year or less contract.

I appreciate anything that remembers Lois has a brain, and that she is nothing if not loyal. I know this is just a stopgap appearance, but since she wasn’t in major story this is a return that hasn’t really let me down. She seems like Lois, in character and present. My only complaint, and we have discussed it before, is that Vanessa isn’t here too.

GH- Maxie Jones Boyfriend- Jesse, killed by Manny Boyfriend- Cooper Barrett, killed by the Text Message Killer. Husband Matt, jailed for killing Lisa Niles Husband Nathan West, killed by Faison Fiance Peter August, killed by Felicia Dated Austin Holt, killed by unknown Avoid at all costs!

Exactly.

Really sad news! I loved his time on OLTL, especially his first stint and Angel Square. Such a sad year.

I will never forgive Frons and I assume JFP for Alan Quartermaine. I blamed Guza for years too but according to Michele Val Jean Guza didn’t want to kill Alan.

That would have been interesting! Nothing to worry about, if it’s in this thread I will get to it! I am also not religious, but I enjoy moments like this on soaps. Plus even as a kid I loved Dr Hardy. Thank you for posting it! Its interesting to think of the through line with the show- thanks to all the returns during the last decade, there are several cast members who shared scenes with both Dr Hardy and Jessie Brewer. The connection all the way to the beginning is still there.

That was cool, thanks for posting it!

That would have worked much better for me. Although I do love Adrienne Barbeau. I have not really enjoyed Hetrick in anything I have seen her in. I just thought Brenda’s mother should have been a bigger deal. The pace didn’t help, but I don’t think the actor did either.

I wanted to see the Aidan and Liz episode, really lovely. But the conversation with Maxie and Felicia that started the episode made me realize another partner of Maxie’s is dead to violence. I had blocked Austin and Maxie out, so it didn’t occur to me until they were talking about it.

I agree 1000%! And the end of that contract story with her mother was just stupid IMO. Her mother wasn’t cast well either!

I love the idea of having the news spread out over a couple of weeks and seeing people’s individual memories before the service.

The network and the show knew it wasn’t working either. They had Genie fired from All My Children and told her that she was welcome to come back to GH. And it pissed her off so much she held them off for like a year, while we suffered through more Bill. I actually did LOL at your Baby Ace comment @carolineg!

The truth is they needed a new dynamic, he wasn’t wrong about that. Genie wanted Laura to grow up too. So I do understand not wanting to just keep replaying the same things they had been doing for years. And even though we dislike his stated opinions about the pairing and his version of Luke, I never got the idea that he resented his co-workers or the show when he came back. And Luke without Laura would be darker. What he seems to resent were the people that wanted him to be 1981 forever. For as much as he hated the idea of Luke as a family man, nobody can deny he had a genuine onscreen connection with JJ and Bergman’s Lulu. And by all accounts the actors enjoy working with him, he’s bitchy and funny. If anything, I think he stayed too long. He should have left before he did, and probably didn’t because all of them assumed the show was going to end. Frank and Ron, for all their faults, did save the show. I think Maurice acts a lot like Tony did when the whole anti-Luke/Laura stuff started. He needs to make a decision soon too. I am of the opinion that Genie should have been given equal status with him in all areas, even as far back as the first run when they took off. He does his best work with her because she grounds him. Left to his own devices and energies, he can go very big. I like both characters, but I like Laura more. If only I was even remotely as interested in the show right now. I hardly post anymore because why complain about something others are enjoying. I can only say it was nice to see (fill in the blank beloved character) today, or stop being such a wimp Valentine!

You know, I recently read someone put this in a different context. That both of them hated actual acting directions in the script, verbally told writers and Riche to stop it, and GF said something to the effect of knowing when it’s the right time for Laura to kiss Luke, or cry, not just because it’s scripted. That could be entirely wrong, and we may never know the actual context of the refusal. As far as push back- Tony didn’t like working for Riche, and in one of his exit interviews told a story about her basically saying she was saving a spot on the wall for his balls, and him telling her that wasn’t going to happen. So obviously she didn’t take it as much as others did. And physical violence or not, Culliton wasn’t good at GH when it was his stories alone.

Wasn’t this one of his Y&R stories too? Vanessa Prentiss? I know she wore a veil, and tormented Lorie Brooks over her involvement with her son. Killed herself and framed Lorie IIRC.

Those fools at ABC should be so lucky. And I bet both of us could bring the ratings up while doing it too. Because lapsed audience is there, waiting for something worthy of these characters again! Someday you will have to share the budget busting endgame with us.

Brent/Marian Crane is a very dark story from beginning to end. So dark the actor had to take a mental health break from plying the character. On GH, the fire that “killed” Lucky. They played it so realistically that it was hard to watch. I don’t think I’ve very seen someone on a soap as devastated as Laura was. The scenes when Luke tells her, the morgue, and especially later when she was in Lucky’s room. Intense and harrowing.

IIRC, Marland was gone by the time the rape happened. And nobody at ABC was mandating things back then like they did later on, especially advocating for a controversial storyline. They knew he was staying, they went forward with the story, including Laura going to therapy and the slow dissolution of her marriage to Scotty because she was having (rightly so!) intimacy issues and also conflicted about her feelings for Luke. The show chose to play Luke bringing flowers to Laura in the hospital after the attack. And even though Genie finally gets to make her personal feelings clear about a rape romance, they both said that was when the characters fell in love- when he brought the flowers to her. It’s twisted and it’s dark, and nobody should be telling it as a romantic event today. And I think there is a place for a storyline like that, but without the attempts to smooth it over. Laura was a damaged person, and Luke raped her. Laura could easily have fallen in love with him even after the attack, because she didn’t have a chance at stability or a healthy relationship. If anything, choosing Luke guaranteed that Laura was going to live a life of instability, which adds to the later decision to cling to stability for her children. Making it a seduction instead of what viewers saw play out was the problem that the show has wrestled with since. I understand real world popularity lead to compromise in the story. Monty learned her lesson- she never told another actual rape storyline again, while copycat shows like DAYS repeatedly had women raped as obstacles in their supercouple formulas. Although Monica and Alan clearly had scenes of marital rape, they didn’t tell a story around it like L/L. @KhanI don’t think I wish Sonny on anyone either anymore. And I loved him with Brenda. But the end scene of her last full return with Sonny telling her power will always be the most important thing to him really ended them in a deep and adult way to me. He’s never going to be the man she deserves. Jax can also go to hell- on and off screen.

How awful. I’m not a fan, but this young woman lost her mother in real life. I don’t care how much someone loved Bobbie Spencer. Let her have some peace. Me too. I also wanted the bullying by Charlotte and how everyone chose to react to it once he came out to be played. Because that is real life, and that’s what soaps do best. And it was a realistic angle soaps haven’t done before- their young ages and the bullying by a relative/classmate due to him being LGBTQ.