All My Shadows

I don't see this ever leading to a new OLTL series. Who are OLTL's Kelly and Mark that would get a "Llanview" series rolling?

I really need to know for whom they are mostly making this. Are they more concerned with targeting old AMC fans (it’s been almost a decade since it left ABC...) or are they focusing on new viewers? That will be a big factor in whether or not we will be pleased. I don’t think we have to worry about a BH90210-style thing too much. That was Tori Spelling and friends wanting to have their own little fun and play pretend. I guess Kelly and Mark could be wanting the same type of thing, but it doesn’t seem likely. It feels weird to not be super excited but we’ve heard so many rumors over the years. Clearly, this has way more traction than anything we’ve heard in the past, but still. I need more.

Right!? Always managing to come around despite never having really watched much of AMC.

I hope you're right. I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but I'd be cool with a Doctor Who-type existence, where those who are into the "current" show can be in to it, but a new appreciation for the big, huge, original monster is cultivated. Surprised I'm the first to bring it up, but if this is a means to the end of getting more classic AMC officially released via streaming (or, preferably, DVD), then this can literally be Kelly taking a sht on Mark's belly every week, and I'll support it.

This mostly sums up how I feel. My fear is that AMC proper will become secondary to anything this new series tries to be, which could happen even if the new series flops. Even now, seven years later, 2.0 shows up more prominently than it should in a simple Google search for the show. This being a primetime thing could ultimately make it the "default" incarnation of the show, which...I can't go for that, booboo. To me, maintaining a certain tone and atmosphere is the most important thing about doing any kind of reboot, and some shows do it well (ODAAT, SBTB) while others don't (Charlie's Angels, Dynasty), so it's just a time will tell thing, I guess.

After falling in love with late 70s GL this summer, I have very little interest in watching much of the 80s because of how important these two characters were and then they just...were gone. It sucks when you think of the contenders they could have been by the 90s. I'm just gonna throw in all of the characters Alexander Cambias killed on AMC. I find most serial killer storylines unnecessary on soaps, but this one was clearly written bc they were completely out of ideas and did not know where to go next.

RIP, Barbara. Surely, any and every time I've ever gotten on an EE kick, Peggy was always at the center of my obsession. A true legend of British entertainment, and absolutely a member of soap royalty.

I think classifying it as a soap really depends on if one places more importance on content or format. There's really no right or wrong answer, it's just a matter of what you think is the bigger factor in making a show a soap. I'm still confused as to why Decades doesn't air all of the episodes. For most of their weekend binges, they start at the beginning of a season and just roll through as many consecutive episodes as they can. With "Family," they air episodes from all five seasons, and when it was on regularly each night, they skipped many episodes.

Helmut Berger was obviously checked out in most of his scenes. A character that should have had that typical Dynasty flare but gave absolutely nothing.

Isabella's IG post is killing me. This was such a great show. I haven't gotten a chance to see all of S4 yet (I know, Vee, I know), so I'm glad I still have more of it to enjoy, but I will miss it immensely. I'll never be thankful enough to this cast and crew for showing how you can take a classic series and update it without missing a beat.

I've loved that Jerrold Immel theme since the first time I heard it, but the sequence definitely doesn't match up to what I'd imagined in my head all this time. I always assumed it would be like the other Lorimar soaps, starting with some great scenic shots that set the scene, leading into a big, dramatic appearance of the title card that matches the music (which would have been perfect at the 20-second mark), followed by the good ol' "starring in alphabetical order." And no cool visual effects, either. Truly a let-down. It's basically a rip-off of Apple's Way.

I watched the first episode when it aired and never went back to it. I'm just over this type of show and that it's supposed to be what a "soap" is these days. It's just not the same.

I'm watching the first few episodes, and it's enjoyable. Like KMan said, they're embracing the stiltedness that was just a normal part of the original series while also forming its own tone. The new set of kids are giving me strong, strong, strooooong Degrassi vibes, and I love it. This is low-key what Degrassi: Next Class could have been had it not tried to be sooo many things at once. Okay, the thing about Bayside being a rich kids' school. I don't remember that being a thing in the original series, which is whatever, but I just have to wonder. Between Beverly Hills 90210, this SBTB sequel, and All American - do rich people in California really send their kids to public school? I'm not nitpicking at all, just curious. I loved all of the cute old school things that, for whatever reason, still exist in the rich kids' school in 2020. The handwritten sign-ups for tryouts on the overstuffed bulletin board lol And of course, the class president who gets to execute massive school policy changes like where the bus drops students off. The only thing I want to complain about it is that awful remix of the theme song. Yikes.

Finally, the King's Crossing opening sequence.

A friend watched the whole thing today and loved it, and I think I get Peacock for free bc I'm still a dumbass who pays for cable, so it's going on the list.

It's funny how there were three distinct Peteys, depending on who played him. RSW's typical soap hunk version, DK's nerdy but endearing version, and then, of course, Mitchel David Federan's Petey, who always seemed to have his jazz hands on stand-by. Kennedy's was my favorite. I googled to see what Hunter's portrayer is up to these days, and I actually found some nice pics of he (Daniel Covin) and Eric together, assuming from long after AMC. He has gotten absolutely gorgeous.

Mona __________ Kane's long-lost great-great-nephew!

I wanted AJ/Miranda just because it made so much sense, but AJ coming out and them ending as super tight best friends wouldn't have been hard to buy at all. Would Sam have been in the right generation, SORAS-wise, for him? Not that it would make a huge difference, but I always put him in the Colby/Pete circle. (ETA - I see that y'all have already discussed that in the above posts, which I missed) AMC had so many of those random ass little children at the end. I think a few years ago, I had a pipe dream about Kendall's son with the stupid name growing up, idolizing Maw Erica, and stealing all of MIranda's boyfriends. It's what should have happened with (Mark's son) Josh and Kendall. I might have to watch The Bay. Randy Wayne is #chefskiss I don't know how to quote sht on this board anymore, but... I think Elizabeth Gillies is terrific in Dynasty. ERIC: Oh yeah, and you know she and I dated for two and a half years during the whole run of the show 13. Elizabeth is very talented. She is amazing. The funny part of it is, we were dating forever, and kind of had a bad breakup, and then Sainty, my wife, gets cast in her show Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll, in the pilot to play Liz’s best friend on the series. So, all of the sudden, I’m like, “Wait, wait, wait, out of all the shows, all of the things, this is who you have to get cast as best friends with?” and so they actually became really, really, close friends. So, I’d actually come home from work or filming, and Liz would be on my couch sitting there giggling with Sainty. I’m like, “This is just becoming too much. This is a full-circle moment here. I can’t deal.” (Laughs) Now, you and Elizabeth are broken up at this point? ERIC: Yes. We had been broken up at this point. Sainty and I were actually together. I started dating Sainty in New York and the pilot she was shooting was in New York, and she gets cast as Liz’s best friend, and I was like, “Oh, of course.” ...the fact that Eric told this entire story and Michael was clearly not paying attention is cracking me up so much.

I'm sure some would say it happened before this, but the grand opening of ConFusion was shot in the processed/FilmLook style in the summer of 2006, and the show maintained that hideous "look" until they went to California.

Yes, around about six and a half years. In that time, both Mary Tyler Moore and Georgia Engel passed, and I guess that made many forget that Valerie had been sick, too. I just really hate watching all of the people I grew up loving pass away. I know "better places" and "the nature of the passage of time" and all that, but still. I remember when it was maybe once or twice a year a big classic TV star would pass away.

I couldn't agree with this more. You always just want to believe that they'll beat it, regardless. Valerie Harper's death was similar in that, since she'd made it so far past the initial diagnosis, I was so gutted when she passed away. Jeopardy! is an institution, and Alex is an institution. My very last memory of my grandmother, the one with whom I watched so many hours of soaps, game shows, westerns, and other "old people TV" growing up, was watching the show in the hospital with her, a month into Ken's run. Since then, I've always thought of her when watching. These people and these shows just become so much a part of us.

Ray has crossed my mind a few times in the last months. I hope he's enjoying a well-deserved retirement in good health.

I would never think Julia Barr feels bitter towards AMC or its legacy. She might be disappointed in how things ended (in 2006 and 2013), but she enjoyed 25 years of solid success on the show. I'm sure she would see any reunions/retrospectives as honoring that.

My parents and I enjoyed the daytime Weakest Link back in the day. I wouldn't mind seeing reruns of that pop up on Buzzr. I really am liking the revival, though. Supermarket Sweep. Lol. A hot ass mess.

Stop trying to turn slutty pop songs into heartfelt ballads.