Chris B

Why are they filming before New York when they aren’t as far in terms of aired episodes?! This is so odd! I imagine it’ll be another two months before this reunion airs. I wonder if they’re filming it to wrap things up so they can start filming the next season. I also hate that this likely means another lame ass digital reunion.

Ramona should’ve left Elyse and Leah alone. If this is any indication, they’re gonna tear her ass up at this reunion!😭

The crew wears masks and shields but I’ve seen very little of the women in masks. Also a few restaurant get togethers that they’ve documented. Two of which featured a black woman that people think may be testing to be a housewife. In light of OC going in a cast trip, I wonder if Dallas will still go on one, but just go to Katy’s house in Mexico. Either that or renting a house somewhere state side and taking a private jet. I just assumed they wouldn’t have any trips at all, but if OC is doing it I’m sure others will as well. In other news, Sheree has COVID-19. Lastly, Peacock has announced that their Housewives spin off is called “Housewives Mash Up.” Filming is on hold due to Covid, but it sounds like a Real Housewives All Stars type of show from the name.

@Vizion This is well known in the soap world, they just no longer care. I had mentioned earlier in this thread how a CBS report had leaked when Shemar left showing that the show lost 1-2 million viewers based on his exit. Once they realized that they introduced lots of new black characters and brought back Dru and Lily. Of course when they did this they also gave them story. Things like this Is why I support VR so much and get so frustrated. It’s not just us liking these characters, these characters are HUGELY popular and this audience has been so loyal they deserve better. Mishael Morgan was the first black actress they struck gold with since VR left. The chemistry with Bryton was first class, but they still let her go. That’s insane considering the popularity. I also maintain Loren Lott was on her way to that level of success had they given her a chance. Soaps are dying and they’d rather die than simply give their audience, which is largely black, representation. That is insane.

Which account?

Wrong. When Maria Arena Bell tried to bring her back, they wanted her to stop posting about diversity in order for it to happen. She refused so the return was canceled. She’s never been willing to return without real change.

He looks so much better with the grey. He looks younger too. That bad dye job was a mess.

When she first came on they did attempt that but it was embarrassingly bad. Her outfits were also over the top, but you could tell they were in over their heads. They couldn’t dress that girls figure, couldn’t do her makeup. It was just a damn mess. I liked her better when she returned for Neil’s funeral.

I have enjoyed this season, but the cast needs a touch up for the following season to work. They need to cast a friend of Garcelle and I would dump Erika and Teddi. I would say Kyle, but that’s not gonna happen. I’d finally bring back Camille and keep Sutton. That would be a great cast.

I wish they would just release the doc for streaming since with COVID they can’t do an in person thing. Maybe it’ll be on Peacock. I really wanna see what they came up with.

So no Garcelle or Denise on the after show? Sounds boring and one sided so I'll pass on that.

Wednesday’s episode was fantastic! Who knew this theme would be so good? The Glo by Jabot stuff made me miss this show having a good teen scene. I also liked how Jill, Jack and Phyllis were involved (Katherine too) so it wasn’t just an isolated teen story. This could easily be redone with Charlie, Mattie, Reed and others. I still can’t believe those characters were wasted so much. The highlight for me was the Barber-Winters scenes. The touch of having Mamie around added so much texture to those scenes, as well as the kids. And the adults were actual viable characters not just once a week like they are now.

Kathryn is my favorite type of housewife. A total unknown, a kind person but someone who isn’t afraid to express her opinions. She also had a great husband and just fit. She was gorgeous and felt like money without trying. I hate she didn’t get another year. I have no clue what Erika’s story will be next season when she can’t fake tour or release music.

I’m finally knee deep into the final season. First I’ll say that Ann Marcus is a genius. I still wonder what her original script for Back to the Cul De Sac was like because she had such a strong understanding of these characters. In season 13 the change when she joined was instant. She refocused these characters and started telling stories that respected their history. The show now had the momentum they wanted the first half when it was more plot driven. With season 14 the only thing I didn’t like was Val’s exit. Without Lucy I feel you shouldn’t have considered killing her off. Either have Val leave to go visit Lucy OR bring Lucy back (in Vanessa’s place?) so Gary can have her to help him grieve. Without her the story feels incomplete and Gary is on an island by himself. Beyond that, this season is so tightly paced and the refreshed look is fresh and the show still looks expensive. We know due to budget they were limited with how many episodes each actor got, but you never feel it watching the show. Adding supporting characters like Nick, Mary and Vanessa helps and like any good newbie, they all are there to support the main cast. I also feel that Anne having money and marrying Greg is a great pay off after her years of scheming and ending up on the streets. Her character has shown tremendous growth and this is the type of payoff you deserve when a show ends. Claudia is also more interesting as an assertive businesswoman with a boy toy. Putting her in charge of Sumner Group gave her the agency she needed To truly be interesting. I feel Knots, Falcon Crest and Dynasty all had good final seasons, but Knots was a step above the rest. If money wasn’t a factor it’s obvious this show could’ve continued for YEARS! It’s always nice when a show ends on their own terms and that’s what they did.

New York is full of bizarre decisions. Looking back at season 4, that would be considered a blockbuster season in terms of modern housewives, but we deemed Too dark. Jill and Countess Luann would’ve gotten HUGE raises for the same behavior now. Dorinda has always been very dark and hateful but somehow gets a pass. This is the first season she truly is being taken to task by fans and the other wives.

This was interesting! Luann tried to get Jill for the second half of the season since Tinsley had left. Jill was leaving for the winter so she could only film the Halloween party and Birkshires, but Dorinda put a stop to that! I wonder if Dorinda worried that Jill would end up filming the rest of the season and maybe she felt threatened for her spot next year. It’s a shame it didn’t work out though. It would’ve been nice to see Jill for 2-3 episodes straight.

See, I feel the vast majority of these characters could’ve worked, but they were all underwritten and under-utilized. The fact that Lamon Archey is now a big soap Star from DAYS and couldn’t make it work on Y&R is a failure on the shows part. Same with Keith Hamilton Cobb. If they were truly invested in replacing Malcolm it would’ve worked. Same with the parade of actresses to fill the void of Dru.

I loved Damon! I thought Damon and Phyllis made a very sexy couple.

Dorinda was in her house and Ramona was in the house she rented in Florida so both has the space to produce something better. It seems as if they didn’t have mice which is the issue. I just don’t understand how they allowed such a raggedy product. Like y’all said, youtubers do a better job. Literally all you need is a damn camera and a mic. I remember at one point Samsung did a promo where Watch What Happens Live was filmed with one of their phones. You couldn’t even tell the difference so the phones aren’t the problem, it’s the mics.

I wonder if the others will come off as bad as the NY ones, but they do have an awful production company so this doesn’t totally surprise me. I also agree that Elyse should’ve gotten an Apple. It seems like she’s stepping it up and honestly she’s one of the only things I find interesting about the show. I’m surprised she didn’t make their Mexico trip considering she’s always around.

The classic for Wednesday was fantastic! The 94-96 period is the one I’ve seen the least of so I love a chance to see these episodes, despite Paul and Christine being the most boring part. The actresses playing Luan and Mai were great and especially Mai I think it’s a shame she wasn’t utilized more. From what I know I don’t think she ever got a love interest. Now in addition to wanting Keemo to return, I’d love for him to bring Mai along with him.

Omg Camille destroyed Brandi! Remind me how she wasn’t invited back after carrying last season? Truly baffling.

Potomac has such a beautiful intro and the tag lines are good once again! I’m excited for another good season. They always seem to get better so I’m excited! On the flip side, I’m *still* trying to make Dallas work. I binged 3 episodes of season 3 getting me to episode 8 and this season is zzzzz for me. I’m excited to get to season four in hopes that Kary’s addition brings something fresh because I’m so sick of the current bunch. We’re midway into the season and Kameron is crying about Brandi chasing her with a dildo in season two?! Girl bye! I hope the two newbies are enough to save their 5th season. In other news, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City filmed their cast photo/intro yesterday. There are 5 rumored wives with a sixth who will be a Friend. I hope in the end they go with 6 wives because the Friend is black and it would look good for them to have two non-white housewives in today’s climate. Especially since the early complaints about Salt Lake were that it will likely be all white. Also, the black potential housewife Mary is rumored to be at the center of drama. She’s married to her grandmothers husband who is the Pastor for a mega church.

I wonder if the new timelines are due to the break. Maybe RHOBH will get the same. Also, after hosting Critics Choice Awards, Nene also has a new reality competition show on E! So does Heather Dubrow.

See when it comes to the half hour episodes, instead of going through the trouble of editing them, I’d do a collection on CBS All Access. Now that they’ve seen the success of these episodes AND the demand that they put them on All Access, going forward it would make sense to do that. Honestly, I’m shocked considering they did it for B&B that they don’t at least have a collection of the first 25 episodes.