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Potomac has been done filming for months. Andy tweeted that the episodes he's seen are very good. I think they're just holding it because they don't need it right now. I imagine it'll return with New York towards the end of ATL and BH, probably in April.

Lizzie has said that isn't true. I'll try to find the interview but she said she heavily filmed and was told it wasn't exciting enough and was mostly cut out but she started the season out thinking she'd be full time.

I agree. I feel like she can fill the void they'll need with Heather gone. Someone VERY wealthy with a happy family who is more above the fray. The benefit for her over Heather is that she is more open and natural and not playing for the cameras like Heather was. But with so many dynamic and controversial personalities like Tamra, Vicki and Kelly you need that balance. This is why I also want Lizzie back. We need more balance. I still don't understand getting rid of Lizzie. She has the look and the money and fit in so well. I understand she wasn't the most dramatic, but that's okay. Look at Eileen on Beverly Hills or Cynthia on ATL. They get involved here and there but are mostly normal and mellow. You need balance!

Does anybody know the best place to watch online? I can find the show from 1971 on, but I'm looking to start back up in 1969 when I left off, or 1970 if possible.

Tamara Tattles has more on RHOC: https://tamaratattles.com/2017/01/30/a-tiny-bit-of-real-housewives-of-orange-county-casting-news/ Gretchen, Lizzie and Lydia are all in the running to return, but Lydia is the frontrunner. Kelly is back and they're looking at one of her friends as the new HW. So officially we have: Kelly, Vicki, Shannon, Tamra with one returning housewife (likely Lydia) and one new housewife (friend of Kelly). I'd say that's a good enough reboot. Enough to change the dynamics but still very familiar so we don't have that jarring reboot like New Jersey or New York. Orange County always seems to get the casting right for the most part. They know how to keep things fresh. Whoever casts this show needs to help Jersey and Atlanta out.

Okay I have the RHOC tea, courtesy of RHousewives101 Twitter account which is always very reliable. Returning: Tamra, Vicki, Shannon Offered Friend contracts but declined: Meghan, Heather Still Negotiating: Kelly SURPRISE FORMER HW RETURN: Lydia Now if this all pans out that is very interesting. I loved Lydia during her one season and felt she left way too soon. From what RHousewives101 said she's already signed her contract to return full-time. That could be a good lineup, Tamra, Vicki, Shannon, Kelly and Lydia. I like that we have one housewife returning but she still has a lot of story to tell unlike someone like Gretchen who I'd like to see back, but who would struggle for story.

What about instead of Jeana you cast her daughter Kara? I'm not sure if she still lives in the area, but I do know that she married someone wealthy.

Love or hate her, Bethenny saved New York. She's brought attention and she doesn't shy away from the drama. That was smart. Sheree sucks this year, but her return last year was very well worth it. A proper OC return, which they never do would be helpful. Unlike other series the ladies are actually still friends, so it won't be too jarring. Lizzie should've never been fired so she's the first one I'd bring back. She has wealth, is pretty and has interesting relaitonships with the ladies. Gretchen wouldn't be my first choice, but yall know Lauri and Jeana ain't coming back.

I'm surprised everybody is shocked by Heather's exit. I knew she wasn't coming back since the backlash she got when the season ended. Apparently she was offered a FOH deal like Yolanda and turned it down. I understand why they did that. Remember how they completely slammed her in the season 8 uncensored special? Well they made a point of mentioning how difficult she is with production, which we also saw this season and you never know which Heather you're going to get. Plus they've been stretching this house thing out so long which I feel was a ploy to get her contract renewed. I'm glad she's gone. They needed a new dynamic so you can reset Vicki. With just Tamra, Vicki, Kelly and possibly Shannon that gives you a chance to reset alliances since you'll have at least two-three new wives. To avoid the NYC/NJ curse though I WOULD bring back at least one past housewife. Especially if Shannon doesn't return. Kelly, Vicki, Tamra, Lizzie, Gretchen with one newbie could really work.

I would love a cast of Vicki, Heather, Shannon, Kelly, Tamra, Gretchen and Lizzie. It would be more balanced.

I keep hearing rumors Heather is also out. For sure we know Tamra, Vicky and at TCA Andy said they're negotiating with Kelly so she'll be back. In the end I expect Heather back but not Shannon. I think that gives them a solid group of four and they can add two wives and potentially change up the dynamics again.

I don't think Marlo is pathetic nor do I think she's thirsty for a peach. She comes in and does her work and leaves. She's traveling the world and seems to be doing just fine with whatever small check she gets from the show. So many "Friends" or former housewives make it their life mission to get a full time gig or to be brought back and she's not doing that. The show recognizes her value and keeps bringing her back. I do think if she ever became a housewife she'd make friends within the cast. Kenya has gone from hated or ignored by all to being central and having friendships. It's possible, but Marlo isn't going to be cast so it's a moot point.

Kenya and mostly fine with the girls this year. I don't see her provoking much. With Sheree, her main feud, its playful and they both give as good as they get like Nene and Sheree in the old days. And for the millionth time can people stop saying Kenya provoked Porsha to attack her? If that is the case EVERY housewife on every franchise has been "provoked" into a fight. They all read and talk [!@#$%^&*] and get in each other's faces, etc. Miss me with that BS. If you take it to a petty physical level then you need to accept responsibility for it. Either you bout it and don't feel it's a problem or apologize and move on. The reason everyone is still talking about this is because it repeatedly happens with Porsha and she still hasn't accepted responsibility for ANY of the incidents. Porsha is no victim.

Gamble is defending Melbourne because one of the wives was interviewed trashing Melbourne and saying how Sydney wouldn't be as trashy as their show.

Curtis is a selfish dog. She gave up her dream of adopting because he didn't want a child and she gave up her city living dream because he didn't want that either. Where are his sacrifices? She paying for everything on top of that. She needs to leave his dog ass.

I still say Fuller is out due to CBS having a different creative vision.

Thank you! I started watching whenever Randall Edwards was Delia until the end of the Soapnet airings and have seen very little after that. I've seen stuff here and there prior to that time but not the full thing. I'm definitely going to check it out. Thank you!

Are you watching on YouTube? I wouldn't mind rewatching this series.

Sheree stirring the pot was cute at first, but the girls don't even call her out on it. I feel like everyone views her as a joke so she can't get a rise out of anyone. The feud with Kenya was her attempt and it fell flat. Sheree needs a good direct rival to really pop and I hope she gets one next season. I do enjoy Sheree I just need more realness. This is why I support Kandi through thick and thin. What you see is what you get with her, positive and negative. She shows you her true life. I need a little bit more of that with but Sheree or at least a more believable love interest than Bob.

Oh I know they just used Marlo as an excuse to ease her in, but my point is that she isn't latching onto her. If anything, Marlo helped Sheree, including this season. Sheree had sucked this year. She's only a talk to and her scenes with Bob are coma inducing. We still haven't seen a house, air mattress, tent or apartment. I'm over Sheree. She needs to step it up next season. I don't even find her relationships with the girls interesting this year.

Isn't Marlo the one who reintroduced Sheree last year? People keep saying Marlo is hopping on Sheree, but I could've sworn she brought Sheree to Cynthia's party in the season opener and she also had scenes with Sheree working out on Bravotv.com. And yes there are two trips, camping and Hawaii. Marlo goes on the camping trip with them but I believe Lena is done at this point.

Despite my love for Kenya I am totally Team Marlo and here's why. Phaedra brought her on the show to do her bidding with Nene and although that would've gained Marlo lots of friends and possibly a peach, she gave Marlo a fair shot and was a good friend to her. Their relationship benefitted both of them. Marlo stepped up Nene's fashions and gave her an entertaining side kick while Nene helped build her profile. Nene also wouldn't have had any footage for her wedding spin off if not for Marlo. Nene introduced Marlo to Kenya so naturally they all became friends. It was unfair to assume Marlo should turn on Kenya just because of her petty (and let's be real they were petty) squabbles with her. Once Nene turned on Marlo she continued to be a good friend to Kenya. I believe Marlo when she says Marlo contacted her to setup her birthday and when she saw she could repair her friendship with Nene, Kenya dumped Marlo for the higher profile friend. Marlo explained her case well and Kenya herself said she couldn't defend her actions so she deflected and started to bash Marlo. I think this is all a setup for next season when Nene will likely be back. She needs the money and a high profile gig. They have leverage now and all her whining about not being asked to film this year shows she wants to come back. She'll have to take whatever Bravo offers because they've now proved two years they don't need her for ratings or press. Other than that that I don't have much to say about this episode. With the charity event I think Sheree and Kenya should be ashamed of how little they donated. Personally I would've given 100% of proceeds and doubled it out of pocket. Kenya and Sheree giving less that 600 just looked so cheap. I did enjoy Kenya and Phaedra having a normal relationship. I've always enjoyed them as friends and wish they could maintain that. Kandi also remains MVP for me. I feel she always delivers and is also one of the most real. She's not a true original missing season one but she'll always be the true OC for me. I don't always agree with her but she's vital to this show.

Hillary would've always had a tough go of it, but I do think Russia is very much responsible by her loss and unpopularity. People say she was unlikable, but I think that is mostly the press and done for many reasons but primarily because she's a woman which has always been her biggest hurdle. The very real negative stories that DID leak about Trump I feel would've been enough to bury him had it not been for Wikileaks and that was Russia. Every day the press was reporting on yet another new story from Wikileaks. There is no doubt the email scandal hurt her, but that daily negative campaign from Russia, always perfectly designed to distract from the latest Trump scandal is what I feel gave him the win.

I'm sure some of the Trump report isn't true, but we have to know a good amount of it was. They wouldn't have presented it to Trump and Obama had it not been. I feel like everything with Trump is going to be like an onion and we will continue peeling the layers. We all knew he had ties to Russia, this isn't news. Siding with them over everybody was puzzling to some but it makes sense considering. I'm sure this won't end well for him we just need to wait for them to finish unraveling and verifying this story. Many have compared Trump to The Manchurian Candidate, but this is truly a storyline lifted out of 24! By that I mean that it's so outlandish it can't be true, but everytime we think that Trump surprises us.

It kills me that we're halfway in and still haven't seen where Sheree lives. We know she has a housewarming that is worse than Kenya's later this season, but she STILL isn't living in that house. She's back, but she's really spread thin for story. They're going to have to work on her if she remains next season. She needs a REAL love interest and story of her own. She is such a talk to and doesn't have interesting relationships with anybody. The Kenya stuff started good but fizzled out because Kenya has her own stuff going on.