1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

I’m on an island alone of having no problem with Joss or Eden 😂. Tbf I missed probably all of the problematic years you guys all hate her for. She’s always just been perfect mini LW Carly to me. The exact daughter I feel LW’s Carly would have.

I also really enjoy RP as Cassius now that he doesn’t have to keep up the Nathan mask with everyone.

I don't think Eden is a bad actress in the general sense and I actually feel for her after the loss of her mother so young. I just don't find her leading lady material. She's not very charismatic, has little chemistry with her leading men, has had story after story that have failed and is pushed like she is the next LW's Carly. Unfortunately she lacks LW's more engaging screen presence and star power.

The writing hasn't worked for her, nor does it play to Eden's stronger suits. There also is a lot of fan resentment

on my part because every time Joss screws up she's still painted in the right. Sort of similar to Brook Lynn's writing.

24 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think Eden is a bad actress in the general sense and I actually feel for her after the loss of her mother so young. I just don't find her leading lady material. She's not very charismatic, has little chemistry with her leading men, has had story after story that have failed and is pushed like she is the next LW's Carly. Unfortunately she lacks LW's more engaging screen presence and star power.

The writing hasn't worked for her, nor does it play to Eden's stronger suits. There also is a lot of fan resentment

on my part because every time Joss screws up she's still painted in the right. Sort of similar to Brook Lynn's writing.

In a so-called perfect world, I could see Frank and his team taking up @Vee on his suggestion to turn Eden's Joss into a modern-day Carole Lombard: the screwball heiress who just needs William Powell to come along and toss her spoiled behind in the shower with all her clothes still on. Maybe Eden doesn't have the late Lombard's knack for physical comedy, but it couldn't be any worse than watching her play "Josslyn Jacks in 'Live and Let Blonde'."

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30 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think Eden is a bad actress in the general sense and I actually feel for her after the loss of her mother so young. I just don't find her leading lady material. She's not very charismatic, has little chemistry with her leading men, has had story after story that have failed and is pushed like she is the next LW's Carly. Unfortunately she lacks LW's more engaging screen presence and star power.

The writing hasn't worked for her, nor does it play to Eden's stronger suits. There also is a lot of fan resentment

on my part because every time Joss screws up she's still painted in the right. Sort of similar to Brook Lynn's writing.

Yeah I think this is where different strokes for different folks comes in. I literally have zero issue with Eden as Joss 😂

Yeah, the fan resentment for Joss as heroine and squeeze into every story even if she does not fit is very and truly real.

That said...since Joss did start off as trouble, I could see Eden playing Joss as a bad girl if allowed. I did like the rivalry energy she had with Lexi's Kristina for example. The catfights that could have been.

11 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Yeah I think this is where different strokes for different folks comes in. I literally have zero issue with Eden as Joss 😂

Well, I do like Sonny, so what do I know? 😂

5 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Yeah, the fan resentment for Joss as heroine and squeeze into every story even if she does not fit is very and truly real.

That said...since Joss did start off as trouble, I could see Eden playing Joss as a bad girl if allowed. I did like the rivalry energy she had with Lexi's Kristina for example. The catfights that could have been.

I think Eden could play a bad girl, socialite, even a slightly ditzy character with some humor. The romantic heroine and leader of the young adult scene doesn't work for her. BB as Emma is a much better fit for that since we all know Trina will never be allowed to.

18 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think Eden could play a bad girl, socialite, even a slightly ditzy character with some humor. The romantic heroine and leader of the young adult scene doesn't work for her. BB as Emma is a much better fit for that since we all know Trina will never be allowed to.

Yeah at this point, I can definitely see her playing all of those as well...and I do feel it would play to Eden's strength as an actress.

In terms of her place/position on the canvas, yeah such a miscast. BB's Emma totally should be and could do (heroine...just look at her as current tether for the Anna story while still being romanced...and leader of the YA scene...well everyone pops up together more when she's around than Joss herself) both easily. And just with what little she and Gio are given, she has proven that. No question.

Sad, but true. re: Trina.

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

Well, I do like Sonny, so what do I know? 😂

I think Eden could play a bad girl, socialite, even a slightly ditzy character with some humor. The romantic heroine and leader of the young adult scene doesn't work for her. BB as Emma is a much better fit for that since we all know Trina will never be allowed to.

You liking Sonny is why I’m fine with liking Joss 😂😂😂

6 hours ago, Khan said:

In a so-called perfect world, I could see Frank and his team taking up @Vee on his suggestion to turn Eden's Joss into a modern-day Carole Lombard: the screwball heiress who just needs William Powell to come along and toss her spoiled behind in the shower with all her clothes still on.

To be clear I'd turn Joss into a scheming comic heiress down the road, but only after the character had a substantial break lol. I would probably recast. But I might also give Eden a chance to play it if it was a question of running out her contract, because I think she might do well with it.

On 5/13/2026 at 9:37 PM, ranger1rg said:

Can someone tell me why I'm so attracted to Ethan?

On 5/13/2026 at 9:37 PM, ranger1rg said:

Can someone tell me why I'm so attracted to Ethan?

I’ve always thought he was attractive, especially after he cut his hair and lost the man bun.

On 5/14/2026 at 8:52 AM, jasonminer1974 said:

What are folks thinking about Ethan and Kristina?

I loved Ethina back in the day and I really wish Lexi was still playing Kristina, but I’ll still take them with Kate’s version. I think there is really good story potential with them getting married so Ethan can look better to the judge in the event of a custody battle. I don’t see Brook Lynn giving up Phoebe without a fight.

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Yeah, I never cared for Ethan (who should have been Robert's son) until he dished the man bun (ironically now I like such things lol).

As for Nathan Dean...he was okay. But I liked him as Jackson on THE ORIGINALS though I started that show Season 3 with none of that characters' backstory. And I really liked his interpretation of Max Evans on the ROSWELL reboot. He was attractive enough so I definitely started to find him that way...not that the policeman pants he often wore hurt. But when he took on another persona in the last season as Mr. Jones...there was this strong sexy swagger that I NEVER saw from Nathan even as Ethan that made me think all kinds of...uh...impure thoughts.

My way of saying...I hope that some of that swagger energy pops up on screen here. I will fall out and probably bite a nail.

As for Eden and a scheming comic heiress...all of this talk just makes me think of Linsey Godfrey's character on B&B who was like watching paint dry as the young heroine. Her character got thrown over a balcony and once she woke up in the hospital, she started to be just that...a scheming comic heiress. Who also like to call characters by the wrong name @carolineg And it did wonders for Linsey Godfrey's acting as well as her character. I wouldn't mind seeing Eden do it because I feel she would eat it up. Not unlike Kate Mac enjoying Willow (and it shows) now that Willow is crazy as a hatter and scheming.