ALL: Couple vs SUPER Couple?

[Maxim]

My perception is this - if the couple is fundamental to the show (their relationship dominates storyline after storyline)... AND you really can't imagine the other person without that other one... even in some occasions after the passing of half of the couple... that to me is super-couple. 

Edited January 14 by Maxim

[janea4old]

I assume this was a typo and you couldn't edit since Errol removed the ability to edit a post after it has been up for one hour.
Assume you meant Spencer/Trina.

Edited January 14 by janea4old

[titan1978]

Yes I did mean Trina/Spencer!

[janea4old]

I agree with you that Trina/Spencer followed the supercouple formula and that racism and FV scheduling caused interference.

[Contessa Donatella]

Yes, I also agree that Spencer/Trina had so many of the trappings of supercoupledom. And, they are the only contemporary couple to consider in supercouple terms.

Adding to racism & taping pace & scheduling, I felt the show revealed a very unfortunate kind of valuing Spencer over Trina which I found to be appalling & not sure if it came out of misogyny or was just part of the racism.

[Contessa Donatella]

Thanks! I well remember that it was Pat Falken Smith who married them & only after Bill Bell was gone to Y&R.

[Paul Raven]

I still take that as meaning that at that point he didn't want Doug and Julie to marry, as there were still viable obstacles that could be put into place.

If Doug and Julie were never to marry, would that mean they would continue to marry other people?

Bill Bell knew that viewers wouldn't stand for that. So 5/10 years down the line they would still be apart?

And it is Bob Anderson, not Bill.

Edited January 14 by Paul Raven

[Contessa Donatella]

Here's the second one.

Russell, M. (1995). Days of Our Lives: A Complete History of the Long-Running Soap Opera. McFarland and Company, Publishers, Ltd. ISBN 0-7864-0112-5

"Viewers clamored for Doug and Julie's wedding. Head writer Bill Bell resisted, "I continue to be unalterably opposed to any marriage between Doug and Julie. All too soon the proverbial honeymoon would be over, inevitably the spark diminished, the love songs a little less exciting ... It's still my conviction that the most effective love scenes are those in which love is so inherent that in seeing it, feeling it, we don't need to say it."

You & I apparently have very different meanings for the word 'never'. And, yes, you're right, it is Bob not Bill. Thanks for that.

Edited January 14 by Contessa Donatella
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[Maxim]

And he is so right in a way. A lot of these couples hit a dead end after getting married and then the all so predictable problems on the road for divorce start.  And I don't think there is a lot of room for speculation about the meaning of what he said. He said it quite clearly and definitively. As he usually does. He is opposed to ANY marriage between these two characters. 

[Paul Raven]

Well I'll guess I'll have to accept that Doug and Julie would never marry which would make them the only couple that never got together at some point.

Would love to see how Bill was going to keep them apart for the next 10 years or so.

Yet he married off Chris/Snapper, Brad/Leslie, Victor/Nikki and many more.

Guess Doug and Julie were in a class of their own.

[Contessa Donatella]

Yes, there can be no doubt. And, I get it that on soaps there's no such thing as a happy couple, not for long, anyway. Soaps are about busting couples up, not putting them together. Just look at today's GH. They've blown up almost every couple that exists.

[Maxim]

And thank YOU for taking out of your time in getting these two quotes for us. And citing where they're from.  

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[Contessa Donatella]

You're very welcome. And, I mean, Paul asked.

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Totally subjective reactions to the DIGEST "50 Greatest Couples"

GH Spencer & Trina 50 

DAYS Roman & Marlena 44 Too Low

AMC Bianca & Maggie BAM the only same sex couple 40 

DAYS Lucas & Sami 39 

Santa Barbara Cruz & Eden 36 Too Low

Santa Barbara Mason & Julia 23 

AW Mac & Rachel 35  but more couples should have been included

DAYS Justin & Adrienne 33 

OLTL Bo & Nora 31 

GH Lucky & Liz 29 I like this one because of the picture.

GH Alan & Monica 26 

ATWT Jack & Carly 24 

AMC Greg & Jenny 22 But they killed Jenny!

DAYS Doug & Julie 19 They should be Top 10!

GH Sonny & Carly 18 meh IDK Not a CarSon fan

GH Robert & Holly 17 They look amazing!

DAYS Patch & Kayla 16 

GH Stone & Robin 15 Should be higher

AMC Tad & Dixie 13 

DAYS John & Marlena 12 Also belong in Top 10

ATWT Holden & Lily 11 

B&B Ridge & Brooke 8 Okay

AMC Jesse & Angie 7 

GL Josh & Reva 6 Okay

GH Sonny & Brenda 4 

DAYS Bo & Hope 3 

Y&R Victor & Nikki 2 Okay

And, of course, you know who is left

GH Luke & Laura 1 All I can think to say is it was predictable.

Thank you for indulging me. Sorry it's so long.

 

Edited January 15 by Contessa Donatella
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[Wendy]

Yes! For the relatively short time the pairing was on GH, the "good" writers did write Robin/Patrick in the vein of the old supercouples, and even in that brief time, they had a lot of obstacles - internal and external - thrown their way. Honestly (and I know I may be biased as a fan of the couple), I think Robin/Patrick were the last to be written by that formula.

Not to say there aren't popular couples (although I find most of the current crop boring), but the writing is missing that "big" quality.

Although - even if I'm not a fan - I know many love Liz/Jason and/or Liz/Ric, too. So, perhaps an element of subjective feelings plays a role, too, even if just a little. As an example, I loved original Zander/Emily (Amber Tamblyn) back in the day, but even I don't think they'd be classified as a supercouple. (And considering how the show s-h-i-t on them for Nik/Emily once Emily was recast, neither did the show itself, apparently.)

Conversely, I was/am also a big fan of Mason/Julia from Santa Barbara and think they do qualify with everything they had to endure. Cliff/Nina, my first 'ship at 8-years-old (ha!) from AMC...well, I think they came just before the "supercouple" trend, but they may qualify, too...

Edited January 15 by Wendy