GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread

[John]

AS & JS went to the brass and they agreed so everyone involved seems ok with this change so I dont see AS losing her job over it and if Disney tried she could probably successfully sue based on religion

[Vee]

That doesn't mean it's good for the show or the characters.

Criticizing this show online doesn't mean we're going to get it cancelled. Suggesting actors be let go is fair game. They're not our friends.

[DRW50]

I do wonder even if they made changes with Brooklyn, would it make a big difference? They recast Kristina with a popular actress who seems willing to take risks and the story was a huge failure and she seems hated by a lot of viewers through no real fault of her own. The other women in her age range like Sasha and Willow have more active sex lives but those also aren't presented with passion. 

Gio being Dante's son seems like it could be overshadowed now unless the writing is much more layered than one would think - if Rocco feels insecure and draws closer to Lulu (or Cody), if Danny lashes out over Dante spending more time with a total stranger than him, etc. 

As Chase is at least pretty and willing to take off his shirt I would say they could pair him back up with Willow or Sasha (or was he never with her) or even Maxie, but who knows.

[John]

So because we do not see them simulate sex with side nudity its bad for the show and the characters? 

[Vee]

A huge part is they seemed to simply saddle Kate Mansi with a prewritten, timewaster story like the surrogacy which isn't any good for anyone. For a number of months IIRC she did very little, which led people to question why she was even hired. I think she is talented and has done good work in the role in the spring and early summer before things went really south, but she's being sabotaged by the worst kind of material. If they're not trying to assassinate the character then they desperately need to retool. Frank of course hates to do that.

I like Gio as I've said before, but I see no reason for him to be a Bensonhurst love child who will only unnecessarily age Dante and BLQ further. The (relatively) 'younger' and actual young adult characters on this show are staid and desexualized enough as is. He could be anyone's kid down the line if he really has to somebody important's, but I'd sooner they just keep playing him as the happy wanderer/stud with Trina, etc. If they ever let him take his shirt off. Anyway, it's just another unnecessary blood connection to me right now.

Willow, Sasha and Chase are all tiresome nobodies to me. I'd write them all out in various ways and probably kill Chase to send BLQ spiraling (and likely recast). Though I'd have Willow kill Drew and frame Nina, as I've said before.

Nobody is asking for Amanda Setton to do 'side nudity.' But she is playing a younger woman on a soap opera in a genre driven by intimacy and passion. She conveys none onscreen.

Whether some of us spend a lot of time on social media or not, we don't know these people personally. They are not our friends. People are allowed to criticize the show, the actors, the stories and it doesn't mean that not blindly agreeing with anything it does will get the show cancelled, or that to be nice you have to want to make sure everyone stays employed.

[Taoboi]

I can understand that.

Oh, they did? I did not know that. 

[carolineg]

Lol!  No one is asking Amanda Setton to perform nude.  Just basically do what every actor on soaps does and act out some romantic and sexy times?  There have been several women on soaps decades older than AS that played romance believably and they weren't showing anything 'sexy'.  They were just acting like they enjoyed sex.  Setton doesn't look comfortable with the idea.  

This isn't about her beliefs.  This is a business and a televised show.  She really doesn't get to decide how she's portrayed especially if it's a detriment to the actual character.

[Taoboi]

^THIS.

[BetterForgotten]

If they can’t commit to love and intimacy scenes the same as any other character on the show, then these types of scenes should not be written. This is not real life, and no actor gets to dictate how much effort they pour into certain scenes vs. others.

i’d gladly write Brook Lynn and Chase out, and have Brook Lynn return solo with an actress that can commit to all aspects of the character regardless of her personal religious beliefs. 

Edited November 28, 2024 by BetterForgotten

[John]

[BetterForgotten]

Beyond the whole Laura absence, it’s going to drive me crazy if Lulu is at the Quartermaine mansion and doesn’t get to interact with Tracy, who loves her and thinks of her as her daughter as well. 

[Vee]

I'm sure she will. At least Genie is clearly on next week.

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Edited November 28, 2024 by Taoboi

[John]

You have tea to spill? lol

[NiqueAlexis2020]

I honestly asked the same question when I found out he was leaving and when he died instead of Maxie being a pregnant widow at 29. I believe RP didn't tell them until Nov after the story was already written. Plus someone had to be sacrificed on the alter of Bootleg Juiliard so he can be "relevant" have a relationship and Maxie & Naxie were the sacrifical land for FV pet. His girlfriend wanted him to be on the show and have a job so much she should have took him and be paired with him. She could have carried him for 4 years and bonus no Paxie or Carson win win.

I'm glad my Naxie got a baby it's the only one of her kids that isn't a plot point baby, a means to prop someone and their shitty relationship, or done to push 2 people who couldn't get back together on their own merits so the cliche offensive 1950s thinking of a woman has a kid with man they must be together [!@#$%^&*]. James is every bit Maxie with his daddy's heart and softness. I'm glad for now they remember that is Maxie baby instead of being a prop for Cody who shouldn't exist. He's my girl karma for her hell raising rebellious mouthy teenage early 20s giving Mac gray hair years. I thought it would be Georgie since both her mamma & namesake were wild as hell in their teenage years but unfortunately not she is a glorified extra. Now Bailey shouldn't exist especially cause her only purpose was to tie Bootleg to a legacy. They don't even show her they recasted her for 1 day for JJY/Mac return and promptly went back to acting like she doesn't exist. Wtf is the point this is one of the things that I hate about FV. He created something no one asked for. They should have just gave her to Brooklyn and Chase or in the process of kidnapping her PLP gets in a accident and she dies. Maxie goes scorched earth and kills Bootleg. 2 stones with one bird and gives wise to dark Maxie which is better than anything she is doing now. 

 

I don't know why they didn't cast JS as Nathan instead of shitting on my girls best relationship and best chemistry so someone's hugely loathe abomination of boy toy who can't act their way out of a paper bag could have a story at the very expense of her and Anna.