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The best part was towards the end with the original Matlock theme song being played and the Murder She Wrote/Angela Lansbury references and the ending. Didn't expect that ending.

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17 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

The best part was towards the end with the original Matlock theme song being played and the Murder She Wrote/Angela Lansbury references and the ending. Didn't expect that ending.

I was super annoyed that CBS had cancelled So Help Me Todd and was replacing it with Matlock as Todd was like the only show outside of the soaps I even watched on the traditional broadcast networks.

I gave this a shot just to see Kathy Bates,  thought it was middle of the road some some very amusing moments. But then the twist ending occurred and totally unexpected. Whoa. Well done!

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I’m actually interested to see how this revenge angle plays out. 

 

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5 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I was super annoyed that CBS had cancelled So Help Me Todd and was replacing it with Matlock as Todd was like the only show outside of the soaps I even watched on the traditional broadcast networks.

I gave this a shot just to see Kathy Bates,  thought it was middle of the road some some very amusing moments. But then the twist ending occurred and totally unexpected. Whoa. Well done!

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I’m actually interested to see how this revenge angle plays out. 

 

I'm assuming it will play out the entire season? 

I was expecting murder cases like the original but now I understand why the first case was so flimsy.

It moves to Thursday's. I thought it would've been great had it stayed in the old MSW timeslot right before Trackers. They compliment each other.

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1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

I'm assuming it will play out the entire season? 

I was expecting murder cases like the original but now I understand why the first case was so flimsy.

It moves to Thursday's. I thought it would've been great had it stayed in the old MSW timeslot right before Trackers. They compliment each other.

My guess it’s move to Thursdays is to pair it with Elsbeth to create a block of two similarly natured shows. 

Yeah the case featured felt like this show was going to be about her doing feel good civil litigation cases and what not but the ending blew that out of the water.

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34 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I was super annoyed that CBS had cancelled So Help Me Todd

Which is how I felt about EAST NEW YORK being cancelled for TODD. 😜 But I'm sorry to hear that. :) 

 

I think I might sit down some time this week (or tonight) and watch this. You guys comments' and my favorite tv friend/coworker's buzz over this (and my love of Kathy Bates) is contagious. 

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4 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

 

 

I think I might sit down some time this week (or tonight) and watch this. You guys comments' and my favorite tv friend/coworker's buzz over this (and my love of Kathy Bates) is contagious. 

Be patient with the episode. Even though the scenes at first are the introduction followed by the case ....it does run slow in interest. It picks up towards the end and the actual ending.

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4 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Be patient with the episode. Even though the scenes at first are the introduction followed by the case ....it does run slow in interest. It picks up towards the end and the actual ending.

I don't mind slow burns. Especially if it's leading somewhere. 

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8 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Which is how I felt about EAST NEW YORK being cancelled for TODD. 😜 But I'm sorry to hear that. :) 

 

I think I might sit down some time this week (or tonight) and watch this. You guys comments' and my favorite tv friend/coworker's buzz over this (and my love of Kathy Bates) is contagious. 

I loved East New York!!! But I think  East New York was canned in favor reversing the decision to cance SWAT, while Todd actually had the same thing occur when CBS unexpectedly renewed SWAT for another season and killed Todd to make room for Matlock on the schedule. 
 

I get the Shemar love but SWAT is just not my cup of tea. 
 

But yes I definitely recommend you check it out as well, and like Soapsuds said be patient with it it’s well worth it.

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3 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I loved East New York!!! But I think  East New York was canned in favor reversing the decision to cance SWAT, while Todd actually had the same thing occur when CBS unexpectedly renewed SWAT for another season and killed Todd to make room for Matlock on the schedule. 
 

I get the Shemar love but SWAT is just not my cup of tea. 
 

But yes I definitely recommend you check it out as well, and like Soapsuds said be patient with it it’s well worth it.

I was picking. lol. I just remember the renewals being down to those twos but you are right about SWAT. And I was pissed that CBS took it off my server before I could finish the back half of Season 1. Setting up the mystery of her father only for me to not know what happened. 

 

I am sure it will be on in a few more hours here. But doing writing stuff (while catching up on GH) so we will see. 

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8 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I was picking. lol. I just remember the renewals being down to those twos but you are right about SWAT. And I was pissed that CBS took it off my server before I could finish the back half of Season 1. Setting up the mystery of her father only for me to not know what happened. 

 

I am sure it will be on in a few more hours here. But doing writing stuff (while catching up on GH) so we will see. 

What happened to East NY was unfortunate. A top 20 show axed because of licensing fees to Warner Bros so it was cheaper for CBS to uncancel a show because it was cheaper too.

Show cancellations these days can be so frustrating because it’s no longer solely about ratings and demos but also show costs, budgets, licensing fees etc. plus the streaming aspect of it and then CBS these days have a pipeline to the point they’re already ordering new pilots and making guarantees for the 2025-26 tv season. 

I’m also wondering how many episodes are in this season. I’m guessing maybe 10-13? I know Kathy recently interviewed and said she may retire after this gig so I can’t see it lasting the whopping 24-25 episodes CBS was ordering for its procedurals prior to the writers strike.

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Usually the first seasons  are a small amount of episodes. I can see 13 episodes this season. Tracker only had 13 episodes last season which was its first season.

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