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ALL: Proposed Soaps Over The Years

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8 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Aaron Spelling tried to remake Hotel in 2003…? I had no idea.

Neither did I.

I have vague memories of remakes of The Love Boat and Fantasy Island in the late 1990s.

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On 2/12/2026 at 2:12 PM, DRW50 said:

@soapfan770 Neither did I. Thanks. This must have been near the end for him. I guess they were thinking of the Love Boat remake on UPN, although that only ran for a year or two.

On 2/12/2026 at 3:17 PM, Chris B said:

@soapfan770 Hmmm...I hadn't heard of the Hotel remake either! Not sure that show needed to be remade. I'm surprised he didn't try to remake Dynasty while he was alive.

22 hours ago, Khan said:

"Hotel" is a show that's always easy to reboot - simple premise, episodes you could produce on the cheap, no iconic stars from the original series to cast long and inescapable shadows on the new show - so I'm not surprised UPN tried in '03.

No problem!! I only discovered when I was looking through a list of failed Aaron Spelling shows and pilots (it’s a lengthy list too).

Of course UPN had tried out Love Boat: The Next Wave a few before with Robert Urich and Phil Morris…I can neither confirm or deny I watched an episode (or two) though….

Looking at the cast on IMDB the only names I recognized listed were Michael Jai White, Martha Smith (the Scarecrow and Mrs. King fan in me lol but yeah she would’ve been a D-list star) and Jay Kenneth Johnson, who would have obviously been fresh off his first Days stint at the time. I do remember he went on to star in the ill fated North Shore a year later.

@Khan That may be true but of course with the show being on UPN obviously celebrity guest stars has this come to fruition in 2003 probably would’ve come the way of Richard Grieco, Kirk and/or Candace Cameron, Kelly Rutherford, Nancy and/or Phillip McKeon, Antonio Sabato Jr., Tracy Middendorf etc 🤣

21 hours ago, kalbir said:

Neither did I.

I have vague memories of remakes of The Love Boat and Fantasy Island in the late 1990s.

Memory unlocked for the 1998 version of Fantasy Island. Only episode I remember watching was where Olivia D’Abo was some cheating housewife who fantasized about having her own Jenny Jones meets Jerry Springer type talk show while Malcolm McDowell also looked 200 years old lol.

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Nov 82

Jorn Winther named exec producer for proposed NBC soap Always Is Not Forever.

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6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Nov 82

Jorn Winther named exec producer for proposed NBC soap Always Is Not Forever.

That is one clunky title! Also, a bit Bond moviesque.

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10 minutes ago, Franko said:

That is one clunky title! Also, a bit Bond moviesque.

I believe it was based on a novel of the same title.

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1 minute ago, Paul Raven said:

I believe it was based on a novel of the same title.

A-ha. Looking up the book now, which definitely has soapy possibilities.

Lovely young Susan Langdon thought she knew what she was doing when she married world-famous concert pianist Richard Antonini. She knew about the many women whom this handsome, incredibly gifted musical genius numbered among his conquests. She knew about his celebrated close-knit family…his ravenously possessive mother…his jet-paced world of dazzling glamor and glittering sophistication…his passionate dedication to his career. But she also knew—or thought she knew—Richard, her Richard, the Richard she adored and gave up her career for. Here is an unforgettably moving novel of a woman who took on more than she ever counted on when she surrendered to love—and who fought against every heart-tearing odd as she found out what marriage really meant.

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Rita Lakin wrote a proposal for 'Diary of A Mad Housewife' based on the 1970 movie. It's story of a put open, frustrated woman so I imagine Lakin would have softened that angle (and maybe consider a change of title) if it was going to sell as a daytime soap.

She was also the writer on 3 other proposed primetime soaps based on movies-Written on the Wind 1965 and An Affair to Remember 1975 and Diamond Head based on a movie 1972

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A soap based on "Written on the Wind" would've been amazing, lol.

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On 4/20/2026 at 4:25 PM, Paul Raven said:

Nov 82

Jorn Winther named exec producer for proposed NBC soap Always Is Not Forever.

Once Brian Frons in 83 arrived at NBC this, along with Scruples and some others were dropped. Santa Barbara got the go ahead instead.

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When WGPR now WWJ-TV Detroit started up as the first Black-owned television station there were plans for a Black soap opera called "A Time To Live". This was in an old Department of Education report.

Perhaps, the most ambitious project was "A Time to Live," a soap opera written by two black woman reporters for the Detroit Free Press. There were plans to syndicate this programming to television stations in other markets with large black populations (Black TV). According the George White, vice president for programming, "the program schedule will provide in-depth penetration in the problems, goals, aspirations and achievements of blacks and related ethnic groups." The problem was that such programming did not exist and creating it would cost money and there were really no syndication possibilities at the time.

WWJ-TV struggled to keep even news on the air during it's time so this idea was too ambitious to get off the ground. The only soap it ever aired was "Santa Barbara" amongst an assorted lineup of network shows. Ironically it is now a CBS affiliate.

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Desert Sun, Number 194, 17 March 1984

Koch plans horse series in Kentucky

By DAVID McCORMICK Associated Press Writer

HENDERSON, Ky. (AP) Kentucky millionaire horse breeder and plantation owner Wilson Calhoun so far is just a character in the mind of Hollywood producer Howard W. Koch. But if Koch is successful, Calhoun will be the hero of an ABC television series called “Kentucky” which he describes as a cross between CBS’ steamy soap, “Dallas,” and NBC’s frontier saga, “Centennial.” The producer for Paramount studios has received the go-ahead from ABC to draft a script for a two-hour pilot show that could air this fall. Filming would begin this summer if the script is approved. And, depending on the audience response, a regular series could be on the air by next January.

“What it basically is is a modern story with flashbacks,” Koch said in a telephone interview from his Hollywood office. “It’s the saga of the Calhoun family from the time of Daniel Boone right up to the present,” Calhoun, Koch said, is a 60-year-old, twicewidowed, fifth-generation native of the Bluegrass State. He manages his 3,000-acre estate near Lexington between big financial dealings that take him to New York, Chicago and occasionally to an exotic foreign country. He has two sons and a daughter and the plot will get rather tangled, Koch said. “It’s a high-rolling set. It’s about power and how power works and how power corrupts. “He faces a world of trials and tribulation just like everybody else, but in Kentucky, which is different from everyplace else.”

The idea is just fine with Lynda Jalbert, director of the Kentucky Film Office. “What it will do for tourism is just really a coup for Kentucky, kind of like what ‘Dallas’ has done for Dallas and South Fork,” she said. “They have hundreds of people daily to visit South Fork,” the Texas ranch where the television series’ Ewing family is shown heading its international oil empire. The film office was created in 1976 to attract movie and television producers to Kentucky. Since then, major pictures filmed in the state include “Coal Miner’s Daughter" and “Stripes.” “We just finished shooting another one with the working title of “River Rats,’” Ms. Jalbert said. “It should be out before very long.” Kentucky’s varied geography makes it a fine film location, she said. “The only things we don’t have are deserts or beaches Otherwise, we have everything in the way of locations I think any producer could possibly want.”

The pilot is being written by the husband-wife team of Stephen and Elinor Karpf, who wrote the movie "Love Story” and the script for the daytime TV soap opera “Capital.” Koch said the publishing firm of Simon and Schuster has agreed in principle to publish a novel this summer also with the working title “Kentucky” based on the pilot script Asked to assess the chances his idea has for becoming a TV series, Koch said “It’s a crap game. I’d say right now it’s about 50-50.” Certainly, the networks are interested in the bigfamily sagas, with their feuds and double-dealing. Among this season’s most popular programs are “Dallas,” “Dynasty,” about the oil-rich Carrington family in Denver and “Falcon Crest,” set in the lush northern California wine valleys. If producers could squeeze intrigue out of the wine industry, they certainly can make hay with the horse-breeding business

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