^^^^I agree BadZoe, the Bell soaps don't believe in Female friendships. They believe in women fighting with each other for the attention of men, it's starting to become old IMO, especially on B&B.

Bell soaps don't believe in Female friendships.

They did before Jack Smith.

Edited March 15, 200817 yr by DeeeDee

^^^^Somewhat with Nina and Cricket, but even then the women were still always fighting over men. But I can't remember any women being friends during Jack Smith's era. Maybe Diane and Isabella, but I can't remember anyone else.

^^^^Somewhat with Nina and Cricket, but even then the women were still always fighting over men.

Eh. There were PLENTY of female friendships prior to Jack Smith.

The Bell family does not believe that women can be friends because they all have to be in competition for the love and attention of a man. That is one area where the ABC soaps have always been above the Bell soaps.

I agree. While there were some decent friendships throughout the years, most of these women were always competing for the affection of another man.

Ahh, I know who Logan is now. Duh.

If Sabrina has a secret in her past, I think she'd work out. But if Sabrina's crafted well enough, she could stay as long as Adam can.

Also, I hope she's a real bitch. Maybe she'll bring the worst out of Victoria and return that character to form. Latham definitely made all the women on this show wusses. Even Gloria and Amber. They're always afraid of someone catching them so they devise plans to get them out of the jam. It's degrading. And sure, Nikki gained some power since getting out from under Victor's wing but she seemed whiny the entire way.

With all these powerful women, it's a shame they can't be depicted as such. They merely come off as whiny, sneaky girls. Let's hope the new writers stop reinterpreting these characters.

Edited March 19, 200817 yr by rhythmchyc

While there were some decent friendships throughout the years, most of these women were always competing for the affection of another man.

How is that different from any other soap?

Edited March 18, 200817 yr by DeeeDee

Chillax. I know the other soaps do it, but the Bell soaps did have a tendency to do it more.

Chillax.

You "chillax".

but the Bell soaps did have a tendency to do it more.

No. They don't.

You "chillax".

No. They don't.

ATWT has probably the bitchiest character, Carly, have gfs throughout most of her time on the show. And, in terms of scheming, she surpasses Amber and Gloria combined, IMO.

There was the terrific Rose/Emily/Carly thing going on for a while. But then she became close to Roseanna, then to Gwen, and (somewhat) Lily. The older characters had close relationships, too. Kim with Barbara and Margo. And Margo and Jessica were friends too.

On OLTL, there's Lindsay/Dorian. There's Blaire/Dorian. There's Starr/Langston. There's Adriana/Layla. There's Layla/Sarah. There's Natalie/Jessica. There's Vicki/daughters. There's (somewhat) Nora/Vicki.

On AMC, there's SUPER Kendall/Greenlee. There's also Babe/Krystal, who seem more like mother and daughter than Victoria and Nikki. And AMC's writing is horrendous. (No offense to the fans LOL)

Y&R's hatin' on the women friendships, hard!

Y&R's hatin' on the women friendships, hard!

...Under LML & Jack Smith, yes.

I personally don't think they will ever truly have female and I do mean strong female friendships formed on Y&R...

The only time you truly do see a female/female friendship is if two women get together to talk about how one particular woman they hate is muffing up their lives (Dru and Sharon had that common bond because of their hate for Phyllis, because they could relate)....

Nikki and Katherine have a friendship, but the only time you truly see it is when Nikki's in a crisis or vice versa....

Do they even truly show a genuine female friendship where they just sit together and talk? Or did it die when Nina and Cricket ceased?

...Under LML & Jack Smith, yes.

@ Sweet_VeeVee24 Yeah, Colleen and Lily!!

I just hope that the Colleen/Lily friendship is strengthened again. I mean, a boyfriend telling you you're not fat etc. etc. is nice and all but a girl needs her pal to gang up against royal bitches like Chloe. Their friendship would at least mean a bond between women for a few decades into the future.

I don't get it, still, this total offense to women friendships when the demographic is majority women!

The writers must be doing this on purpose because it's way too common.

Edited March 19, 200817 yr by rhythmchyc

And even though Sharon and Dru only came together because of their hatred for Phyllis,

They became friends WAY before that.

I personally don't think they will ever truly have female and I do mean strong female friendships formed on Y&R...

The only time you truly do see a female/female friendship is if two women get together to talk about how one particular woman they hate is muffing up their lives (Dru and Sharon had that common bond because of their hate for Phyllis, because they could relate)....

Nikki and Katherine have a friendship, but the only time you truly see it is when Nikki's in a crisis or vice versa....

Do they even truly show a genuine female friendship where they just sit together and talk? Or did it die when Nina and Cricket ceased?

It began with Jack Smith.

When he took over he made every female character (besides Colleen, Lily & Sierra) bitchy.

Before that there were enemies & rivalries but Y&R was no different from any other soap when it came to female friendships.

Edited March 19, 200817 yr by DeeeDee