This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

I'll use the gun argument of people pulling the trigger. These companies are the ones who actually made these loans.

So then, bandb, you don't blame Bush's economic policies for the current state of the economy?

So then, bandb, you don't blame Bush's economic policies for the current state of the economy?

I'm just saying that there are different people to be blaimed based on how you argue it.

It doesn't matter if the connection is there or not. It's not about a connection. It's about a scare tactic to connect Obama to a side of Islam of which he is not a part of. Many in the United States don't know anything about that religion other than those who attacked us belong to it.

Sad times these are...I never thought I would see the day that a nominee for the President of the United States of America would have a name that could be used as a scare tactic.

Again, it is all about the connotation. People know how they mean it when they say it. If you truly don't mean anything negative, then okay, say it all you want.

And by saying Barry H, you are implying that his last name is Hussein, which is just wanting to make the "connection" that much clearer.

I will admit that I've referred to GWB as George W. But that again, is a different connotation. I don't mean to draw attention to his middle name at all. It just sounds "country" and he fits that image.

Is there something wrong with being "country"? I mean, bandb, does your nose crinkle up when you say it, like it's disgusting or something? Wait... YOU using W. for effect in referencing the President is acceptable, whereas MY using H. for effect in referencing the Senator from Illinois is NOT acceptable.

I don't get how that works. If your saying that your connotation is more noble than mine, then I've got a Bridge to Nowhere in Chicago to sell you...

I think they care about their bottom line too, probably more so than any other aspect of the business. I believe they would not knowingly have made bad loans unless they were pushed to do so. Pressure from the government can be a very powerful thing.

Why else would they have taken the risk, knowing the possible outcome? Do you think they are all dumbies?

I wouldn't assume that without reading an example. Big business tends to not like democrats, yet they listen to Bill Clinton and his congress?

Is there something wrong with being "country"? I mean, bandb, does your nose crinkle up when you say it, like it's disgusting or something? Wait... YOU using W. for effect in referencing the President is acceptable, whereas MY using H. for effect in referencing the Senator from Illinois is NOT acceptable.

I don't get how that works. If your saying that your connotation is more noble than mine, then I've got a Bridge to Nowhere in Chicago to sell you...

I'm not saying anything is wrong with being country. I'm from the south so don't get all offended. Obviously you were looking to find some offense in that because I'm sure GWB would welcome being called "country."

Did anyone ever call BC, Bill J? Or GHWB George H? They aren't popularly referred to as those names, why should Obama be called Barry H all of a sudden? It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by bandbfan

I wouldn't assume that without reading an example. Big business tends to not like democrats, yet they listen to Bill Clinton and his congress?

They pretty much have to listen to any party that is in power. The government holds a large degree of leverage over business...Hence the term "power" when referred to the party..

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by Casey008

That is how it comes across. Most of us are used to hearing him referred to as Barack Obama, Obama or sometimes Barack.

Bet you money, Wales, that should he "OMG, NOOOOO!!!" get elected, the press will start referring to him as Barry, just as they refer to Bush as W.

Barry is just more fun to say... rolls off the tongue like... well... Mary or Jerry. Even Larry... But even better because, when I say Barry, I get goosebumps all over and I know everything will be just fine...

I'm just saying that there are different people to be blaimed based on how you argue it.

Eh... middle of the road. I like that comment.

Did anyone ever call BC, Bill J? Or GHWB George H? They aren't popularly referred to as those names, why should Obama be called Barry H all of a sudden? It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

They call Bush --Dubya-- not a positive connotation, I assure you...Republicans are not up in arms about it though...

Clinton...Slick Willie..anyone?

Heaven forbid you call Obama by his actual name...you are using scare tactics!

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by Casey008

They call Bush --Dubya-- not a positive connotation, I assure you...Republicans are not up in arms about it though...

Clinton...Slick Willie..anyone?

Slick Willie doesn't have anything to do with terrorism (well, it might if you're a woman...), but you know what I mean. Saddam HUSSEIN anyone. I can only say it's obvious what people think of when they hear that name, which is why I say it depends on your motives when you use it.

Being called Barry is completely fine. I just question throwing the H on it.

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by bandbfan

They call Bush --Dubya-- not a positive connotation, I assure you...Republicans are not up in arms about it though...

Clinton...Slick Willie..anyone?

You know... that took on a whole new meaning after his little Cigar vs. Monica Lewinski thing.

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by wostwebmaster

Slick Willie doesn't have anything to do with terrorism (well, it might if you're a woman...), but you know what I mean. Saddam HUSSEIN anyone. I can only say it's obvious what people think of when they hear that name, which is why I say it depends on your motives when you use it.

Being called Barry is completely fine. I just question throwing the H on it.

Ok. Obama's middle name is off limits...fine...we cant judge connotation very well in writing...this is ridiculous..

You know... that took on a whole new meaning after his little Cigar vs. Monica Lewinski thing.

Gross! LOL

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by Casey008

They call Bush --Dubya-- not a positive connotation, I assure you...Republicans are not up in arms about it though...

Clinton...Slick Willie..anyone?

Heaven forbid you call Obama by his actual name...you are using scare tactics!

Speaking of names, is there a reason that nearly nobody called John McCain by his middle name during the convention? Was that supposed to be a jab at democrats that I'm just now picking up on? They nearly all said John S. McCain.

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by bandbfan

I wouldn't assume that without reading an example. Big business tends to not like democrats, yet they listen to Bill Clinton and his congress?

I'm not saying anything is wrong with being country. I'm from the south so don't get all offended. Obviously you were looking to find some offense in that because I'm sure GWB would welcome being called "country."

Did anyone ever call BC, Bill J? Or GHWB George H? They aren't popularly referred to as those names, why should Obama be called Barry H all of a sudden? It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

I'm only half following this since I don't read all of the posts and I applaud you for dealing with this. People call refer to Bush as W or GW to distinguish him from his father since he isn't a junior, otherwise he'd probably be referred to as Jr. That's not comparable to calling someone by a name that isn't commonly used in reference to that person.

Speaking of names, is there a reason that nearly nobody called John McCain by his middle name during the convention? Was that supposed to be a jab at democrats that I'm just now picking up on? They nearly all said John L. McCain.

S....

I heard them call him Sydney...a few times..

S....

I heard them call him Sydney...a few times..

Wow I messed that up. LOL.

I mean some did. But a lot of people just said S.

Edited September 19, 200817 yr by bandbfan