I wonder if you've had a chance to read the tax article that someone posted yesterday or the day before (I think Jess did). What is your reaction to that?

I did. It was a somewhat fair representation. I like the fact that McCain's plan has negative numbers across the board. I wish I could find an article about the corporate tax rate that compares McCain and Obama.

I'm sure it would show that McCain understands that if you tax ...oil companies...for example that they will pass the cost into the price of gas...orgies..or no orgies..

Does it make sense what I am saying? That corporations do not pay taxes? They pass it into the price of their products.. It sounds good to increase taxes on the higher incomes, but it ends up hurting the middle class.

Not always. From the same article you linked:

They may not actually pay the tax, but they are taxed. What do you think of a company that gets a tax break from the city/county/state government to build an office under the premise of hiring X people, by X time frame, making X salary and the corporation doesn't meet that agreement? Should the government entity that gave the corporations the tax break to begin with fully tax them? Or should they keep getting a tax break for jobs they were suppose to create locally but instead hired someone in India to do it?

I'm talking about taxing businesses on the national level..But to answer your question, if they are required to do anything by contract, of course they should follow through. I've always thought that the purpose of a contract would be to use in court if requirements are not met.

How will it help to tax them more? Will that motivate them to bring jobs back? This is the problem I have with understand that philosophy..

Edited September 12, 200817 yr by Casey008

Not always. From the same article you linked:

They may not actually pay the tax, but they are taxed. What do you think of a company that gets a tax break from the city/county/state government to build an office under the premise of hiring X people, by X time frame, making X salary and the corporation doesn't meet that agreement? Should the government entity that gave the corporations the tax break to begin with fully tax them? Or should they keep getting a tax break for jobs they were suppose to create locally but instead hired someone in India to do it?

You know, it's a company-by-company deal. It depends on which company actually keeps their word.

But IA with you.......when I read oil & energy companies are having parties and orgies on my dime, and that they should still receive huge tax breaks, yeas Greg, that would piss me off as much as it does you.

Edited September 12, 200817 yr by Roman

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-mjfuE...w6le4AD9357J100

Palin's climate remarks conflict with past views

It sounds like the ladies on TV grilled him the way the MSM are not doing.

For once, I'm proud of them. What else did they say, and how did he react?

Hey Roman. I would definitely check it out online later if you can. There were some great moments.

Babs really gave it to him what he and SP meant by "reform" when their party has been in power the last 8 years. "What specifically is she going to reform?" She asked that about 4 times before he responded with how she "reformed" Alaska. That was the most visually ackward moment.

But they didn't give him a break on anything - the ads that are lies. Oh - Whoopie questioned him about separation of Church and State and if he believed in that. He answered that he did. Then Whoopie asked why he picked a VP that obviously doesn't share that view and how does he feel about it.

Overall, I would suggest everyone catch it online (if you can). I'm assuming that ABC posts their daytime shows on the web like CBS does....

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/12/obama_doubts/

What small-town America is saying about Obama

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail...ccain_on_d.html

Obama Camp Presses McCain on 'Divorced' Remarks

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/c...icle4735295.ece

Interesting Times Online UK article. It mostly questions Barack Obama's openness to bipartisanship and his democratic voting record.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bull...etin_080912.htm

In ABC Interview, Palin Seen As Struggling With Foreign Policy

They may not actually pay the tax, but they are taxed.

Exactly! Who does pay it? The consumer...

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bull...etin_080912.htm

In ABC Interview, Palin Seen As Struggling With Foreign Policy

I'm not sure if Palin's reason for nomination has been lost somehow, but I dont believe McCain picked her to be an expert on foreign policy. I think that may have been Obama's reasoning behind his pick of Biden.

McCain is banking on his own experience for matters of the world. Palin's greatest use is going to be implementing her reform credentials in Washington.

Edited September 12, 200817 yr by Casey008

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesi...stand-them.html

Sarah Palin's Charles Gibson Interview—We Know She Can Memorize the Talking Points, but Does She Understand Them?

http://www.univision.com/content/content.j...amp;cid=1669256

Alone with John McCain

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200...12/1382169.aspx

McCain: Mr. Straight Talk?

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/12/obama_doubts/

What small-town America is saying about Obama

This doesn't surprise me. I still can't believe that there are people who feel this way:

12 percent of Americans still believed Obama was a Muslim -- even after the long Democratic primary battle that was covered heavily in the national media. Among rural Americans, 19 percent still believed he was a Muslim.

As long as the electorate either refuses to listen to real news stories and votes via the rumor mill, this isn't going to change soon. These types of people still believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11. There's no getting through to them.

And the Repubs could care less how they win the election. They aren't going to win on the issues, so if they can get enough "swing" votes from uneducated voters that think Obama is a muslim, they'll take it. It's nothing that they should be proud of.

Exactly! Who does pay it? The consumer...

I've already answered that in a previous post.

What does "Change" cost?

Edited September 12, 200817 yr by Casey008