Barack Obama Elected President!

[Wales2004]

No Problem. It just so happened that I heard about that bit of hypocrisy on tv a little while ago. This is interesting too:

McCain's Ad Cites Articles That Rip Him Worse Than Obama

Nico Pitney and Sam Stein

[Roman]

You mean they didn't vet the ads?

Figures.

[Wales2004]

The reaching is a bit pathetic because no matter how they want to paint Obama, they should at least be able to concede that he has manners and wouldn't be stupid enough to call Palin a pig. All of their fake outrage will eventaully start blowing up in their faces.

[GoldenDogs]

Startled by Wales' unexpected appearance, a wide-eyed Brian looks up and drops the paintbrush, then hurriedly runs away, drops of paint trailing in his wake...

[Wales2004]

They think everyone is stupid except them.

[JackPeyton]

I got Obama 4, the rest McCain...

I agree. CNN was talking about what a stupid comment this was because it brought him down levels people didnt think he would sink to and that it also now will overpwoer whatever message or issues he did talk about. this will now be the focus.

[Greg's GL]

OK. I see what you're saying now....

ICAM. I'm so tired of Repubs whining about the "liberal media", when as JP points out above, CNN is even jumping on the bandwagon about that remark (aren't they usually targeted as being "liberal"?). When McCain himself said this same thing, was it pointed out like this in the media? Nope. Jeez, what cry babies. And I'm STILL waiting on The New Yorker to place a derogative cover on McCain like they did to Obama. Somehow, I don't think that will happen.

Here's an interesting article from one of our local columnists I thought I'd share:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-maxwell...0,507846.column

[JackPeyton]

It all bothers me. it seems each side only wants the other side to be made fun of, called out, and targeted. If it happens to the eprson they support no matter what its unfair, unblanced, and wrong., yet when it happens to other person its fine and dandy.

Personal attacks should not be ok from either side to the other. Attack the voting record, argue there standpoints. There are plenty of things to argue and debate without bringing in personal attacks. The media is to blame, but the partys and the supporters are not blameless either.

I dont care about Obama's church, palins daughter, or McCain's affair decades ago. I did at one point, im not going to deny it. but do i now? Not at all. I care about the issues.

[Greg's GL]

Well said, JP. I would love love love this campaign season to be about the issues. If it were, the polls would look very different now and in Obama's favor. But everywhere you turn, and IA that the media is driving this, you see articles on the candidates "moral" standing or their church (both Obama and Palin - except now they are saying Palin's religion is out of bounds after they ran Obama's through the ringer) or their family dynamics.

I believe if the media wasn't fueling the fire, most of these things would never be mentioned. I mean, really, does it matter if someone wears a flag pin or not? I don't think so.

That being said, I believe that there is one party that plays into these non-issues the media throw out there more than the other. In this election and historically, if it will get votes to their side, they will use it. I won't say which party I believe it is, but will leave that for debate....

[JackPeyton]

Well, idk if i agree with that.

But overall i agree.

Really, i dont care who you support. Just support them because of the issues, not every other reason.

[JackPeyton]

Is there another debate?

If so when?

And when is election day, nov 4th? Do we find out who wins that night? Because i think im gonna take it off and spend it at a bar, lol...

[Ryan]

Oy vey...seriously? The hypocrisy is showing right now....I love all the fake "outrage". A line McCain has used more than once, people say it's fair to assume he was talking about Hillary Clinton.

A line Obama has used more than once, now they say he's talking about Palin. Right....I guess if Obama tries to paint her as "exotic" and "not one of us" that'll be something "sexist" too right?

GMAFB

[Greg's GL]

Anything to sway voters to their side. Everytime. I'm starting to dread the VP debate, because they are going to spin Biden's performance into something sexist, no matter how benign the statement is.

Now it's up to the "liberal" media to call McCain out on his hypocrisy. Somehow I don't think that will happen.

[wiccachick_1]

So....ummmm....back to some issues. I found this. It's a report from Citizens Against Government Waste. It shows how senators voted on issues of pork barrel spending in fiscal year 2007 and then over his/her career in the senate. The results are given in percentages and are given from the perspective of the taxpayer. Therefore if a senator has a 55% rating it means that he voted "for" (in the interest of) the taxpayers.

http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/....pdf?docID=3242

Our candidates/VP candidate (Palin does not vote in the US Senate so there is no data here) stand as follows:

McCain

2007 100%

Lifetime 88%

Biden

2007 0%

Lifetime 22%

Obama

2007 10%

Lifetime 18%

Interesting. Specific Bills are listed in the report.

[Greg's GL]

I say that because for MONTHS all the media could talk about was Obama's "radical" minister. Then talk of him being "exotic". Then (I know I keep mentioning this) The New Yorker cover. Then the Repubs questioning his faith and his not wearing a [!@#$%^&*] flag pin. How is this relevant to anything?

I mean, enough already. Any voter who would be gullible enough (and they exist) to swallow all of this bullshit has been swayed. And not by the issues. By the media and the opposing party running with anything that hits the news wire that's the least bit controversial.

Now they are saying that personal issues are off limits? GMAFB.