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Barack Obama Elected President!

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In the interest of fairness:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/how...led_corrup.html

How Sarah Palin Handled Corruption

From an Alaskan who is a very serious cynic about all things political, here is my take on Sarah.

I met and spoke with Sarah Palin about two years ago at our downtown park strip. It is a place for walking, carnivals, political outdoor things and such. She was cooking hotdogs at a fund raiser and introducing herself to the public as a Governor hopeful.

She came by and said the usual "Hi, I'm Sarah Palin and I am running for Governor"...and I expected her to keep on to the next person but she asked me who I was and what I did in Alaska and we ended up talking for 15 minutes about me, Air America (she was all agog!) and my career in the Army and AAM. She is a pilot (Super Cub) I'm told, although all she told me about that was that she loved flying.

As I watched her successful run for governor over the next six months, I was really impressed. In fact I already was impressed greatly even before that, after she resigned a good position (Alaska Gas and Oil Regulatory Commission) because a fellow Commission member (Chair of the Alaska Republican Party) misused his office and position. He was using the fax, computers, printing room and all to promote the Republican endeavors while in a state job. That is a huge no-no in any government employment position.

She resigned and made her point, and within weeks Randy Ruderich (the above bad guy) found his butt out on the street and a subsequent investigation found him guilty and he was fined $12,000. Small change actually but a giant point was made.

Next she went after our most horrible Governor ever, Governor Murkowski, and damned if she didn't beat him! All of us here in Alaska, except the Democrats, are sick of our state's corruption. That fact was shouted to the heavens after she was elected with an overwhelming point spread.

After she got into office she started going after corrupt legislators, and with the FBI's help we've put four of them in prison, indicted six more and the "Corrupt Bastard's Club" as they arrogantly called themselves (even had hats made with CBC on the front!) suddenly found it no fun anymore.

The current flap which has cost her a ten point loss of popularity (she's still 82%!) was over firing a popular Commissioner of Public Safety who is responsible for our Alaska State Troopers. She fired him for no stated reason, which was her prerogative as the guv. He served entirely at her option. She and her whole family had a bad, bad experience with a rogue Trooper who was married to Sarah's sister. His name is Trooper Wooten. This dimwit Trooper had threatened Sarah's father (death threat!), threatened Sarah ("I'll get you too"), Tasered his 12 year old stepson, drove drunk in his AST cruiser, got a pass by a fellow Trooper who stopped him for erratic driving a second time while in civvies, and just a host of other things not yet released to the public. He got away with it and got another pass by the Commissioner's appointed AST Trooper Internal Affairs investigator with a tiny slap on the wrist. Five days off without pay to be exact.

This maverick Trooper is still on the payroll but only just. The union's intervention saved his malcontent butt. He'll yet get his, I'm sure. Incredible heat is being heaped on the Troopers. Public heat, not the Governors office.

The Democrats had the audacity to appoint an obviously biased investigator, Rep. "Gunny" French (so called because he lied about being in the USMC while running for the legislature) is a staunch liberal and probably under the orders of Senate President Lyda Green who hates Sarah. She hates Sarah because after being elected Governor Sarah told the whole Legislature in one of her first meetings with them that, quote; "All of you here need some Adult Supervision!"

Sarah was seriously angry and not afraid of anyone there. That played wonderfully well with Alaskans. We are sick of all of our corruption watched her successful battles against a seriously entrenched corrupt government before she took on the legislature. The whole legislature was angry back at her and still are, but also afraid of her because of her popularity.

She reminds me personally of our Alaska wolverine which will fight anything in its path if it sees fit to do so. No respect at all for size or position.

In closing I must tell you that she is the best, most moral and most focused leader I've seen since President Reagan. I feel, really strongly that like Alaska, the rest of our country will love her within a few weeks. Put simply, she represents Middle America like no leader we've ever had.

I think McCain made a totally brilliant move in choosing her. She's a maverick who is probably tougher and more focused than McCain himself... and she won't be a total yes man, or more appropriately, yes woman.

McCain will love her.

In 2012 she will be President.

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Didn't seem to bother you when I was offended by Jess and her "joking" about Republicans being Nazis..

I think I've made a fair attempt to be civil with you. I have generally been in the habit of apolotizing if someone mistakes my tone for other than what it is, out of courtesy. I think it's a drain when someone misinterprets my tone because of whatever they're feeling or assuming but I still try to take note of that. Today's the first time I didn't bother because I just didn't.

If you want to make me responsible for Jess then I won't be. You have no idea what bothers me or not and I happen to like many of Jess' post. I'm not interested in getting in between you and her and I didn't sift through all of your exchanges to know how things arrived at that point.

Unless you're saying that I said something to you then I can't help you. I don't see how that changes anything since I'm not an enforcer. I can believe people should be mindful but I can't make it happen. I don't even wish to have that kind of power or influence over anyone.....except maybe my family.

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obama_smoking.jpg

Is this picture real?

He did smoke once upon a time didn't he? How long ago did he quit? Not that it should really matter politically LOL if he smokes or not.

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Thanks for the response to my question about who Zel Miller is. I guess I could have done the smart thing and looked him up but thanks for saving me the effort.

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Thanks for the response to my question about who Zel Miller is. I guess I could have done the smart thing and looked him up but thanks for saving me the effort.

Before you posted I looked into it because I wondered who the hell he was too LOL.

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Still in the interest of fairness

Support for Joe Biden

http://www.lcv.org/newsroom/press-releases...nomination.html

LCV Hails Choice of Senator Joe Biden for Vice Presidential Nomination

WASHINGTON, DC - The League of Conservation Voters (LCV), which works to turn environmental values into national priorities, applauds Barack Obama’s choice of Senator Joe Biden as his running mate. Biden will heighten the level of environmental discourse on the campaign trail and, as Vice President, will be a strong voice for a new, clean energy future for this country.

“With a lifetime LCV environmental score of 83%, Joe Biden recognizes that ending our addiction to oil is vital to our national security,” LCV President Gene Karpinski said. “Senator Biden is a long-time leader on key energy and environmental issues, and the members of LCV enthusiastically support Senator Obama’s choice.”

In 2007 alone, Biden voted to strengthen CAFÉ standards and to repeal unjust subsidies to oil companies. In 1986, he introduced the first bill designed to limit global warming pollution.

Biden has been a leader on global warming issues, chairing Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on the national security implications of unchecked global warming. He teamed with Republican Senator Dick Lugar to co-author and pass a resolution calling on the Bush Administration to return to international negotiations to address climate change. He has sponsored and supported numerous bills throughout his career that would decrease America’s dependence on foreign oil and increase investment in new technologies and renewable fuels. Biden has sponsored a bill to increase fuel economy standards for all automobiles, voted yes on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025, and rejected drilling in ANWR; measures that have strong environmental and economic benefits for America.

“Barack Obama’s plan for global warming and energy independence is the most substantive, comprehensive plan ever put forward by a nominee for President,” said Karpinski. “Biden’s progressive energy stance will only serve to augment Obama’s visionary plan. They will usher in a new era of environmental leadership.”

I like to talk about the positives of candidates and running mates and make judgments on policy, effectiveness, independance, and priorities.

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I like to talk about the positives of candidates and running mates and make judgments on policy, effectiveness, independance, and priorities.

So do many in this thread :)

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So do many in this thread :)

I totally believe you and that's why I'm providing positive endorsements on both for those that like that kind of information.

BOTH parties have gotten so ugly with attack campaigns and I hope that someday soon they will realize that the American voter is getting fed up with that tactic. Don't tell me about crap that just muddies the waters. Give me something I can USE to make an informed decision instead of letting me walk into the voting booth with only tabloid gossip and and idea of who has the most innovative namecalling. ;)

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It was a phrase often used to refer to African Americans who believe in equality. If the Congressman says he did not know that phrase had racial overtones, I believe him. I also believe that Obama was not being sexist when he said Hillary Clinton lashes out when she is down. Nor do I think Bill Clinton said anything racist.

American's are getting sick of the negative crap. And, they are getting sick of ads that lie.

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He supported the position of supporting the troups in Iraq in 2004 parting with the Democratic Party platform however he did not renounce his party.

Didn't Zel Miller speak at the Republican Convention in 2004? If he did, that is pretty much renouncing them without saying it. I seem to recall that he appeared there... Of course, what did he have to lose? He was on his way out anyway...

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To everyone that reads any of my posts, I apologize for my horrid typos and atrocious grammar. It's plain to see that the California public school system has failed me or maybe I've failed it but hopefully this will prompt you to support better education across the board. B)

LOL Wales... I'm in California, too, but I seem to do a pretty good job spelling.

I'm prowd uf maiself. :D

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http://www.ctj.org/html/mcca00pr.htm

I just found this, so everyone can read it and decided for themselves.

Why should I care if some making A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR have their income taxes raised?

Because, in many cases, those people are the ones hiring you. And given how they enjoy profit, they would rather lay you off to offset the increase in their taxes rather than be out the money. How do you think Big Oil has remained rich with record profits? When the going got rough, they passed their increased costs to us rather than eat away at their bottom line. We can take from the rich... it won't hurt them, but it always manages to bite US in the butt!

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http://www.ctj.org/html/mcca00pr.htm

I just found this, so everyone can read it and decided for themselves.

Why should I care if some making A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR have their income taxes raised?

I dont know if you should.

But i sure as hell dont think its fair or right to make those who do better in life and support the lifestyle they want by making them pay more than people who do not do as well in life as they do. They worked for it, they deserve it. Everyone should pay the same amount.

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