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Barack Obama Elected President!

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He was never governor, only mayor.

yes, I knew that. It was a mistake. It was not a joke, mind you, just a mistake. I don't want to offend you. So let me officially post my correction: except for 9/11, he was totally unimpressive as MAYOR.

Now back on the who is qualified topic and unrelated to my previous drror:

As far as experience, if executive experience is the true test, than McCain does not have experience to be president either. Since there is only one president at a time, and since the president of the United States is the most power individual in the world, it would seem that nobody has the experience to be president except those who have already been president. The most recent president with his executive experience was a total bomb so I guess we can rule out that former president as having the necessary requirements. Governors ran for the nomination and none of them got it this year so perhaps people have decided that want something other than "executive" experience.

In my opinion, a president should have the ability to lead and rally Americans and the ability to have some credibility with foreign leaders. Since Obama is the candidate who is not going to represent the Third Bush term and he seems able to motivate people, I think he is a good leader. Also, he does seem to talk about something other than winning a war that we should not be in, and he does seem willing to deploy troops to the war that we should be in, I like him. Also, the fact that he seemed to have the ability to meet with foreign leaders without blustering, I think he can build credibility. I really get tired of GOP chest pounding and saber rattling.

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Thanks for posting that AP article.

I saw Cindy once again say that she has foriegn policy experience becasue of where Alaska sits geographically to Russia. I just laugh every time I hear someone say this........one because this is the best they can come up with, and two they are repeating the same line Steve Doocy of Fixed News used earlier this week.

They showed a video of Rosa Parks?

She was probably the only black person in the building! :lol:

I kid, I kid. :P

I was laughing with a friend about the border stuff. I said that since we're close to Mexico that we have a whole host of foreign policy experience. I don't suppose they know how idiotic they sound repeating that.

No Rosa wasn't the only one but she was the only one who shouldn't have been since it was sheer shameless exploitation.

I did see some footage of some black Republicans being asked about Barack Obama and that had me shaking my head but at least one of them pointed out that just because he's black they don't have to agree with him. That is so very true.

Hey as long as Colin Powell wasn't there all is well.

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yes, I knew that. It was a mistake. It was not a joke, mind you, just a mistake. I don't want to offend you. So let me officially post my correction: except for 9/11, he was totally unimpressive as MAYOR.

Jess :D:D:D

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I was laughing with a friend about the border stuff. I said that since we're close to Mexico that we have a whole host of foreign policy experience. I don't suppose they know how idiotic they sound repeating that.

No Rosa wasn't the only one but she was the only one who shouldn't have been since it was sheer shameless exploitation.

I did see some footage of some black Republicans being asked about Barack Obama and that had me shaking my head but at least one of them pointed out that just because he's black they don't have to agree with him. That is so very true.

Hey as long as Colin Powell wasn't there all is well.

The other day the showed the vice presidential nominee meeting with Laura Bush and Cindy McCain. I guess she is viewed by the campaign as one of the First Ladies.

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yes, I knew that. It was a mistake. It was not a joke, mind you, just a mistake. I don't want to offend you. So let me officially post my correction: except for 9/11, he was totally unimpressive as MAYOR.

I wasn't offended by you calling Rudy a governor. That's not really the same as relating the party I belong to a group of people that killed millions.

Like I said before it's your prerogative to joke about whatever you like, but you lost my respect when you seemed to think it was cute or ok to joke about republicans being Nazis.

You made it clear that you do not need a lecture, but you still need to realize the impact of your comments.

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The other day the showed the vice presidential nominee meeting with Laura Bush and Cindy McCain. I guess she is viewed by the campaign as one of the First Ladies.

Now that's funny and I guess had it been her husband as the VP candidate it would have made sense.

IA with your edited response above. I think Obama exemplifies the qualities of a leader and being able to communicate is extremely important. It's my understanding that European leaders like him because they see him as diplomatic and that's important to them since they don't want to be constantly pushed in supporting wars when diplomatic strategies might work.

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Now that's funny and I guess had it been her husband as the VP candidate it would have made sense.

IA with your edited response above. I think Obama exemplifies the qualities of a leader and being able to communicate is extremely important. It's my understanding that European leaders like him because they see him as diplomatic and that's important to them since they don't want to be constantly pushed in supporting wars when diplomatic strategies might work.

I wonder how they feel then about Obama's plan to strengthen our presence in Afghanistan.

I think Europe would look to John McCain for leadership rather than Obama looking to Europe for guidance. It would seem more important to me to make decisions that would best ensure the safety of Americans rather than European preferences.

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Now that's funny and I guess had it been her husband as the VP candidate it would have made sense.

IA with your edited response above. I think Obama exemplifies the qualities of a leader and being able to communicate is extremely important. It's my understanding that European leaders like him because they see him as diplomatic and that's important to them since they don't want to be constantly pushed in supporting wars when diplomatic strategies might work.

Military force should be the last option. I don't think we'll get that with a McCain Admin. We'll get the very same shoot-from-the-hip, reactionary foreign policy that has us bogged down in Iraq and has lost the faith of the European Community.

FP is nuanced. You can either react to situations in a region, shoot first and ask no question, or try to strike a balnce in the middle. Obama and Biden would do that........McCain would just as soon launch a attack on America's enemies and then wonder why everyone is pissed off at America, and then we can rely on Palin's FP experience.....

I mean after all, Alaska sits close to Europe.

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Military force should be the last option. I don't think we'll get that with a McCain Admin. We'll get the very same shoot-from-the-hip, reactionary foreign policy that has us bogged down in Iraq and has lost the faith of the European Community.

FP is nuanced. You can either react to situations in a region, shoot first and ask no question, or try to strike a balnce in the middle. Obama and Biden would do that........McCain would just as soon launch a attack on America's enemies and then wonder why everyone is pissed off at America, and then we can rely on Palin's FP experience.....

Diplomacy does have its place. With that being said, I believe McCain will be a closer match to George H.W. Bush and Reagan than W.

McCain models his approach to foreign policy much like the Reagan administration.

I mean after all, Alaska sits close to Europe.

It is closer than Illinois ;)

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They drew a strong correlation between McCain and Reagan last night. (some of you guys might have missed that while reading the liberal blogs instead of watching)

McCain was more involved with the Reagan admin than any other since becoming a senator. He was as they like to say, a "foot soldier" in the Reagan Revolution.

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So let me officially post my correction: except for 9/11, he was totally unimpressive as MAYOR.

Rudy Giuliani was only three months away from leaving office when the attacks occured. He was responsible for completely revitalizing the economy of NYC. He turned it from a stagnant city that was riddled with crime into one that now thrives.

Funny how that is unimpressive to democrats just because he is the keynote speaker on the behalf of John McCain.

He was IMO the best MAYOR in the history of our nation.

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