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Roman, don't twist my words around. You know exactly what I meant with my post. I clearly meant that there are Obama supporters who have reservations about Hillary and Obama can discuss amongst them why it is okay to support her if he is on the ticket as the VP candidate.

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You seem to be negative about everything...There are also a good amount of Clinton supporters who are not committed to Obama because he has not been specific enough about his ideas as president, along with a myriad of other issues. If Obama is the nominee for president without Hillary on the ticket, a good amount of her supporters will go to McCain (28%, according to a recent Gallup poll) and not fall in line for him.

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I stated my opinion. When I read your post, you said that he can easily persuade us to vote for her.

To me, that gives off the impression that we fall for his great words, and that we will believe whatever he says, no matter how he says it.

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She is a politician. She, like all of them, do not tell the truth a whole lot and that includes Obama.

Obama says he is anti Iraq and wants to pull out of the nation but also wishes for military action in Pakistan. Would he start a war with them knowing full well we cannot afford it or make it a short lived mission?

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That's true.

And I have given you that. But it seems like when it comes to her, whatever she does is blown off because "She's a politician."

I would rather deal with the person who said one thing and will do another (Which is what they all do) instead of a person who has NOW said that she was suffering from sleep deprevation when she lied about her Bosnia trip....

For the 4th time.

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I am not sure if the sleep deprivation was a lie but, being someone who has been sleep deprived before, I can tell you that you have different accounts of what happens. You hallucinate, act goofy, see things that are not there (she obviously could have seen gunfire but there was not). I do not know the entire story behind the Bosnia thing but I think what is more important is looking at positions on issues.

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I guess the Wright drama is still a huge topic, Obama goes on the View tomorrow and he stated, "Had the reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying at the church," Obama said Thursday during a taping of the ABC talk show, "The View."

You know everyone will be discussing this tomorrow. I think this is a little too late, he should of said this during his speech to make a real impact and I feel its a cop out, because of course you can say you would of left if he stayed but he's retired.lol

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I agree that he should have said this in his speech last week (Ryan posted a clip of it here)....I am going to see if I can watch The View tomorrow

Please tell me Bitsy won't be there as well because odds are she will throw out some lame, uneducated, conservative opinions :rolleyes:

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IMO they aren't all arrogant. I think there are some that are humble and really want to do the job they set out to do. Some are kind of abrasive and in your face and some come across as very slimey hustlers.

Having both Obama and Clinton on the same ticket might sound ideal to some (certainly not me) and I don't see that as a winning combination. If he aspires to become president then he shouldn't settle. It's been awhile since a former vp was elected president. There's too much of a possibility that something negative would happen while someone is serving as vp that would negatively impact that individual's chances of being elected. People are more inclined to become fed up with the party in charge after two terms so that they alternate in their voting habits.

As far as Obama having a way with words and being able to convince his supporters to fall in line behind Hilary Clinton, I seriously doubt it. People aren't being won over by his words as Hilary Clinton suggests and as seems to be the popular belief. (And yes the suggestion that his words will win people over does potentially come across as insulting people who might support him since it implies that they aren't thinking but merely reacting). People are being won over by HOPE. Yes he uses words to inspire hope but it's an intangible and it's about many things including the idea of change. To those people, Hilary Clinton will never represent change because she's a career politician who is nowhere near as inspirational as he is to them. He has the ability to actually get people to tune in to a state of the union address above what she might do.

She'd be making history being the first female president but women outnumber men in this country and have the ability to vote a woman into office anytime they want to pool together and do it.

Not only do politicians lie every day but ordinary people do it on a regular basis as well. If a person is going to hold themselves up over another as being truthful or having integrity then they should show a whole lot of it themselves. And as for Hilary Clinton "misspeaking," that is a bunch of BS and was a flat out lie. I've been sleep deprived before and I am quite certain that I wouldn't be confused about whether or not I was in the midst of gunfire. If someone ever shoots at you, unless you are traumatized to the extent that you block it out of your mind, you'll remember.

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Sometimes, sleep deprivation can coincide with a psychotic break where your light fuse in your brain pretty much turns off. When you come to, you don't remember a thing during the break.

Odds are she was not sleep deprived and remembered clearly what happened to her in Bosnia...I just do not understand why she brought it up when it was unnecessary.

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