Hee.

Who else thinks Lee Philip Bell was the one who "persuaded" Sony not to renew LML's contract?

I mean, I know I'm just projecting here, but I can't shake this image in my head of Lee, barging into Steve Kent's office all Stephanie Forrester-like, and telling him, "That woman returns to my husband's show over my dead body!"

Khan, know'st thou of anything else besides sarcasm?

Sylph, know'st thou of the "Manage Ignored Users" function?

GH:

- Mary Sue Price back as Script Writer on March 14

Interesting. And expected.

Does this mean GH will be the first soap to list all their writers back?

So you watched a show for the dialogue instead of story? What?

I do that with GH because...

Sure. What's so strange about that? Michele Val Jean, Mary Sue Price, Tracey Thomson, Karen Harris, Susan Wald - what more could you want?

...of exactly this reason.

Yeah you're that GH has good dialogue but I just never heard of someone actually watching a show FOR the dialogue, while the story sucks.

Believe me, Mary Sue Price is what attracted me to GH. I just so happened to have caught an episode of GH during the summer of 2000 on Soap Net. I enjoyed the dialog which got me hooked. That was back in the day when they would put the writing and directing credits at the end of the show, and it just so happened Mary Sue Price had written that episode. It got to a point that even during the boring McTavish year (2001 sans Michele Val Jean), no matter how inane the plotting was, I could always pinpoint a MSP episode by the dialog -- and 9 times out of 10, at the end of the show, I was right. Even to this day (well, pre-strike) if I see Michele Val Jean or Mary Sue Price as the day's scriptwriter, I will watch the entire episode just to listen to the dialog. I live for Mary Sue Price's confrontation scenes.

If R Sinclair comes to this board any time soon, I'd like him to remind me about his thoughts on Joanna Cohen.

Don't get me started on Joanna Cohen -- before the Beall Lovers come out and start throwing around the accusation that I'm either Cohen or her part time lover. But I do enjoy Cohen's writing.

Sinclair will be happy if she took the financial core status, she's his least favourite scriptwriter.

...

Maybe I should correct myself, too: I believe Sinclair said she's like "hit and miss", sometimes he likes her scripts, sometimes he hates them.

Well, to be clear, I have no STRONG feelings about Susan Wald's writing either way. I do agree with the assessment that I think her writing is hit or miss. I think she excels in writing relationship arguments. Like when Sonny and Tamara Braun's Carly used to argue, WHEW! Excellent fights between them. But for the most part with her writing, I'm always left thinking "Hmmm... more could've been said. That scene was just too... simple!" And I don't mean the scene length or what could have been, might've been edited, but just her dialog in general. With Michele Val Jean or Mary Sue Price, on the other hand, it's very crisp and concise. Tracy Thomson is definitely joining my list of favorites as well.

Edited March 15, 200817 yr by R Sinclair

Oooh, this post has made me tingly! Here's a part of Mary Sue Price's dialogue you quoted, R, somewhere on this board:

I liked Beall at first, too. I am a fan of GH's longtime scriptwriter, Mary Sue Price, who is fantastic at writing confrontation scenes. There is so much attitude, no holds barred, and I love it! I mean, to any gay male soap watcher, that is just to die for! One of my favorites from Price is when Brenda and Skye had a little catfight in November of 2002.

Skye:

Jax and I made love tonight -- and it was fabulous.

Brenda

: Well, that's great, Skye. Good to know. Last time I saw you in bed with Jax, you had all your clothes on. So, I'm sorry, just explain this to me. How do you working girls do that? You just hike your skirt up, right?

Skye:

Gee, Brenda, I guess you'd know better than anyone. But, seriously, either way works for me.

Delicious!

And if I remember correctly, on AMC's side you loathe Chip Hayes, Jeff Beldner, Rebecca Taylor, Marla Kanelos, Courtney Bugler (of course, that Beach Speech was fabulous), Amanda L. Beall... Which is more or less the whole team! Maybe I forgot someone...

Edited March 15, 200817 yr by Sylph

Also, I had to post this reminder of Patrick Mulcahey's scriptwriting abilities:

Dear Brooke, I am staggered by the news of what happened to you. I cannot tell you how heartsick I am. I know how dreadful it seems now, my getting involved with this man Andy Johnson.

I had no idea what he was capable of. I believed he could have been an answer for you, Brooke, for your loneliness. I was wrong. What I did was unforgivable. But please know that I never intended for things to happen as they did. I would not wish this on my worst enemy.

I went too far. I would ask you to believe that it was only out of my desire to protect your children — misplaced perhaps, but not ill-intentioned. And for my part in the tragedy that has happened to you, I am so very sorry. I know you can never forgive me, and I will need some time away to try to forgive myself. Stephanie.

And to conclude with:

BROOKE:

I will be a woman who has survived rape, proud and strong. I promise you that. I will be a survivor.

And if I remember correctly, on AMC's side you loathe Chip Hayes, Jeff Beldner, Rebecca Taylor, Marla Kanelos, Courtney Bugler (of course, that Beach Speech was fabulous), Amanda L. Beall... Which is more or less the whole team! Maybe I forgot someone...

Basically. Addie Walsh is still on probation in my eyes for writing that HORRIBLE 4th of July episode last year -- which Beall wrote the script for. I wasn't even funny, which I guess was its intention. It was just cruel. I've said plenty of times that AMC's team needs a major overhaul. There's too much garbage on that team. Especially Beall, who props all of McTavish's pets (Anything Lavery, All Things Carey and Tad). But my top three choices to get rid of are Beall, Bugler and Taylor.

It's weird that Jim and Babs didn't bring any of their friends to write for the show... They just hired Sara A. Bibel and Kate Hall, if I recall correctly. I wonder if Sara will show up on Y&R again...

It's weird that Jim and Babs didn't bring any of their friends to write for the show... They just hired Sara A. Bibel and Kate Hall, if I recall correctly. I wonder if Sara will show up on Y&R again...

They brought Ron Renauld on as a script writer. He's a a friend of their's from Dynasty, Loving and The City. And his dialogue sucks. Plus they already had Marla Kanelos and Amanda L. Beall there when they started.

And there's still time. I'm sure Tita Bell's name will be popping at soon enough.

And there's still time. I'm sure Tita Bell's name will be popping at soon enough.

I doubt Tita will leave a secure job at GL to join AMC when the Head Writers will probably be fired by the end of 2008. I just can't see them lasting long.

They brought Ron Renauld on as a script writer. He's a a friend of their's from Dynasty, Loving and The City. And his dialogue sucks. Plus they already had Marla Kanelos and Amanda L. Beall there when they started.

And there's still time. I'm sure Tita Bell's name will be popping at soon enough.

Oh, yes, you're right about Ron! I just hope these two get fired soon! But little good will it do if they replace them with Latham, for example...

Also, I had to post this reminder of Patrick Mulcahey's scriptwriting abilities:

Dear Brooke, I am staggered by the news of what happened to you. I cannot tell you how heartsick I am. I know how dreadful it seems now, my getting involved with this man Andy Johnson.

I had no idea what he was capable of. I believed he could have been an answer for you, Brooke, for your loneliness. I was wrong. What I did was unforgivable. But please know that I never intended for things to happen as they did. I would not wish this on my worst enemy.

I went too far. I would ask you to believe that it was only out of my desire to protect your children — misplaced perhaps, but not ill-intentioned. And for my part in the tragedy that has happened to you, I am so very sorry. I know you can never forgive me, and I will need some time away to try to forgive myself. Stephanie.

And to conclude with:

BROOKE:

I will be a woman who has survived rape, proud and strong. I promise you that. I will be a survivor.

For every one bad script, there's 100 good scripts.

Like I said before, I think B&B is all wrong for Patrick's writing abilities. B&B doesn't have any smart, witty, dynamic characters that Patrick can sink his teeth into - there's no Quartermaines, Capwells or Cassadines. Instead there's Brooke, Nick, Taylor, Ridge, Thorne, Donna, Eric, Rick, Bridget, etc Like really, Patrick rarely gets the chance to do anything special with those bland characters.

Surely SB, GL, and GH fans, over a span of about 15 years, can't be wrong about the greatest script writer of all time.

For every one bad script, there's 100 good scripts.

Like I said before, I think B&B is all wrong for Patrick's writing abilities. B&B doesn't have any smart, witty, dynamic characters that Patrick can sink his teeth into...

Well, this is what I was waiting for! For a great scriptwriter there are no such limitations. You just have to be able to assimilate a variety of styles and be at home in every one of them. So this just proves my point that he isn't all that much. What sort of a great scriptwriter need a certain type of characters to be great?

Surely SB, GL, and GH fans, over a span of about 15 years, can't be wrong about the greatest script writer of all time.

I can acknowledge that some people think very high of him, and there were script I liked that he wrote. Yet, to be called the greatest scriptwriter of all time? That seems exaggerated.

Edited March 15, 200817 yr by Sylph