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Oh my God that is the funniest description I have heard of Wheeler's nightmarish vision of GL..and could there be anything duller then Frank, Matt (despite still looking hot) and Rick together doing ANYTHING?

I think they brought Marcy on to be a Nola type character, but then Lisa, who at that time took EVERY bad/wayward/heading on the wrong track character under 30 under her wing, did just that..nothing like a former bad girl now sassy lady to fix people's wagons. Marcy then became a good girl ditzy dreamy romantic. But I remember the Bob Marcy story being serious...Marcy was looking for a father figure and (who else in Oakdale would you turn to) and confused those feelings with being romantic and turned on him, (with the help of John.) I think it might have been written sloppier then it should have..or as Marland would have written it. But what do I know, at the time my high school/college self had the hots for Jay!!!

I thought Mark was fine..yea, he was the typical non acting hunk but the guy carried it off and tried. I HATED him and Connor, but I HATED Connor and have no idea why anyone liked that witchey nosed woman! But then nothing was worse then Cal and Lyla...(SNORE) and the fight over Indian land or something??? Love Bloom's Orlena and think she could give a class on how to play a villain...Loved her casual dismissal of "The silly Lisa.." and when she killed boring whathisface Grimaldi and delightfully put pressure on his wounds..that was some SCARY [!@#$%^&*]! If only Carmen would have been like that..not only would she work against Chele, but align herself with Alan (was tired of RR with younger women) and fight with Alex..

Yes. HB was meant for Bert but Charita became sick. I remember H.B and Billy's first day was coming into the hospital in their over the top yelling way and getting [!@#$%^&*] from Bert who promptly owned them. Then they had HB looking for Bert for family advice but Charita was sick so Maureen was filling in for her at the hospital so you could tell the scenes were written with Bert in mind. Too bad, a Bert H.B. pairing would have rocked....."Woman..I need my bourbon and branch" .....Bert "Well then you will get yourself..I was married to one drunk I will not repeat it!" HB..."You got some fire in you lady, come on over HERE!"

Yea, Lily and Mark Kasnoff..wasnt she hiding in a box to escape Malta and the customs people were stabbing in with swords...I always wanted to do that to Lily! Seeing those clips and remember the storyline I see how much the GL writers stole from this storyline for Michele vs. Carmen. Too bad they also stole the over the top crazed Orleana replacment actresses version for Carmen. Carmen as Original Recipe Orleana..cool and deadly..mixing it up with the Bauers and the Spauldings would have been fun. Yea, Lily and Mark Kasnoff..wasnt she hiding in a box to escape Malta and the customs people were stabbing in with swords...I always wanted to do that to Lily! Seeing those clips and remember the storyline I see how much the GL writers stole from this storyline for Michele vs. Carmen. Too bad they also stole the over the top crazed Orleana replacment actresses version for Carmen. Carmen as Original Recipe Orleana..cool and deadly..mixing it up with the Bauers and the Spauldings would have been fun. Yea, Lily and Mark Kasnoff..wasnt she hiding in a box to escape Malta and the customs people were stabbing in with swords...I always wanted to do that to Lily! Seeing those clips and remember the storyline I see how much the GL writers stole from this storyline for Michele vs. Carmen. Too bad they also stole the over the top crazed Orleana replacment actresses version for Carmen. Carmen as Original Recipe Orleana..cool and deadly..mixing it up with the Bauers and the Spauldings would have been fun.

Agreed on Marland and Long...but not the Dobs..they sucked...(at least on ATWT.) I thought the perfect writer would be the love child of Marland and Long! I wonder how things would have gone if Marland and Long teamed up..she needed his structure and his control and his respect for history, and he needed her passion, heart and humor. But I think they woulda just ended up killing each other.

This always reminds me of Pam Long watching a tape of her when she returned for guest stint at the Bauer Christmas Eve party, (and the unveil of Blake as Christina...) "That woman is SEXY as hell!"

I don't know if it was the fans that never let go or just TPTB who were afraid of the falling ratings and stuck to formula. Yes, people would scream for a while but if TPTB stuck to their guns they would deal. Lilly/Holden, Reva/Josh, Phillip/Beth, Carly/Jack, there was no interest in their constant break ups as you know they would return to the same old. If they had the same writer back in the day Lisa and Bob would have still been together, Dan would have been raised from the dead for Kim,etc. I actually liked Lily when she was with the blond muscle guy in Malta escaping crazy Orlena...though I was rooting for Orlena...

They had a brief flash to the cemetery where they showed unidentified people standing around with the cast and an older woman crossed herself, which I assumed was supposed to be Bea. Blake mentions that the entire family went to the Boardinghouse afterwards which didnt make sense but at least there was a mention.

But he didn't just have memory loss, right, it was brain damage that was supposed to permanent.

They couldn't make Nola psychic, as her sister in law was during the cabin mystery. Nola and Quint should have gotten that storyline, or at least have been more closely involved..as in Tony and Annabelle are having weird things happening and Nola investigates and starts having psychic visions. Also, Nadine, ( was a rip off of Nola) was psychic during Ghost Reva storyline) she saw her own death from Brent...) Reva's Post Resurrection story lines didn't work as while she acted over the top, Reva was worked best in earthy, down to earth story lines. Even in the 80s with her big hair, big earings and shoulder pads she seemed more human and real as she was dealing with family and relationship issues (sure in big soap opera ways) drawn towards Josh, battling both Billy and H.B...sniping with Van, and then actually against her will, finding love with H.B, and then loosing her baby. All of the best story lines were those that dealt with her sexuality and her trying to find love and family and respect..not the crap that Rauch thought was fitting for her.

Yea, I was referring to Holmes's Tom, not Marx's Tom, who I don't think was porny at all..just sexy and wholesome... ( and would make the perfect dream husband and I would just know what to do with that nasty viper Babs...) I wasnt into Duncan at all..he belonged on Days not ATWT and Evan, well, lets just way it was way too obvious why non of his romances worked out! Funny thing is, I didn't think Holden was all that back in the day (of course I understood why others did) but thought he got sexier as he got older.!!! God..those are cheesy!!! No wonder everyone thinks the soap industry is low rent! I love Orange Boy in his 90's gay Daisy Dukes bending over for the camera!

Oh my imagination had so much "more" involved..if you know what I mean and I think you do...that's okay I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crackers but he really needs to stop the shaving thing... Marland's porny guys "Holden and any of the various farm guys in tight jeans/Evan/Duncan/ Boring and homely..Tom/Hal/Midget Paul/Andy (sorry, I know that is against the law to say that but...)

Yes, and she, like Buzzard was best as part of an ensemble...I don't think she was so bad when McTrash and Laibson were there but as soon as Rauchie was on the scene, he felt that it was OLTL and that Reva was the Vicki character, and Reva was not meant to be the center of the universe..( and I hate comparing Reva to Buzz but Buzz ate the show for several years....) I think Cassie, after Richard's death should have been a bitch on wheels. LW just makes a great snarling bitch that I cant believe they never went there.

I loved Bridget...I liked that she was a normal looking underdog with spunk and never the romantic heroine. I wonder what she and Rick would have been like together and she could have taken over Mo's place with a side of sass. I hated when they regressed her and made Dinah the dullest and most annoying romantic heroine (I loved Moniz as the skinny bitch he played so well) and had Bridge contemplating plastic surgery..I remember her scene with Roger and Zaz played it against what they wrote and somehow he made Rog be fatherly and kind to her in that scene. You could tell both actors worked together to fight the writing in that scene.

Ah, man..those pictures ruined it for me...he looks so skinny..why did he"shave" and uh, no one should wear that little blue number he has on..he looks so porny there....not that I am jealous of your happiness or anything. As for Burke Moses (who played Gaston on stage) I thought he was hot with looked like "man" baby! I dont think Marland knew how to handle someone like that..his guys were all homely boring or porny looking.

Why was Lucinda hugging on James after all he did to her??? Well, they did "kill" Alice in her kitchen by chocking her to death with a donut and then everyone stood around while poor Reid had to sit in a chair and act dead (and not start giggling with the bad dialogue...) all the while Doug's "corpse" was in a casket in the living room (or and the whole thing was played for laughs as Hattie got the last of her donuts and sold them on Ebay..) so I think that set was despoiled long ago and not even the combined forces of Rauch/MADD/Sheffer and Goutman would ever do that to Nancy Hughes or Bert Bauer. And for his next onscreen love interest Evans is a chubby chaser so he is all mine...(well at least Gaston is and he has always need a good.....to set him right.)

Seth would have been the perfect guy to have come out and be gay...his story was perfect..the nice responsible big brother who had to take care of his family and they came first so he never had "time" to date. Deep down he is struggling but his focus is on his family and when he thinks about it he dismisses it..he has to be the role model and stable person, he figures he is a good farm boy not a wild promiscuous partier so of course he could NOT be gay. That would have finally made him interesting and gave him a purpose.. I always kept an eye on things in Oakdale...I just didnt watch it daily like I did from like 1980 on to when Marland really got morose and his characters boring. What...91...maybe? At that time GL finally grounded itself from being the Reva Show and it had family, business, mysteries, and characters who had fun and good characters who actually were interesting and were allowed to be bitchy and snarky about other good characters. Everyone in Oakdale was sooooooo, serious and earnest all the time. I actually started watching full time with..dont hate me..Sheffer, but after that first year it started to stink.

Yes, first Tad was younger and hotter.. I could see Iva and Betsy falling for him. Larry Pine was like..somone's gross dad..kinda skeevy. Now if they were trying to go for Iva having daddy issues...(which I could believe...) Yes, I always thought Seth was gay..especially since he was Marland's stand him for himself. The other gay one was Caleb.. God. watching Betsy and Seth was like watching paint dry, but not as bad as Seth and that "vixen" Frannie with a wig and glasses, I mean Sabrina. I qut watching ATWT and went to GL as ALL of Marland's good people..outside of the vets..were as dull as hell.

I liked her MUCH better then mentally challenged Betsy played by Ryan. It was weird that Betsy gained a few feet and a brain and all that was supposedly done was plastic surgery. And YES to end of flare nostrils Steve...though I think years later his return as an arrogant pr*ck villain would have been great...maybe a Evil Steve instead of Evil Craig during Sheffer.

That movie was awful!!! They should have had CLC on the real show as vilainess, or someone who thought she was Wondy. Yes, Lyle was duller then dull can be...They cut his time on the show to just making phone calls to Diana...and who can blame them? I see your pic of Steve and Jaime....its funny, WW aged much better then Bionic Woman....maybe its the clothes...Diana's fashion choices were classics and Jaime always looks like she is going to a macrame class. And Steve Austin was smoking hot until the last season where he got a porn stash and started looking cheesy..okay, I tried to get it back to ATWT.

"The part of Steve Trevor is now being played by Ted Shackelford or Dack Rambo..or really anyone but Lyle Waggoner!" I love the clip above...I notice that in the shot you can clearly see the crew, or some people in the park beyond the trees...one of the many times Diana picks to most open places to do her turn..and yet, no one sees. On to ATWT ..the guy who played Stefano on Days died and they did a tribute yesterday and I havent watched Days in years but they seem to still have a lot of vets...it made me nostalgic...anyone know how our old vets are doing?

The actor who played Stefano on Days died in December, and yesterday they had a tribute for him, by having old footage of the actor in character in jail, while his various victims over the years come and confront him. At the end, after everyone is gathered and talking about what happens next, we see that he escaped his cell, as per usual (I would preferred they also have him leave a note per Hannibal Lecture "I have no intention of returning to call on all of you good people again, I trust you will do me the same honor..I am on to new horizons...as the Phoenix Always Rises!!!") It was a nice tribute...do you think that GL could have done something like that with Roger/Zaz. a last confrontation with Holly, Blake, Ed, Alex and Alan? Then of course Roger has again escaped. A what could have been if PG and MADD that freaking old cow, had some class and cared.

Hated LA so wrong for WW..and have a Cagney and Lacey boss and that kid who was trying to mimic Different Strokes was just ...desperate..(though the episode does have one of my favorite scenes, where the villains "guard lion" he releases to kill her is instead turned in a domesticated kitten by her animal empathy, and she tells him instead to watch the bad guys she got so far, and when she comes back..."The two of us are going to have a discussion on your behavior!" and Carter, doing this all in spangly hot pants number, makes it all seem natural. To bring it all back to soaps, Carter had tons more of chemistry with Ted Shackelford in his episodes then she ever did with LW..plus TS looked like the comics Steve and he was sexy as hell back then. Last post ATWTs on this....I swear!

Amazing as the Incredible Hulk is so boring and morose..it comes on Saturday nights on ME TV right before WW...(yes, I lead a very edgy life..we go out to pub and get hopped up and then come home to make dinner and watch WW!) LW..while quite the DILF was too old to play Steve, both in WW2 and especially in the 70's....(Steve's kid would have to be in his 30s and LW was in his mid 40s) and he was dull as dull can be..but I felt he had good "friend, boss" chemistry with Carter when they wisely took out the love angle in the 70s.. I did read she wanted his role lessened as she felt he brings down the energy..(he does) but Steve should always be there. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of the switch to the 70s and bring in a younger more energetic guy to play Steve Jr but I guess he had a contract. Plus if you watch the last episode when they tried to save the show by moving her to LA with a fat grumpy boss (by that time they essentially gave up..Diana would go around with no glasses and WW hair and no one even mentioned it...) it was time to say goodbye. I dont know why the played the show so much like the Bionic Woman, she needed her enemies from the comics, like the Cheetah to spice things up. No matter how bad the show,they always got WW and Diana Prince right...no one ever treated her like a joke (ala Batman) or as a "Jiggly Babe," even the villains. Okay, sorry back to ATWT.