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I thought Joe Barbara was handsome too, but I hated Joe Carlino. I just found him to be utterly repulsive with how he used to command Paulina around like she was a dog. I remember a scene in May of '99 during the "Who killed Grant" arc where Paulina was about to confess to murdering Grant to Toni when Joe told Paulina to "shut up!" Just his tone and use of words was so disgusting. I didn't mind Joe early on as he was a bit flawed. For instance, him lying about Jake being alive to prevent Paulina from going back to him. Again, he was a least flawed. I just hated how year after year since his debut in '95 how he became more and more righteous forgetting that he was once a big a** liar too. I feel like he was an early prototype on how soaps would write police officers on soaps for years to come. Jack (ATWT), John (OLTL), Mallet (GL), Rafe (DAYS), etc. would all be self-righteous pigs that looked their noses down on any and everyone that didn't live how they wanted.

RHOA: This was clearly the filler episode of the 4 part reunion, but it had its strong and insightful moments. One moment that struck a cord with me was how the women showed compassion for Sheree's abuse, which would not've came to light had she not faked this attempted reunion with Bob, but showed none to Kenya. Abuse is abuse. Either pity both or pity neither. Both women were using Bob & Matt, who are both scum, for stories. It just weirded me out how these women felt pity for only Sheree. Just shows how inconsistent this group can be. Other than that, the rest of the reunion was pretty boring. It was hilarious though when Kenya finally called Phaedra out about her rehearsed, tired reads. I've never thought that Phaedra was a read queen. Nene? Hell yes. Claudia? Hell yes. Sheree? At times, yes. Kenya? At times, yes. Marlo? At times, yes. Phaedra? Nope. At least not in recent seasons. The last time I'd give Phaedra props for reading was back in s5 when she & Kenya were hilariously taking shots at each other at the reunion. Ever since then, nope. Here's two sneak peeks from next week: Give Shamea a peach if she's gonna keep coming for Phelony! RHOP: God, Gizelle is a hater. Let it go, sis. Monique is young, pretty, and has a man with money; however, if Gizelle knew the hell that Monique is getting from her mother-in-law, she'd see her life isn't so glamorous. Ashley is messy as hell. Bringing up seeing Eddie was not that serious. Ashley was acting like she saw Jesus. Also, is Dr. Jeff on Bravo's payroll now? Where will he land next? New Jersey? New York? Beverly Hills?

I know. I was just kidding.

I hope not. Poor Nancy wouldn't deserve it like Paulina didn't. No that wouldn't. Joe Carlino was a chauvinistic pig and a vortex of suck.

I so beg to differ.

No!! Victoria does not deserve to be hitched to a Dingle.

Simply to stick it to Leanne, who sided with Tanya last year that Stacey does act uppity one second and then cool the next second. It's all about alliances with Stacey & Dawn. I'm beginning to see that they are very much alike except Stacey actually has money while Dawn is a poser. I'm beginning to see too that Seema is another fake b-tch too. Remember, she couldn't stand Dawn the past 2 season too, but now she enjoys her. Odd how I loved Stacey & Seema their first season, and couldn't stand Leanne the first 4 seasons. Now I am growing to enjoy Leanne while finding Seema & Stacey unbearable. I never bought Tamra/Eddie. I always knew that she was secretly whoring around while acting as his beard. Look, I can typically spot my gay brethren, and Eddie gives me those vibes. Hell most of the Twitter audience has been assuming Eddie has been gay for years. I think Vicki has been on the money, and she possibly is the one leaking things. I don't blame her if all of this is true. Tamra had no problem with tossing her to the wolves the past 4-5 seasons when it came to Brooks. Now the chickens have come home to roost for Tamra.

Yup. It was his introduction to the show. It was offscreen as @slick jones pointed out. Apparently, they were high school sweethearts.

I totally agree with all of this. Buzz was a vortex of suck and anyone paired with him didn't bode well in the end. It didn't make sense to me why Jenna didn't get help from the Chamberlains (mostly Vanessa) when it came to Jeffery. Seeing as Vanessa had not too long ago fought off Roger from getting Peter, she could've easily helped Jenna do the same. Or she could've helped Jenna go into hiding again until it was safe for her to return. I just think that killing Jenna off was pure stupidity. At times, I wish that they would've killed Buzz's ass off in that car crash. Poor Fiona Hutchinson. She did not have the best of luck when it came to her characters.

True. Plus a lot of Nancy & Paulina's history intertwined. Both ladies dated Jake. Both ladies dated Joe. Both women had tense relations with Vicky. Judi Evans had stellar chemistry with Vicky Wyndham and Constance Ford. It could've worked. The stories they gave Paulina in the 90s could've easily went to Nancy with Judi Evans playing her.

Why can't soap promos be this good nowadays? Promos like that would attract me as a new viewer to the shows despite how cheesy they are.

Basically. It's what I said earlier. Had Jenna just told the truth from the start and fought Jeffery off with Buzz, the Coopers, and even Vanessa's (who was like a surrogate sister) help, it wouldn't've ended badly, but that's Jenna for you. She did have poor taste in men.

@Mitch, Jeffery overheard Holly reveal that he was the father of Rocky. That caused Jeffery to go confront Jenna, which led to their death in the car.

This is what happens to idiots who generationally vote against their own self interests.

My 2 eyes need to see Patty die so that if they dare try and undo it, fans can call them on their sh-t. Paul can find the letter after that, but (again) my 2 eyes need to see Patty breathe her last breath.

I'd be all for her committing suicide or dying of some ailment. A fire is too tempting for these writer reverse it and try to do the story that Bill Bell did all them years ago w/ Kay's cellmate dying and people believed it to be her. Nope. I need to see Patty succumb to whatever as morbid as it sound. Also, I need her organs to donated immediately. No way would I want any loose ends b/c they'd be tempted to rewrite/undo it.

She's a mustache twirler now. She needs to die if this show wants to restore any sort of realism to this show. If I had my way, I'd add Victor to the list too.

I'd just prefer they kill Patty off. There's just too much detriment surrounding that character; she needs to be retired.

Well they can recast Daz at this point if they don't wanna bring Luke back. I'm hoping Leyla will be involved the pregnancy arc too, but not if they have her going mad over it. I love Leyla and Moira. I don't need them destroyed b/c of their ties to Pete. Maybe David needs friends. There has been that void of friendship since Nikhil left. Maybe they need to build a friendship between him and Jai. It would make sense.