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HALLELUJAH! YES! YES! YES! Tamra is the most deserved axing to ever come to a Housewife. She hasn't had a storyline for years and has always been, in my opinion, a loathsome bitch that I just didn't want to watch at all. Now, it's time to axe Gina.

They could have been something...but so messy. I sort of enjoy Brett because he's catty...but those Tweets...

The SAG Memoriam paid tribute to Y&R's Kristoff St. John (with a wonderfully chosen clip), DALLAS' Ken Kercheval, 902010's Luke Perry, and DYNASTY's Diahann Carroll (looking her luminous best):

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think Brown Wind is a total dud and I didn't enjoy watching her at all...but Andy has made it clear she's definitely coming back. Emily, on the other hand, I like because there's a lot to her that we haven't seen and more layers to her. Case in point: the comment about dating the drug dealer with the jet skis.

If that's what Bravo is going to do they're sealing the fate of this show. Gina was definitely a dud and her dark conflicts with her ex-husband bring down the overall tone of the show, so she definitely needs to go. However, leaving Tamra there is a fatal error. If they want to keep the bulk of the cast, then they should keep Shannon, Kelly, Emily and Brown Wind...Kelly v Shannon brings the conflict, but the overall vibe isn't toxic.

OC That rumour has to be about Vicki and I agree that Bravo wants to fire her but doesn't want to be seen firing her. Bravo is missing the point if they don't fire Tamra. They need to really move on from this cast or wrap up this franchise. NJ Teresa is the dumbest woman on television. Her stupidity knows no bounds. ATL Midseason trailer looks good. Love the voiceover cameo from Wendy Williams.

No...from everything Lea Black has said in the intervening years, Miami got really dark/scary/intense behind the scenes. I think they need to focus on the franchises they have now, fix the ones they can, and let the RH brand rest a little bit - the saturation is intense and they've burned through cities. The Salt Lake City one sounds like it is scraping the barrel.

NJ: Teresa is the dumbest woman on television. Like if you told me she'd had a lobotomy at some point I'd believe it. She cannot accept that she is a convicted criminal. Her brother speaks such sense: this isn't judgment, these are facts. DALLAS: Fire 'em all. All of them. End the show. Move on. Kameron is as complicit at the rest - Brandi and Stephanie let that little tidbit slip about production saying they were going to use it by the time Kameron decided to expose Leanne.

Amazing!

I loved this week's ATL...Nene is over though. I wonder if she knows it?

I see the point of the article, to an extent, but the Vanderpump cast has brought it time and again and I think we're in for a good season.

Team Marge - Danielle invaded her space, chest bumped her and was screaming at her. She dumped water on her face to face - not like Danielle the coward pulling the back of her head when her back was turned.

If Bravo wants OC to improve, they must fire Tamra. She is the source of the rot on this show and if they don't see it they are blind to their own problems. The thing about 'pot-stirring' is that it's all contrived and none of it is genuine. None of it. Zero. And that's why OC, like BH, is faltering. Compare those two awful franchises, which have been awful for years, with RHONJ, RHOATL, RHOP and RHONY. Those shows are all comparably light hearted and the 'drama' that unfolds is comparably organic. On OC, it's clear Tamra views the show as her job (like Rinna does on BH) and self produces every single action. It's as fake as it comes and it's tiresome to watch.

I was sad to hear that Caroline and Cem had split up...I wonder what she's going to do since he's still working in Dubai. I think they should continue LoL...I wouldn't want to see Caroline tarnished by the crap of RHOBH.

What is Nene thinking? She is making herself irrelevant.

Me too - she has always seemed like the loveliest woman, so I'm glad to see her looking happy and surrounded by friends.

In RHOP news the criminal cases against Monique and Candiace have both been dismissed by the prosecutor's office. Monique's lawyer shaded Candiace something fierce while Candiace's lawyer was a bit more laissez faire about the whole mess: https://people.com/tv/rhop-monique-samuels-candiace-dillard-assault-charges-dismissed/

Linda Dano threw a holiday party earlier this month...

If Vicki hadn't come to the reunion, I would say she was easily the most important cast member this season - there were no stories without her! However, she humiliated herself at the reunion and she wreaked of desperation. It was punishing to watch her fall so hard and so far.

I haven't always dislike Vicki - much as she was a total pain in the ass, I found her compelling to watch because she often let it all hang out. The scene where she found out her mother died is still one of the saddest moments I've ever seen on TV. However, this reunion reflected terribly on her and I can only imagine what the producers think/feel about her. Some might sympathize with her given that she's being sidelined for younger women and it's somewhat obvious that Vicki has aged out of the show, becoming quite the prude, but she seems like a terror behind the scenes.

I think we just witnessed Vicki's memoriam. How does she possibly come back to RHOC after that?

They were talking sh*t about each other at BravoCon which occurred after the reunion filmed.

Kenya is awful and it seems she met her match with Marc. He appears to absolutely despise her. I loved seeing Cynthia's proposal. And again, Nene was wholly irrelevant. Give Marlo a peach, felony convictions and all. OC Reunion Part 2: it was nice to see Vicki and Kelly hug in the hallway. From what happened at BravoCon, it didn't last. Word on the street, according to the loathsome TT, Twitter, Instagram, etc, is that OC is going to be facing a heavy recasting. It needs it. If they don't fire Tamra, though, it will all be for nought.

I love that moment so very much. Lizzie will go down in Housewives legend for that moment alone. She just told the truth and Tamra couldn't handle it. OC The finale was 'meh' to me...but I hear that guitar music that closes out the show and all feels right in the world. The problem I have with the show is that half the cast is producing their entire storyline and nothing is authentic. The reunion Part 1 was so ugly for Vicki. Her ego and behaviour was atrocious and I feel like this may be the end for her. I am of mixed minds about that. On the one hand, Vicki has been in our lives for nearly 15 years - so her exit would be big. On the other hand, the show is a toxic mess. Vicki and Tamra and Gina should all be dumped. Tamra has zero storyline and that's been the case for years - and she's a loathsome awful woman who isn't enjoyable to watch at all. They may want to dump Kelly too because she's very polarizing, although I do enjoy watching her. Shannon is a mess but she's transparent so makes for compelling TV and doesn't feel as produced as the others. Emily has flickers of being interesting (the passing comment about dating a drug dealer with a boat and a lot of jet skis, plus she's demolished Vicki on Twitter). ATL I'm loving this season. I couldn't stand watching Dennis. He is such a Mr. Potato Head bastard. Nene should be very concerned because she is not needed anymore and has brought very little to this season. Eva brings nothing to the show. Loving the Cynthia/Mike scenes - he is totally into her and they seem a great match. Kandi's little Ace is SO cute: the scene where they said grace was so adorable. Kenya crying behind her purse had me rolling my eyes. NJ The Easter dinner scene. Whew. That was heavy. Teresa is so blindingly dumb I can't handle watching her too much because I think my IQ suffers. Her brother, Joe Gorga, is so emotionally tuned in and he's really looking out for his nieces. His quietly getting upset while talking to Joe Giudice in ICE spoke volumes. He is quietly devastated for his sister and is also trying to be the voice of reason about the likelihood of Joe Giudice being released and the money they are wasting. DALLAS The finale was chilling. I do not see how Leanne comes back from that - the whole cast turned on her and she dug herself into a massive, gaping, chasm without breaking a sweat. This show also needs to be recast (aside from Stephanie and, ironically, Kameron)