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Oh HELL to the NAW. We already have enough people here ready to drop twenny-five thou-ZIND on a pair of ugly-ass sunglasses.

Well, this is now a hot ass mess and Bravo have done what they did with Russell's family who were threatening to sue -- put everything out there with the exception of a few little bits, and now it is in the court of public opinion. Adrienne looks ridiculous suing over something relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, especially now that she and Brandi have come to terms and Paul is now on Brandi's side. Why the big deal? Unless her family didn't know and are extremely Christian (I believe the Maloofs are of Lebanese and Maronite descent) but the Lebanese Christians I know are very liberal and open about something like surrogacy. Perhaps she just wanted to protect her kids which is fair enough, but by making such a fuss, she has turned the attention onto her and her family even more. I cannot help but feel that in getting caught up with her jealousy of Lisa and wanting to make her look bad, she has made a number of disastrous decisions which do not impact Lisa at all but instead boomerang right back on her. I hope she has somebody counselling her (legally) in the right way and telling her that it might be best to just cut her losses and rebuild herself. Her kids need her more than ever now and to waste time pursuing a castmate just makes her look like her priorities are all wrong. Brandi could just apologize for having mentioned it during filming because how would she know if Adrienne used a surrogate or not? Then they could just leave it at that. Not to mention that last season, Adrienne and Paul were the ones who brought Russell's actions into the spotlight, especially his threats towards Camille, arguing that "friends do not sue friends." Now might be a good time to take her own advice. By threatening to sue, they, like Russell, look like they have something to hide.

I thought I was the only one who was stunned and shocked by yesterday's RHoBH. First of all, am I right in guessing that the big bleeped-out secret is that Adrienne had a surrogate carry her kids, right? So what's the big deal? So did Camille! Or are Adrienne and Paul making a big-ass fuss because of somethiing Brandi said that actually did slip through -- that A and P were actively coercing Brandi to smear Lisa over Twitter? And they were embarrassed about getting found out? I mean, I have to wonder why Kyle is suddenly so supportive of Adrienne -- unless Adrienne already told her that she's got her back if Kyle has her's. I thought Paul came across VERY badly at Mauricio's event. Not just because it was full of Mauricio's business clients (which is bad enough) but because Adrienne is now suing for full custody and indicating that Paul's violence towards her and the children is the reason why. I wasn't sure I believed it when the suit first made it to press, now I have to wonder. I still think the Nasri-Maloofs brought this upon themselves though in their haste to besmirch the reutation of some former friends and neighbors. Are they going to be bleeping this [!@#$%^&*] all through the season? Because that's going to suck.

OMG, Elsa freezing her ass off in Marysol's apartment, even in a fur coat. The women cackling over Rodrigo's cheating with somebody "so much younger and prettier than Karent" was pretty rank. I will forever love Lisa for, once she found out about it, wanting to take Karent and tell her alone. Adriana should never have showed up in Bimini. It was obvious from the way she "forgot" her passport she couldn't be bothered.

Yolanda's blog is amazing and right-on. This woman is BOSS!

I loved all the mothers meeting up! Joanna's mother seems especially loving towards her daughter. Next week looks like it is going to be great. I kinda feel sorry for Karent; Rodrigo is obviously a total sleaze. LOL, Cheap. I hope she pulls his teeth out. Adriana as dancing Carioca = awesome.

I rarely, if ever, get bored with RHoBH (the exception? Pandora's wedding preparations and the wedding itself. I like P and love Lisa but all that planning bored me rigid) and so even when it is not a big "FIGHT" episode there is always something to entertain me. Lisa's zingers, Brandi putting her foot in it, the sparkly clothes, the property porn, Taylor's gigantic lips. Ojai was a case in point this week. Adrienne is the pettiest little bitch ever. You could tell by her body language that she was only apologizing to Lisa for the cameras -- and indeed on the VT she is huffing and puffing about not getting an apology from Lisa. What the hell for? -- and then when they get to Ojai she is cawing about Lisa having to share a room. Like it's some kind of divine punishment? I would imagine Lisa and Brandi's room is probably the funnest room in the house. I can't even with two-faced Kyle.

Cheap that gif of Kim Richards really highlights how wonderfully out of step she is with the world in which she inhabits. Unfortunately, the fact that she doesn't ever quite "fit in" makes her, quite clearly, deeply unhappy. That giant bowl of chicken salad (which nobody even touched -- probably because she'd been fondling it all afternoon) was hilarious and yet so sad at the same time. She cannot quite keep up a conversation with anybody and social events seem to terrify her. This is probably why she drinks/abuses substances -- to cover the shyness and feelings of inadequacy. Speaking of inadequate, did anybody notice (a) TayShanna's hobo silver leggings of slutdom and ( b ) her face go bright green with jealousy when she entered Yolanda's mansion? And how she bragged that she knew David Foster because one of his exes is her BFF. And he totally greets her like he's never laid eyes on her before? Also Paul saying "If Lisa goes to kiss me, I'm not going to accept it" in the car. Luckily for him, she totally ignored him.

Taylor was very rude about the music. The singers and trumpeteer had obviously been comandeered as musical entertainment for the guests' benefit and I was shocked at Taylor's manners -- for a con artist targetting wealthy BH residents, TayShanna sure has no clue how to conduct herself at social gatherings. You could see that after a while, once David and his singers got warmed up, other people began singing and dancing and contributing to the party. TayShanna is so desperate to stay viable on this show. Yolanda and her flower garden are just amazing. That house is the stuff dreams are made of. Adrienne and Paul are so gross, I can't even. Lisa shouldn't apologize (for what?) to those losers. I cannot wait to see her spear that troll at dinner. Kyle needs to get over her damn self. Brandi may have ejected too much collagen in her face but I still love her.

LOL, Cheap! I loved Elsa in that episode. The guy she practically considers a surrogate son yells at her in front of everybody so that he can have his 5 minutes of D-list fame on this show -- but does it bother her? Not one bit. She waltzes out of there cool as you like, muttering about how she didn't want french fries anyway. I love this woman and her attitude. It's too bad Marysol is such a spineless amoeba, she could do with her Mama's backbone. That Thomas Kramer guy and Elaine/James are such famewhores, they are so desperate to appear on this reality show. I *loved* transgender socialite Lauren, though. She needs to be on again. Next week some of the mamas show up -- including Joanna's Polish mom and a Russian lady -- is that Lisa's mother? I didn't even know Lisa was Russian. RHoBH: I was OK with it being a "slow" episode -- shows need time to build up to big dramatic events and I can't deal with catfights and visciousness every single episode (see RHoNJ). I don't get why everybody is SO keen to get Lisa to "get over" what Adrienne did, though. As far as I can see, she has. She's over it, and over Adrienne. When Kyle decided to butt in and broker a peace, Lisa cut her off with "Why are you doing this? What's it to you? It's none of your business." It's not even about Radar and who sold what story to whom at this point. If Lisa doesn't want to see Adrienne, it's because she was hurt that Adrienne and two others turned on her and tried to smear her at Reunion. Now she's done and doesn't want anything more to do with her. When she told Kyle to butt out, it was clear she was telling her "I haven't forgotten the role you played then either." Had to LMAO at Adrienne and Paul being all "When you are friends with somebody, you just need to get over it." O RLY, Adrienne? Like you got over Pandora having her hen night elsewhere? Like you got over the "Maloof hoof"? I have a feeling we may see the "real" Adrienne come out when we see her turn against her soon-to-be ex-husband. Kyle thinks she is the funniest, wittiest woman on earth. It's actually kind of sad that the only reason most viewers tolerate her is when she trots out Portia (I love her!) or Mauricio. Camille.

Hurrah for Miami!! I am its newest fan.

ATL Kim is coming across... not great this season. Like I never noticed just how shady and economical with the truth Kim could be until I rewatched Season 1 and at Reunion she was all "Don't bully me Nene!I wear a wig because of cancer" and then when pressed on the issue, she says "Oh, it turned out not to be cancer. Phew." I don't know why after all this time she just cannot be civil and a little bit gracious with Nene, especially when Nene asked her to stay especially. Kenya taking over the mic at Cynthia's party? Sit down, Miss USA! Is nobody talking about Miami? Because I thought that was a great episode. I am really starting to feel for Joanna and Karent while Adriana, Marisol and the others really look like Mean Girls. And I like Alexia but she is obviously Queen Bee, and after inviting Karent and promising her no aggressivity, she and Adriana are dissing Karent and Joanna when they are in the same room and right to their faces. Next week: the crazy German guy!

Oh, I love Lisa! Despite having had arguably the most plastic surgery outside of Mama Elsa, this woman is genuinely wonderful. Who else would take in Joanna's work-shy scrounger of a sister? A girl's girl like Lisa, that's who. And I love her and the adoring housekeeper Daisy who obviously thinks Lisa is a telenovela character come to life. The one thing that REALLY won me over about Lisa is how upfront she was about Lea. She admires Lea, she wants to learn from her, she is inspired by her. Even though Lisa is no fool and must know that Lea openly disdains her, she is honest in saying what so many women wouldn't say when it comes to frenemies. As for Lea -- I like her at home, with her husband, her child, and her puppy (those tears were real, y'all). I like that she spreads a little drama and bitchiness because it creates story but at the same time -- bringing Joe Francis to the party when she prob knew his connection to the Krapkas was a malicious step too far. IRL I wouldn't trust her further than I could throw her. She is a total fake in social situations, but a fake I can live with on this show. I admire your spirited defense of Adrienne. Listen, I am a superfan of Lisa but I am not blind to her flaws -- I don't think ANY of these RHs are perfect. I donlt watch for that. I watch for entertainment, and the producers manipulate for entertainment. If Adrienne wasn't invited to Lisa's party, it is because whoever is head-writing RHoBH decreed it so. Lisa prob went along with it because she was hurt by Adrienne's slanderous claims. These two women were friends and neighbors at one time -- from S1 to S2, Adrienne turned on Lisa little by little and went out of her way to make her look bad. I'm sorry but she did. As for The Palms fiasco, personally I think Lisa should have done BOTH The Palms and Mohammed's Planet Hollywood bash for Pandora as they were both gifts from friends. However, I do not think Lisa could and should have dumped Mohammed in favor of Adrienne's offer. It is clear that Mohammed is a close family friend. As for sitting down with Adrienne and clearing the air, yes, I think Lisa would have done this. But after the hatred and jealousy that Adrienne exhibited to Lisa at Reunion, the set-up she orchestrated -- sometimes when you see toxic, you want to run away from it, like "I don't need that in my life." I felt like Adrienne was showing her true colors for the first time at Reunion. SUCH jealousy! I wouldn't blame Lisa if she felt that way, too, and wanted nothing more to do with her. As for Kyle and Taylor, I think Lisa should have shown those two bitches the finger, too. They have set her up as the enemy more than once when it suited their Poor Me agenda. Hurrah! A Camille fan. We can argue forever about whether Camille was relevant in S2 because she "only had one good scene." The fact is, she is relevant to me because I like her a lot. End of.

Finally caught up with my one true wuv RHoBH lol. I am so happy it is back and am perfectly fine with it being a foundation episode for S3. I can busy myself with drinking in the houses, the clothes, the glamour and the glitz leap off the screen and look just that much sparklier than the other RH franchises. Liking Yolanda already, with that mix of impossibly stunning glamazon and practical, direct Dutchwoman. Of course she's a friend of Lisa's. Lisa is super fabulous as always. This woman can do no wrong (except when she pairs a pink shirt with a black skirt. NEVER pastels + black, Lisa!), and I love her friendship with Brandi. Kyle really thinks she is the funniest person in Los Angeles. Portia inviting the ladies to her birfday pahty was cute, though. "Hello dahling!" Kim. Eh. Kathy Hilton OTOH needs to be on the show. You know, much as I dislike that wannabe TayShanna, I see why this grifter need to be on the show. Because she is a fake and a grifter and always on the point of being exposed as such. Speaking of fake, I can't with Adrienne. What an awful, cold, malicious woman. And telling Taylor that Lisa needs to get past her pettiness? How petty was it accusing her of selling stories to Radar or TMZ or wherever with no proof? Can't wait for Camille later this season!

Did you catch last season's Reunion episodes? Adrienne, Kyle and Taylor threw Lisa under the bus and attempted to smear her reputation on TV (they failed though). The look of hurt in her eyes when she confronted Kyle about what they did, the look of hurt she had throughout all three Reunion episodes was enough for me (if I wasn't before) to be Team Lisa. When Brandi came into Reunion, she was the only one to support Lisa after all her supposed BFFs had knifed her in the back. That, and the Hawaii trip, solidified the Brandi-Lisa friendship, I think. You could tell in Hawaii that they both "got" each other and have a similar sense of humor. I like their friendship! 1000% AGREE about Camille. She made Season 1, and I loved her last season as well, whether a PR firm is involved in her redemption or not. Camille is awesome and I wish she was still a regular. When she called out TayShanna about Russell, it was a true thing of beauty -- exposing Taylor's hypocrisy and Russell's abuse in one fell swoop. This around the time when Taylor's "best friend" Kyle was still doing VTs saying she didn't know if Russell actually beat up his wife. I haven't seen RHoBH yet. I am dying to, though.

Your post came at just the right time -- because I was struggling through episodes 3 and 4 and seriously considering whether to drop this franchise completely. Lisa's lingerie party WAS insane, though I am still utterly confused as to what exactly transpired and why things got out of hand. Was Joanna mad because Joe Francis may have been telling the truth? Was she mad because Marta slept with Joe while he was with her? Why did she stick her nose into a private conversation between Karent and Adriana? It was a hot-ass mess and, for once, I don't believe it was a scripted catfight at all. There have been some unexpected moments, namely the Romain-Joanna dinner after she found those texts/e-mails. I was ready for her to kick his ass out but he was clear and forthcoming in his defense of himself and I was almost relieved they didn't break-up -- very unusual for me as cheating is a deal-breaker for me! That entire relationship is imploding before our very eyes, though. IA that the rolling cast of supporting players give this show an added extra that the other franchises do not have. But Mama Elsa and Daisy the housekeeper apart, sometimes the amount of "extra" characters makes the show lack focus at times. Despite all the fights and yapping, nothing ever really progresses. Perhaps that comes later. I do think it is cool the way the have kept Alexa back in the thick of things even though she is not a regular HW this season.

I loved "Diamond's aren't a girl's best friend, FREEDOM is"! RHoNY had some great ones. I will always LOL when I think of Jill's "I run with a faaaaaaaaahbulous circle of people." LuAnn's "I never feel guilty about being privileged" is classic. As is Alex's "To a certain group of people in New York, status is everything." I **HATE** Sonja's "A little Sonja will spice up any party." Talk about blah. But these new RHoBH ones are the worst. Lisa's "Life in Beverly Hills is a game and I make the rules" was good enough to warrant a second season in the credits.

NeNe: "I have arriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiived. And the spotlight's on me, honey." So I am starting to watch Season 2 of Real Housewives of Miami after the high praise seen on these threads. I never saw Season 1 but I don't think that matters. After one and a half episodes: - It doesn't feel like a true RH show like NY, NJ or OC do... but close enough. It feels like RHoV, which makes sense -- like Vancouver, Miami is almost a foreign city, gateway to LatAm. I'm not hispanic but I grew up among a lot of hispanics/Latin Americans and so a lot of the attitudes/cultural references feel like "home" to me. Mama Elsa in particular reminds me of my best friend's mom. - The bling truly is BLING, all with a heavy coating of tacky. - I wish the show would let some of the parents speak Spanish if they want to when it is clear that they would rarely have a breakfast conversation with their daughter and her boyfriend en inglés. I like hearing Spanish and I don't mind reading a few subtitles. - Joanna Krapka is beautiful but also looks like a coke addict. - The men are pretty skeevy. Karent's Roman is getting all this ass, really? How? He's just a soap actor! Luis Miguel he ain't. - Is it Karent or Karen T? - Was Alexia previously part of the show? I wondered if she begged out of filming when her son got into his accident. I like what little I've seen of her. - Karent is the Tamra Barney of the show -- the [!@#$%^&*]-stirrer with the most insincere smile on earth. - Adriana I'm not really feeling. Lea is trying to hard to be Jill Zarin. - Lisa, Karent, Joanna and Ana are driving all and any story right now. - Just make Mama Elsa a full HW -- she is awesome and the real star.

And that, right there, is why I can never warm to Jill. Of COURSE she wants somebody like Heather gone. Can't have arguably the brightest, sanest and most relatable HW stealing Toxic Jill's thunder! She knows Heather would never put up with her BS. I loved Danielle and her girls of RHoNJ. I would definitely want her back.

If you're offering...

Sigh. I wish I could watch Toxic Jill on WWHL.

I am wondering if the Jill Zarin interview on WWHL might be a precursor to that. It won't be Alex, I think Andy C lost his rag with Simon long ago.

The RHoNY reunion was a welcome RELIEF after the NJ Reunion. Swear to God, I need a break from the NJ HW and they need a good long BREAK from TV, InTouch, USWeekly, Andersen, Wendy and anything approaching reality TV fame. They have destroyed their respective families and bankrupted themselves for the sake of appearing on a cable reality show. Re: NY, I love all 6 ladies to varying degrees. Even though Sonja was in the wrong re: what Heather was trying to do for her toaster oven (!), I will always love Sonja for letting it all hang out, whether it is defending her ex or talking about the death of her dog. Andy Cohen's reaction to Ramona and her shouting at him about her drinking was... interesting. In a lot of ways, this season of RHoNY feels like it ended too soon.

I think Andy has a small crush on Joey Gorga now. Elephant g-string As for all the other stuff... sigh. Caroline's final thoughts really surprised me. Is she extending the hand of friendship to Tre? Because she can't roll anything else. You know, even with all those cosmetic changes and wonky new nose and stroke-addled new lips, Kathy still has dissatisfaction permanently etched on her face.

^^ And it's not like our memories are faulty -- YouTube, Hulu etc all confirm what we have known for a long time! I feel moved by all your contributions to my post about Holly and Roger and GL. These were all very personal, sober and meaningful reflections on H & R that seem to mirror the depth and intensity of what I have seen in clips. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving me your assessment. I am so excited to have discovered an aspect of GL I previously knew little about. I am almost as breathless watching some of these episodes as perhaps some of you were when you first saw them screened. Having your input has allowed me to appreciate the show as a whole. I felt this way when I discovered AW via Ryan & Anne Heche's Vicky, and it opened up an entire world. The same is now true of GL -- like I discovered a whole new country which is so rich and lush. But as always with these things, it is bittersweet to see all this promise and mastery squandered because of -- let's face it -- greed, incompetence and (possibly) internal politics. It is crazy to me that true writers and lovers of the genre like Nancy Curlee, Sheri Anderson, Claire Labine (Love of Life and GH, I'm thinking) and the man who wrote EON almost all through its run are nowhere to be found in Daytime. Like they were so good at their job in certain instances that some kind of latent jealousy meant they were tossed aside for mediocrity. Because TIIC felt we, the viewers, didn't deserve any better. Re: Holly's return in 1990 -- I can see the difference between her in the 70s and 1980 and the later Holly, and I think it is organic. Holly took Chrissie to Switzerland, and she became more sophisticated and mature in some ways. She'd seen a little more of the world. She'd grown, evolved, she wasn't stuck in a 1980s mindset. I think I like her better as this Holly because of all the new edges, her wit, her newfound strength coupled with lingering vulnerabilites. She is so human. It is these kind of women on Daytime that were role models (for lack of a better word) for me. I wanted to be them when I grew up, minus the bouts of alcoholism or other terrible events that befell them. Khan/CarlD, I made an offhand reference to Reva in the 1980s which came out too b&w. I have been enjoying Big Reva in the full episodes of GL I have chanced upon, but what I like is that she is one of many strong characters woven into the fabric of the show. In later years I found that GL became a bit The Reva Show. KZ has not always been my cup of tea (she ate up SB and hastened its cancellation IMO) but there is no denying her commitment to her roles. Well, onward and upward in my belated viewing of classic GL!