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There is no one named "Rashad" or "Raheem" on this show.

I'd like to see Millie Jackson as Cookie's mother, because that would fun.

I'm in agreement that Naomi has done a good job with the material that she has been given. It's standard stuff, but a lot of models would really flub up even limited material like this.

That I did not see coming. Another killer kid on a soap this week, but unlike the one on Days, this kid did it on purpose.

Anika drugging Elle shows how far Anika is willing to go. Now that Lucious has cheated on her with Cookie, it will be interesting to see how she reacts. I think Anika might find out about Cookie's deal with the feds and make sure that the drug king pin finds out, too.

It's just the first season and we are only six episodes in, so there is plenty of time for Cookie to cultivate relationships with her sons.

Cookie has tried with Hakeem, but he pushed her away. There is the element of him being a competitor, but she did offer to come hear his music and he pushed away once again. There's not much else she can do.

Andre is going to be decent toward Cookie, because he is a schemer and isn't going to burn any bridges that could potentially be useful to him and his plans.

"THIS is an ass" rofl

Anika can't really go head to head with Cookie, so it looks like she's going to try and use Porsha to get at Cookie.

Jamal isn't all that bold and brave, it appears. He did exactly what Lucious wanted him to do and that was be pretentious.

I was glad Andre threatened Vernon for putting his hands on him.

Courtney Love was good, I enjoyed her character. Very representative of those artists that crack up later in the careers.

"You look a mess" made me collapse

The spoiler is that Jamal has a kid by Raven character.

Lucious would certainly love that.

Oh hell no! We don't do strays. This heifer is lying! That baby ain't my man's! Lordt! Let me go get my pistol. See these hoes trying to stake claim in my man and I ain't having it!

I'm guess your man pulled a Steven Carrington and got some Sammy Jo pregnant. lol.

Work it Taraji...work it!

Lucious has seen that. He will want to see it again. LOL

Is this Lucious' daughter?

And do we know who the actress is? Sounded like Keshia Knight Pulliam for a minute but the actress seems light than her from a distance

It's possible that Lucious had a child out there with someone else. Or it could end up being a sister.

Landon set Veronica up, which is why he didn't intervene with the questions. He instructed that reporter to ask Veronica questions.

About the interesting idea that Juliajms brought up about why Hakeem seems to talk differently from his older brothers:

I think that Andre and Jamal are old enough to remember when the family was not wealthy so perhaps education was considered more important for the kids back then. Also, Cookie went to prison when Hakeem was an infant. Perhaps she was the one who insisted on the education and since she wasn't around...and perhaps Lucious didn't really think it was necessary for Hakeem, knowing he had already built a fortune and that Hakeem would be a rapper? JMO

Maybe it's like the Hilton Sisters. They knew their fortunes were already made so they didn't really continue on with their education after secondary school. You'd be surprised at what a short amount of formal education they have. During the recession, I've even heard people claim that college is overrated. Not everyone prizes a formal education.

I agree with this. Hakeem didn't grow up around Cookie's influence and the way she hit him for disrespecting her, I'd say that she was more focused on them having values and goals. Lucious is the prototype for the parent that believes that providing monetarily is all a parent needs to do.

I'm fine with the pacing, smaller elements that make up part of the overall story are moving along quickly and there isn't a need to dwell on much. The stories that need to be paced slower, like Bunkie's shooting and Cookie's federal testimony, as well as the overall rivalry between the brothers, are being paced accordingly.

Andre quickly earned his scheming crown in this episode. He didn't want anyone to get hurt, but he was willing to take a risk for his own benefit.

I had to laugh at Hakeem's crew being all amazed by the power of green screens, which is not really all that impressive in this era.

If Cookie hadn't realized that she made a mistake about the rose, I think her and Lucious might have got it on. I can't wait until next week when Cookie's calls out Lucious for sending her a rose after giving Anika a ring.

Yeah!! & when he come out with his music he's still going to get that check from his father. If he want to be real independent, he should have sign with another label.

A valid point. He needs to drop Empire and find another label if he wants to be cut off from his father.

That was the best episode of the season, so much going on.

Jamal has annoyed me because he talks big, but it is refusing to put in the work. He has one parent that is completely in his corner, but he's being stubborn about working with Cookie to get his career on track. And giving the money back was an eye rolling moment, too. At least Lucious was willing to pay him for his work.

LOL at Timbaland stealing his own music for Tiana and Hakeem's song.

Andrew Lloyd Webber's old trick.

Anika was trying to be hard, but she does not have it and Cookie aptly called her a bougie debutante. Anika would have not seen the drive-by coming had she gone by herself, which is why Lucious wanted to go along.

Jamal doesn't want to take money from his father, but at the same time, he doesn't want to do any work. He's plucking my nerves.

Andre continues to be the most crafty son.

I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that Hakeem is going to want Cookie's help at some point, because I think Camilla is going to be trouble for him and Cookie will have to come to the rescue somehow.

"I can't make you love your mother, but you will respect her." I love that line.

Apparently Denzel has been invited to join Empire. If he accepts, I wonder who he'll play...

Please, no. Him and his over-enunciation passed off as acting should stay far away. He's horrible.

Andre reminds me of a friend of mine with bipolar who went off her meds. Sordid stuff.

Loved Cookie's prayer. There is nothing like a good shady prayer to put someone in their place, lol.

Puma clearly is enamored with Cookie, and she likes him, but I get the feeling that Lucious is probably number one with her.

I get that Jamal is sick of his father's crap, but leaving a comfy loft is too much, rofl. I think Lucious' animosity towards Jamal does have a lot to do with Jamal being an artist, perhaps a better one than Lucious.

Veronica is unhinged. David should have gone all the way with Maggie, it would have served Veronica right.

Jeffrey kissing Benny was so funny.

Hanna is trying to be proper, but seems to want to get her groove on.

Wyatt and Celine had an interesting scene. I like how he called her out about being so angry over finding out about Jim and Candace.

Candace is really sticking it to Jim and she did a good job reading Veronica.

I don't know why you all keep arguing with ol' Alpha Beta. He's so old and late and tired.