P.J.

From what I've been able to revisit, I think Vanessa did need to be anchored to another family. I love Henry and Vanessa's relationship, but a grown woman can't run around town being besties with her "Daddy" indefinitely They kind of threw her at everyone when she started. If it was in pants and moved, Vanessa batted her eyes at it. Good grief, she even dated ED. (and not one of the cute Eds, Mart Hulswit's Ed, bless him.) Which they seem to have forgotten by the end of the 80's. I don't blame Billy for the shift in Vanessa, I blame Reva. Reva took over the "outrageous vixen" role the minute she stepped into town. And then I blame Matt. Vanessa caught "brain MIA disease" from him.

I'm sure part of it is that there are huge gaps in what I can find online (and both Clarke and Kincaid took breaks from the show more than I remembered), but DAMN. Vanessa tells him she's pregnant, and Billy's barely listening to her because he's suddenly obsessed with getting Reva out of the family (she's just married HB.) DAMN DAMN DAMN Pam Long and her obsession with Reva's magic vajayjay. Now I'm watching 89-90, and Billy's convinced he was still in love with Reva. JFC. And no one except Josh ever gets to read Reva for filth. SMH. Man, I thought ATWT's Jack and Carly had it rough. Vanessa put up with a lot of BS from Billy, that's for sure.

Nope. And I remember really liking VW in the role. I remember she got some sitcom that tanked, and had a couple of appearances on HIMYM.

Brandy was first brought on in 2001. She was paid by Nick Scudder to sleep with Adam and break up Adam and Abigail. She then just kind of hung around town. In April 2002, Craig pays her to start a diversion to let James escape the hospital, in exchange for information on Carly's whereabouts (while she was kidnapped in the Spa story). Paul and Bonnie were trying to get dirt on Marshall to get him to back out of the DA race against Jessica. Spoiler:

I love Billy and Vanessa, but they are always miserable. Or at least the clips I manage to catch.

Since Soapsuds already brought it up---Kelley Hensley in pretty much any "dramatic" moment. It was the worst acted rape story I've witnessed. I remember laughing as Emily ran through Susan's house, to wash herself in the kitchen sink. Accompanied by her incessant "hmmmmn, hmmmn, hmmmmm" and snot crying. See also any time Emily cracked up. Brooke Logan wandering the beach with her doll "children". Sigh---KKL is a trooper, but master thespian she ain't. There's a reason she's only gotten (I think) one emmy nod in all the years she's been on B&B. Ronn Moss. PERIOD.

Crossovers are a great idea in theory (and I'm talking all of them, daytime and primetime), but the writers usually aren't able to grasp the nuances for these "foreign" characters. That said, I wouldn't give a flying fig about some iconic left-sided curly-que either.

I don't think ATWT breaking up Jake and Vicky would have played any better with the AW audience. ATWT should've just created a new character for Eplin and played that. I know as an ATWT viewer I never really cared about Jake no matter how hard they shoved him down our throat.

I for one hated that they kept dragging Cass' butt over. I think the last time I saw him, he was blackmailing Carly and defending Iris. Or maybe that's just when I declared him dead to me.

Originally, I think calling ATWT, AW and Guiding Light "sister shows" just referenced them being created by Phillips. Maybe there was some implied cache about linking them in the viewers minds. After Phillips' firing, it became more about them being sponsored by P&G.

I guess I didn't realize that Brandon's ashes were spread like Alan's. (yes, less spectacularly, but still...)

Most likely. That's what all soaps do. There was a particular slanted window treatment ATWT used for thirty years. I always recognized it from the old Montgomery and Associates set.

Yes, the carriage house was on the grounds of the Wexler estate. I think Ben and Eve got to live there while employed by Lucille. Then Carrie and Ross moved there. No, the Spaulding mansion was a separate entity that would've come before the Wexler set. I'm not sure if any other characters bought it after Amanda left.

Thanks! Rebecca Hollen did return for HB's funeral in '97. And I think another of Josh and Reva's weddings.

That I'm not sure of. But Ben lived there before Carrie and Ross. It was hideously decorated with wood every where.

Right? I can't really think of one that survived longer.

I was going to say---that's not Blake and Ross' carriage house. It may be some carriage house, but not Ross and Blake's. Their set had been used since the early 80's in various forms.

Soapsuds---did Pat Kingsley die in that explosion? Was that Rebecca Hollen's last appearance on ATWT?

@blueberrywaffle 1st video seems to be April 93, with Holden and Lily running through Italy. 2nd video 8/10/93---The date the Miss Teen USA competition aired, per the commerical 3rd video with Royce's trial is mid-late September 93. Sonia Satra debuted on GL on 9/14, the CMA awards aired on Wednesday 9/29. 4th video seems to be between vids 2 and 3. It's before Royce's trial. As it ends with Andy getting caught up in the car explosion (which some better researcher should be able to date) I would guess it aired as the customary Labor Day cliffhanger.

The odd thing is, if you had not told me these were GL sets, I wouldn't have recognized a one of them. It's bizarre. But I clearly remember Ross' Carriage House, Reva Bend, the Bauer kitchen, the Spaulding mansion, Company and The Towers. Even the Springfield Country Club. The third one on the top might be gothic enough to be Quentin's Thornway Rd house, but that's the only real guess I could make.

I was always amazed that KMH hung on to the role as long as she did. While she captured Susan's neurotic tendencies, I always found her to be much too cold, to the point of reptilian.

Thanks! I agree---that church is awfully charming.

It is startling to see all these extras after years of seeing a bare minimum. I was watching a GL episode from the early eighties, and there were like five people stepping off the elevator with the two contract actors. Like WTF?

Hold on to Love is my clear winner. And I like the one with Nola/Vanessa in the opening. I would KILL to see the episode of Billy dumping Vanessa on that couch. I do like the visuals of the '70's ones with the stripey lighthouse. Question: someone must know where Guiding Light shot their outdoor scenes in the early '80's. Specifically for Nola and Quint's wedding, and Reva's walk after the non-wedding to Kyle (which, honestly, I just rewatched and is lowkey hilarious in retrospect. I didn't even remember that was when Josh returned, but knew it the moment I caught sight of Josh's leather jacket. Robert Newman must've worn that thing forEVER.)

I'm not sure it really counts, but Billy vs. Roger on GL felt like it. Roger was always got under people's skins. Especially Ross and Ed. He always knew exactly what buttons to push. And it's not that he didn't get under Billy's skin, but Billy wasn't going to be whupped. Billy nearly killing him on the docks really put some fear into ol' RogerDodger.